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2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:20 am

http://www.planespotters.net/Airline...stan-International-Airlines#Photos

These 2 A321s are leased from Inter of Turkey , and reffering to Skyliner-aviation are in full PIA cs.
For how long time are they leased ? Only for Hadj time ?

More infos about them , would be very welcome.Thanks.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:36 am

It could be for Hajj charters but I doubt it, PIA usually leases widebodies for that purpose. It could be related with PIA ongoing problems with the EU regarding its maintenance practices. PIA has withdrawn certain widebody aircraft from serving the US and Europe. These A321s would probably replace widebodies currently plying the Middle East, freeing them up for European and US service. Just my guess, of course.  biggrin 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:25 am

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 1):
It could be for Hajj charters but I doubt it, PIA usually leases widebodies for that purpose. It could be related with PIA ongoing problems with the EU regarding its maintenance practices. PIA has withdrawn certain widebody aircraft from serving the US and Europe. These A321s would probably replace widebodies currently plying the Middle East, freeing them up for European and US service. Just my guess, of course.

Actually the widebodies will be back to Europe as the EASA is on the verge of approving the planes again...

Widebodies are still being flown to the Middle East (B777 and A310)....I think these A321's will be temporary.
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:29 am

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 1):
It could be for Hajj charters but I doubt it, PIA usually leases widebodies for that purpose. It could be related with PIA ongoing problems with the EU regarding its maintenance practices. PIA has withdrawn certain widebody aircraft from serving the US and Europe. These A321s would probably replace widebodies currently plying the Middle East, freeing them up for European and US service. Just my guess, of course.

Quite right Cloud4000.The A321 are indeed doing regional flights to the gulf.All KHI-DXB flights are atleast A321 right now i think.These planes certainly would not be used for Hajj,as you correctly mentioned PK needs widebodies for that.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:58 am

The current regs of them are:

TC-IEF (Ex: G-MIDH)
TC-IEH (Ex: JA103A)

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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:45 am

Anyone have photos of them?
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:00 pm

I'll check if I see them coming into DXB this weekend.
So the Luzair L1011 is no longer flying for PIA?
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:46 am

Fly-K

Great idea !!!!!!! Try to do your best to take pictures.Danke schon.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting Fly-K (Reply 6):
I'll check if I see them coming into DXB this weekend.
So the Luzair L1011 is no longer flying for PIA?

A321 are doing Dubai from Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and Peshawar. L1011 is flying daily Karachi-Peshawar.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 2):
I think these A321's will be temporary.

They could be in the fleet for a couple of years considering they have been painted in full PIA scheme(flag tail) and PIA did place a tender in papers seeking these types for two years.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:02 pm

Quoting EWS (Reply 4):
The current regs of them are:

TC-IEF (Ex: G-MIDH)
TC-IEH (Ex: JA103A)

Lew

I saw two PIA A321s at DXB this morning. One was TC-IEG! I didn't get the reg of the other one.

AeroTransport Data Bank says they are
TC-IEF c/n 968
TC-IEG c/n 974

Checking my shots from today, I have found one of TC-IEH - it's being operated by Air Blue, not PIA.

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[edited to add comment about Air Blue]

[Edited 2006-12-08 15:05:56]

[Edited 2006-12-08 15:30:00]
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:00 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
They could be in the fleet for a couple of years considering they have been painted in full PIA scheme(flag tail) and PIA did place a tender in papers seeking these types for two years.

IIRC..it depends on their leases too..they are subleased...belong to ILFC for BD, but are leased to another company until 2010, and being subleased by PK.....
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:56 pm

Here is a photo of the two aircraft at DXB: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=3385
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:01 am

Not really in full livery.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
L1011 is flying daily Karachi-Peshawar.

Can anyoine conform the exact flights and how long this is for? I still have a valid visa for Pakistan and could easily catch a ride on the L1011. Any info at all appreciated.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:58 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
Not really in full livery.

Not in the latest colored tails scheme per se, but they look to be in the full last colors (flag tail)...

Konstantin-are you still shooting slides on the side or completely digital?

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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:21 am

Nice picture showing the 2 PIA A321s in the flag livery. I just hope PIA will now repaint all the aircraft that are wearing those different tail livery designs back to the flag design.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:14 am

Are the planes white? It looks that way in the photo...
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:43 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 14):
Konstantin-are you still shooting slides on the side or completely digital?

It's all digital but I still have my Canon EOS30.

Quoting Vasu (Reply 16):
Are the planes white? It looks that way in the photo...

Yes the fuselage is all white...
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:47 am

Quoting Psimpson (Reply 15):
Nice picture showing the 2 PIA A321s in the flag livery. I just hope PIA will now repaint all the aircraft that are wearing those different tail livery designs back to the flag design.

Thankfully the flag tail is not happeninng, how you like such a pathetic scheme is beyond comprehension, the tails have livened up the image a tad and they look delightful when different ones are parked next to each other, we are happy.
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:26 pm

Here she finally is:

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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:26 pm

Imagine how much better these airplanes would have looked in PIA's 1980's scheme?


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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:10 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):
Can anyoine conform the exact flights and how long this is for? I still have a valid visa for Pakistan and could easily catch a ride on the L1011. Any info at all appreciated.

L1011 are doing domestic flights to/from Karachi to Peshawar, Quetta and Islamabad check schedules here for each city seprately for more accuracy http://www.piac.com.pk/schedule/display_abc.asp?date=9:00:38%20PM

[Edited 2006-12-20 17:17:39]
 
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RE: 2 A321s In PIA Cs

Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:11 pm

To complete the picture, here is Inter's 3rd A321 also serving in Pakistan this winter, with Airblue:

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