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Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:07 am

Looks like that little incident in Vermont where a mother and child were kicked off a plane for having a little snack has sparked nationwide protests.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/...p_on_re_us/breast_feeding_protests

"About 25 women turned out for the "nurse-in" at the airport, parking themselves near a ticket counter in a peaceful — but not-so-quiet — demonstration. Similar protests were held at airports in Boston; Columbus, Ohio; Nashville, Tenn.; Harrisburg, Pa.; Hartford, Conn.; Albuquerque, N.M.; and Louisville, Ky.

Some of the women carried signs that read, "Don't be lactose intolerant" and "Breasts — Not just for selling cars anymore."


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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:29 am

Give me a break! One grossly misinformed/insensitive flight attendant does not represent the entire company. This is being blown way out of proportion. This is one incident. It would be different if it was a series of incidents.

For the record-- I am all for breast feeding. What's the big deal with the breast!

On one of my flights years ago, a mother fell asleep while breast feeding. Her breast hanging out. Worse part she was in an aisle seat with her breast hanging out in the aisle. I gingerly reached for the baby blanket and covered her up.
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:32 am

I say arrest all of them.. put them in the slammer.. I mean, if I were the FA.. I would have told the lady to cover up while breast feeding also.. call me insensitive or sexist or whatever.. I couldn't give a flying @#$#.
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:36 am

Quoting Jafa (Reply 1):
I gingerly reached for the baby blanket and covered her up.

A slight turbulence buffet.....and you go from a concerned gentleman trying to protect her dignity to an oversexed male pervert trying to sneake a glimpse... Smile
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:03 am

The media in the U.S. continually feeds violence to the viewing masses. Every other show on cable tv these days is about violent crime. It is then perpetuated further on CNN and Fox (Nancy and Gretta) and Court TV. Meanwhile a young woman sitting in the back of a regional jet (at a window seat, mind you) on a late evening flight is harrassed by a puritan flight attendant about exposing her breast while she nurses her toddler. Our culture is so backward. The human body cannot be shown on national television (or even in public), but violent crime such as murder, rape, kidnapping, has become perfectly acceptable for public broadcasting in mainstream America....sad!
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:38 am

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 4):
Our culture is so backward. The human body cannot be shown on national television (or even in public)

Once again someone condemns an entire country for the acts of a single person.
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:28 am

Has anyone not seen that Freedom Airlines has suspended the flight attendant that caused the ruckus and has launched a full investigation into the matter?

Of course not, because doing the appropriate thing doesn't warrant any media attention of something that gave the media a story.

I guess thats why we only hear about car bombs in Baghdad and not about all the thankful citizens who can vote without fear and not live under oppression.



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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:53 pm

First of all, in my flying time I too handed many a blanket to a woman that was nursing her child. When I was doing so I ALWAYS asked her if she would like the blanket. What I have not heard is whether or not this F/A did this or if she handed the blanket to the woman and "ordered" her to cover up. Does anyone know the FACTS about this? Secondly, as a mom that nursed her own child, I would have felt uncomfortable doing this in public without covering myself. Yes, yes, yes, nursing is a most natural act, after all God (or whatever you believe) gave women breasts to feed their young. I am just stating my own position here-not one that must be believed by all.

Lastly, just to set the record straight. The flight was a Freedom Air flight, not Delta as has been stated in the news. Freedom Air is a Delta connection carrier but is not owned in anyway by Delta-in the sense that Comair is. Delta owns no part of Freedom Air in any way.
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:57 am

Call me old fashioned...and at age 50, I probably am. But the idea of a woman exposing her breast in public for a child to nurse just seems wrong. I'm not here to debate the issues of whether it's healthier to nurse or bottle feed but perhaps using a little "common sense" could be used. There is more than one way to feed a child natural mothers milk.

I have friends who regularly "express" themselves in order to be prepared in the event their child needs to be fed in a public place. I find that to be very considerate of those around the mother and child. I also believe it to be more dignified and proper public behavior. If perhaps we were living in an uncivilized third or fourth world country, then perhaps letting "it all hang out" at any time might be appropriate.

As for being seated on a plane next to a woman who decides to breast feed her child in flight, I would not feel comfortable with that mainly because I wasn't raised to take that as something acceptable in public.

Bottom line to me...plan in ADVANCE as to how you are going to feed your child and if you're flying today, you better plan for the unexpected.
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting StarCityFlyr (Reply 8):
There is more than one way to feed a child natural mothers milk.

The child was not being fed "just because it was hungry." The child was encouraged to suckle because flying is hard on babies, as they do not possess the ability to equalize the pressure in their ears. Sucking helps pop the ears, keeping you from having a baby screaming beside you. What do you prefer, screaming baby or nursing mother?

Quoting StarCityFlyr (Reply 8):
As for being seated on a plane next to a woman who decides to breast feed her child in flight, I would not feel comfortable with that mainly because I wasn't raised to take that as something acceptable in public.

That is all fine and dandy, but it has been proven in court that it is perfectly acceptable for a mother to do so if she wishes. Sorry you would not feel comfortable. How about exchange seats? Being that this woman had her husband sitting next to her on the aisle, there was no need for anyone to feel uncomfortable.

Quoting StarCityFlyr (Reply 8):
plan in ADVANCE as to how you are going to feed your child and if you're flying today, you better plan for the unexpected.

Ironically enough, the airline said that she was in the perfect right to do what she did and should not have been removed from the flight. So she was prepared, in advance. And since the FA has been suspended, I think we've found who was right and wrong in the situation.



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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:17 am

I don't get it.. it's a boob. We've all seen them before. Some of the portlier men here even have their own. I would rather see a woman breast feed than some fat slob doing cannonballs into the hotel pool.

I mean seriously how the hell can you get offended by something you have yourself??? Man is society f'ed up or what? We'll show wars live, but get offended if someone pops out a tit to feed a kid...

You know where I grew up (look at the flag) I can't count how many times I saw breasts. Intentionally or accidentally in 'surf mishaps'. Maybe it's because I've actually seen more than one pair of breasts in my life I'm not shocked by them anymore... I don't know..
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 6):
I guess thats why we only hear about car bombs in Baghdad and not about all the thankful citizens who can vote without fear and not live under oppression.

it's getting offtopic here and I don't want to start an argument, but I just have to object on that one... after reading several journalist's reports from Baghdad this year, it certainly seems to me that NO ONE can do ANYTHING in Baghdad without fear these days.... and I guess quite a lot of people would have chosen oppression if they had known that the alternative is civil war... so I doubt you'd find too many "thankful citizens" nowadays... (it was probably different just after Saddam was overthrown)
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:02 am

Quoting StarCityFlyr (Reply 8):
If perhaps we were living in an uncivilized third or fourth world country, then perhaps letting "it all hang out" at any time might be appropriate.

You would call the Scandinavian, or almost any European country uncivilized or third world? If you go to almost any public beach in Europe, you will see topless women. And...that is just great!!! I have been at internal corporate outdoor events, where the ladies might go swimming topless, they have come to a sauna together with men naked, I have been to homes of people whom I barely know - and a lady might iron her shirt...yes...topless. Oh yes, none of these was in the US. What's wrong with you/us???
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting Skyhawk (Reply 7):
Secondly, as a mom that nursed her own child, I would have felt uncomfortable doing this in public without covering myself

You might want to check your profile...  Wink

Quoting StarCityFlyr (Reply 8):
As for being seated on a plane next to a woman who decides to breast feed her child in flight, I would not feel comfortable with that mainly because I wasn't raised to take that as something acceptable in public.

Her husband was sitting next to her. Nobody has ever suggested that a woman who breast-feeds her child should sit next to someone who would be uncomfortable, much less someone that they don't know! I'm sure a woman in this situation would NOT want to be sitting next to a man (other than her husband)
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:39 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 2):
I couldn't give a flying @#$#.

Unfortunately for the rest of society, most insensitive sexists don't give a flying @#$#. I'm much more likely to tolerate a breast feeding woman, or even a misinformed flight attendant, than I am blowhard ass. But, you don't care, do you.

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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:48 am

If any passenger is doing something that makes other passengers uncomfortable, they should be asked to make reasonable changes to their behavior. It sounds like the fa made a reasonable request to have the woman use a blanket. The refusal and forcing their removal is just grandstanding on the part of the woman and her husband.

Some people still have to learn that when you travel with other people, you also travel with their customs, prejudices and cultures. Sometimes you need to modify your behavior in order to get along.
 
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RE: Nurse-ins Continue At Airports Around The Country

Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:36 am

Akelley728-Many times I have stated that when I filled out the bio I made a mistake. Obviously if I nursed a child then I am not a male so don't get so upset, I simply made a mistake.