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UAL In Europe

Tue Jul 11, 2000 8:51 am

Hello,

From what I was told, UAL used to fly 747-200s to Europe.

What routes did they fly?

UAL also flew 747-100s to CDG, LHR, FCO, MXP and FRA from IAD. The 741s to CDG, LHR and FRA were all replaced by 777s. FCO was dropped and MXP got a 767-300ER until April this year when a 777 was put on that route.

Does anyone know when the 777 replaced the 747s on these routes please?

Could anyone tell me when the MUC-IAD flight was started? Do they have any plan to switch to 777 on the route?

Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:18 am

United started operating 777's in Europe shortly after getting them from boeing. After that, they began to phase out the 747 in Europe. Now, the 747-400 flys to Europe. The only flight that I know about is ft UA954. SFO - LHR.
Hope that helps.
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RE: UAL In Europe

Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:37 am

I think I remembere seeing a -400 scheduled on one of the IAD-FRA services but don't know if it's still being used.
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RE: UAL In Europe

Tue Jul 11, 2000 11:53 am

UA flew 747-400 on the IAD-FRA route last summer but it is 777 now as LH increased frequencies. UA started flying 747-400 on ORD-FRA in April though.
I'm not sure when UA started to fly IAD-MUC, but I think it was 1997. There are NO PLANS to switch to 777 on that flight as it already IS oberated by 777.
 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:09 pm


There still is an UA flight operated by a B747-400 to FRankfurt. I saw it in May when I was there. I think it's used on the ORD-FRA-ORD route.

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RE: UAL In Europe

Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:15 pm

Alain,

When United received its first transatlantic routes they used a few modified 767-222's, along with a mixed bag of 747s...741s, 742s, and SPs. And by 1992 they started receiving 767-322ERs from Boeing which gradually became the standard bearer until the 777s come online. If you do a search UA even operated DC-10-30's to South America.... this was all before they had a dedicated Transatlantic-fleet.
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RE: UAL In Europe

Wed Jul 12, 2000 10:33 am

Hello,

Could you please tell me what they operated on ORD-CDG, IAD-CDG, the few-times-a-week SFO-CDG, and the closed-and-reopened LAX-CDG?

Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Wed Jul 12, 2000 11:24 am

UA currently operates 747-400's on LHR-SFO, LHR-ORD, and FRA-ORD. I remember in the early 90's a 747SP was run on the JFK-LHR route.
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RE: UAL In Europe

Wed Jul 12, 2000 6:14 pm

ORD-CDG: 763, IAD-CDG: 741 (both got 777s in July or Aug 95), SFO-CDG: 763 and LAX-CDG: 763. All UA's routes to CDG are now flown by 777s. UA has applied for JFK-CDG to start Apr01 with 763. The777Man
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RE: UAL In Europe

Wed Jul 12, 2000 11:33 pm

Just some additional info:
UA started daily ORD-DUS-ORD service in 1996/7 (?), soon after AA pulled out of the route, using a 763. Last year, departure time in DUS was shifted from noon to 1535h, so that LH passengers could make connections to the westbound flight.

Hope that helps!
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RE: UAL In Europe

Wed Jul 12, 2000 11:47 pm

United operated a 747-SP on the Newark-Heathrow route until it was replaced
with a 777 in 1995. Newark-Heathrow was one of the first transatlantic routes
to see 777's in United colors.

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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 12:14 am

Actually, the 777 was first used on a trans-Atlantic route. Remember the first route for the 777-200 was IAD-LHR?

Right now, it appears that United will be using their 777 fleet mostly on international flights, with the exception of the few two-class planes that are used on longer-range domestic flights (SFO/LAX-HNL).
 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 12:16 am

YEs, I said that the Newark-Heathrow route was one of the first. Not
THE FIRST to see 777 service.

United does use some 777's on domestic runs between hubs, such
as DEN to ORD and DEN to SFO.
 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 1:50 am

Actually, the inagural flight of the 777 was LHR-IAD.

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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 1:57 am

Why doesn't UAL add more transatlantic stuff...

IAD-FCO
IAD or JFK - TLV
ORD-MXP

i'm sure you all can name a few more...

Jim


 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 2:00 am

OK, read my post........EWR-LHR was ONE of the First. Not THE FIRST.
The IAD-LHR was the inaugural.

 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 2:13 am

Before you bite my head off, ContinentalEWR, look one post above yours--Ray Chuang's. I was responding to his "remember the first route...was IAD-LHR".

BTW--maybe you should read MY post...LHR-IAD was the inagural. NOT the other way around. (Isn't getting your head bit off fun, CoEWR?!)

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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 2:19 am

LHR-IAD was indeed the inaugrial revenue earning 777 flight.
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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 2:20 am

Sorry FLY 777 UAL, relax though. I wasn't "biting" your head off.

 
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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 2:28 am

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RE: UAL In Europe

Thu Jul 13, 2000 4:02 am

IAD-FCO was served until the 90s european cutdown resulted in the loss of this route as well as, to name a few (circa historical order): CDG-ATH, LHR-BER, LHR-MUC, LHR-HAM, CDG-GNV, IAD-MAD, IAD-ZRH.