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Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:18 am

I was browsing through all the Delta flights, mainly the ones that used to be operated by Song, and I noticed that I didn't see any 199 seaters. When walking through RIC last night, I saw a Song painted aircraft, but when I got home I checked it out and noticed it was reconfigured. Are there any ex-song planes with the old interior still flying around?
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:21 am

As of a few weeks ago I saw quite a few all-coach 757s in the system.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:28 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 1):
As of a few weeks ago I saw quite a few all-coach 757s in the system.

That was a few weeks ago though. I had heard that most of the reconfiguring would go on during November.

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 2):
no

Source? What flights are they still used on? I didn't see any.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:32 am

I saw a list around the end of October that showed ~20-22 planes which had been converted back to F/Y seating.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:59 am

There was a thread in FlyerTalk that stated that the last of the Song 757s were pulled in for reconfiguration last week. So one should not encounter any all coach 757s from hereon. That's interiors... there are still plenty of Song liveries out there... presumably they will be painted when the needed or when DL changes its livery again, whichever comes first.

But according to those sources, usually quite reliable, the Song birds are all gone.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:10 am

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 5):
But according to those sources, usually quite reliable, the Song birds are all gone.

Thank you. That's what I thought.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:12 am

So they:

Added F?  checkmark 

Changed the seats to normal DL colors?

Left the PTV's?
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:15 am

Left the PTVs, just look for the 757s configured with 26 seats in F ...as far as I know all the SONGs are done. The PTVs are a godsend, let me tell you! just wish we would see them at our station!

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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 7):
Added F?

Yes.

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 7):
Changed the seats to normal DL colors?

Yes, the new leather interior that you already see on other aircraft.

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 7):
Left the PTV's?

Yes. 24 channels of live television, on-demand movies, a suite of games, and a huge music collection which is awesome. Moving map and trivia game are still there as well. Trivia game is free to coach pax. Delta radio is still there, but I doubt anyone will use that anymore. Everything is free in F.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:20 am

I got to fly a SONG aircraft once from SNA-ATL (it was subbed in). I had an EXCELLENT flight although the people holding F tickets were not too happy.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:02 am

Yes, all the Song interiors are done. There are some that haven't been repainted yet. The Panasonic PTV systems were left in place. All the 777 and 767 are being upgraded to this same system. I don't know if the 767 will have PTV in coach or not. I would guess yes.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:22 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 9):
Yes. 24 channels of live television, on-demand movies, a suite of games, and a huge music collection which is awesome. Moving map and trivia game are still there as well. Trivia game is free to coach pax. Delta radio is still there, but I doubt anyone will use that anymore. Everything is free in F.

And one important thing that many (including DL FAs) do not even know exist - the AC power supply (with regular plugs, no need for the special EmPower port) - I don't know if they are in the Y cabin but they are certainly there in the F seats, all the way at the bottom of the center armrest.

On the 763ERs (the refurbished ones with the AVOD PTVs), the outlet is available in BusinessElite, tucked all the way inside on the side of the center armrest console.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:31 am

Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 11):
Yes, all the Song interiors are done. There are some that haven't been repainted yet. The Panasonic PTV systems were left in place. All the 777 and 767 are being upgraded to this same system. I don't know if the 767 will have PTV in coach or not. I would guess yes.

Haven't heard anything new, but wasn't there a problem with AVOD on the 767-300s? I had heard there was a weight issue. Anyone know anything new?
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:21 am

Nope. PDX see's ex-Song 757's. When we flew PDX-OAK last Friday night, there was a Song 757 parked at PDX.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:30 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 14):
Nope. PDX see's ex-Song 757's. When we flew PDX-OAK last Friday night, there was a Song 757 parked at PDX.



Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 11):
Yes, all the Song interiors are done. There are some that haven't been repainted yet.



Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 13):
Haven't heard anything new, but wasn't there a problem with AVOD on the 767-300s? I had heard there was a weight issue. Anyone know anything new?

I heard they are just saying "screw it" and just forgetting about the PTV's on the 767300ERs all together.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:51 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 15):
I heard they are just saying "screw it" and just forgetting about the PTV's on the 767300ERs all together.

The domestic 767-300s are slated to get them, but at this current time the internationally-flown B763ERs are not. It's a weight issue, I've heard.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:13 am

Anyone know if any of the 737-800's have the Panasonic system yet? I noticed that the SLC-CLT service announcement mentioned TV, movies, games etc.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:25 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 9):
Everything is free in F.

Err, included in cost? (pre-paid)  Smile
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:42 am

Quoting Domokun (Reply 18):
Err, included in cost? (pre-paid)

Well, I guess you could say that. I mean, a F class ticket does cost more than a Y class ticket does, so yes, it is included in the cost.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:45 am

my grandpa flew one to california in september.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:14 am

I saw two Song 757s on the ramp at LAS on Tuesday night...I drove by them and laughed because I thought they were supposed to be converted already.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:41 am

Quoting SurferX (Reply 21):
I saw two Song 757s on the ramp at LAS on Tuesday night...I drove by them and laughed because I thought they were supposed to be converted already.

They ARE converted. Just not painted yet. Sheesh, how many times can this question come up in one thread?
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:35 am

^ That's what I meant...Calm yourself, bro...It's all good.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:55 pm

Quoting Panamair (Reply 12):
And one important thing that many (including DL FAs) do not even know exist - the AC power supply (with regular plugs, no need for the special EmPower port) - I don't know if they are in the Y cabin but they are certainly there in the F seats, all the way at the bottom of the center armrest.

If you look closely by the power jack there is also a USB port and Ethernet port for future use. I would assume iPod hooks into the PTV and Internet access if someone ever replaces the Boeing Connexxion system.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:03 pm

Just flew JFK-LAS-JFK in converted, but Song-painted planes in F. Very nice flights, excellent crews. When leaving from JFK, I think I saw five Song planes.

By the way, quite bumpy approach and landing at JFK in the evening after a storm. What a windy evening it was.
 
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:20 am

Does anyone now the timeframe as far as PTVs on the domestic 763s? I flew a 763 from ATL-MCO last month and its interior had seen better days.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:46 am

Quoting TLHFLA (Reply 25):
Does anyone now the timeframe as far as PTVs on the domestic 763s? I flew a 763 from ATL-MCO last month and its interior had seen better days.

I flew last summer on a domestic 767-300 on SJU-ATL, and it had the refurbished interior with the new fluorescent No Smoking/Fasten Seat Belt/Lavatory signs, and the leather seat covers. The analog dials for the IFE were replaced by buttons and an LED display with a similar layout to Delta's older 757s, but with a call button and reading light button. However, the aircraft still had the old projectors, which IMO need to be replaced.
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:30 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 11):
And one important thing that many (including DL FAs) do not even know exist - the AC power supply (with regular plugs, no need for the special EmPower port) - I don't know if they are in the Y cabin but they are certainly there in the F seats, all the way at the bottom of the center armrest.

No, unfortunately the power outlets are not available in coach.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 23):
If you look closely by the power jack there is also a USB port and Ethernet port for future use.

These ports are on all seats in F and Y.

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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:49 am

How many Song-painted planes are there left? And when will they be painted?
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:46 am

Can someone also tell us what the timeframe for PTV's are on the 738 as well as the 763?

Also, how many 763ERs have been converted to the leather seats?
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RE: Has DL Converted All The Song 757's?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:14 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 26):
However, the aircraft still had the old projectors, which IMO need to be replaced.

Was it the old 3 tube projectors or like the 763ERs I've flown back and forth to Manchester the last few weeks just the old casing with a single tube projecter inside of it?
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