CALMSP
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CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:10 am

Looks like we are cutting PSP service starting May 2. Obviously seems like a reduction due to the COEX deal.
 
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:09 am

Maybe the year-round route is going seasonal? Palm Springs is a big winter market.

Lot's of cuts on Continental from Houston lately...Flores, Punta Cana, Hartford, and now Palm Springs.

[Edited 2006-11-22 18:10:12]
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CALMSP
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:16 am

BDL comes back starting in May. But nothing in the books for PSP at the moment. maybe we will revert back to our old seasonal service of 737-500s during the winter months???............
 
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Lot's of cuts on Continental from Houston lately...Flores, Punta Cana, Hartford, and now Palm Springs.

Gee I wonder why??? Can't wait to see those lovely CRJ2's.....ick.
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:26 am

PSP is truely a seasonal destination. I can see CO restarting winter service with a 737.

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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:30 am

No CLE-SRQ or DAB this winter either.
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:44 pm

Good in a way...now maybe we won't get the flight diverted to TUS anymore....happened too many times!! lol
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting AS739X (Reply 4):
PSP is truely a seasonal destination.

Actually its becoming more and more of a year-round travel market particularly as the local population continues to grow as a result of the LA metro area shifting eastwards.

The Coachella Valley area which includes Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Ranch Mirage has seen near 6% annual population growth rates, plus add in folks from communities such as Moreno Valley, Redlands, Banning which might find using PSP more convenient then heading West to ONT.

More and more airlines are realising this and are offering ever growing year-round flights to the area. PSP as a result continues to experience strong growth in volumes which has grown at 7.6% so far this year, the fastest of any SoCal airport.


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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:10 am

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 5):
No CLE-SRQ or DAB this winter either

CLE-SRQ is bookable on continental.com. It starts in late Dec ends early Jan and then restarts Feb 15th, same as last year.
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briguy1974
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:43 am

Is CO having aircraft availability issues or are they cleaning house on unprofitable routes? I keep waiting to hear about issues facing CO when express jet planes start leaving....
 
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:52 am

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 8):
CLE-SRQ is bookable on continental.com. It starts in late Dec ends early Jan and then restarts Feb 15th, same as last year.

You are right!...They must of put it in the schedule not too long ago.
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CALMSP
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:56 am

yes, we will be having a little shortage of airplanes to fly these routes. its going to be interesting once these planes leave how we will continue serving each city with the same number of flights we offer today>
 
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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:35 am

This will be very interesting for PSP. As another a.netter already stated, the pax traffic there is very healthy, up nearly 8% from what was a record year in 2005. All indications are that the airport will serve about 1,525,000 passengers this year, more than 100K above last year. I do know that profits on the route were not consistent, but that it was showing marked improvement. When I last heard (about 4mos ago), CO management was solidly behind the route. With the loss of several dozen aircraft, however, PSP may have been one of those unfortunate low-hanging fruit routes.

PSP may, in fact, revert to being a seasonal mainline route for CO. That's the way it began back in the late 90s. The XRJ was the aircraft that made year-round PSP-IAH possible, otherwise, it would have continued as seasonal if operated by mainline equipment.

This will only mean more business for AA, since it operated 2x daily PSP-DFW during the summer for the first time ever this year, and the load factor was in the upper 80s throughout, with a doubling of capacity. AA's next step for PSP is likely to be a year-round ORD flight.

I would hate to see CO leave PSP, or reduce to seasonal service, because I put in a lot of time and effort into getting it into place, especially the year-round upgrade. But it may be inevitable, given the current circumstances concerning the fleet in 2007. It may not be the market as much as it is aircraft constraints. In summer 2005, the flight operated as a red-eye for the first time, because it was either that or nothing. This was the case once again for summer 2006. So the fleet is already spread pretty thin, and it's just going to get worse if no replacement carrier is selected for the ERJs soon to be lost.

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RE: CO Cutting IAH-PSP

Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:42 am

Blame Kellner and Smisek for trying to lowball Expressjet. They should've known that no one else has 50 seat aircraft with the range to serve PSP, BOI, and others. Expect to see more CO routes disappear soon.

[Edited 2006-11-27 17:43:27]

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