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Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:29 am

Hey all,

This afternoon Air Canada started loading the 777s into the availability displays. I didn't have a lot of time to check all the routes, but there are no surprises in what I did see. The -300's (code is 77W) are on YYZ-LHR, YVR-LHR, YYZ-NRT, YVR-NRT. The -200's (code is 77L) was on YYZ-HKG. I'm sure there are more, but that was what I immediately noticed. They start showing up around April (for the 77W) and more are added during the summer peak (eg: HKG) as more planes arrive.

I didn't notice any new routes or flights, but unless they get rid of the 340's at the same time they receive the 777's they will have a few extra aircraft to play with.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:39 am

Toronto - Tokyo is a long flight, I'd love to do it on a brand new 777, two amazing cities for sure.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:46 am

Thats pretty awesome its about time. We are still waiting for approval from Australia along with Canadian Government for the SYD-LAX routing. If thats the case it will be 77W. Can't wait to see what else the route will have.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):
Toronto - Tokyo is a long flight, I'd love to do it on a brand new 777, two amazing cities for sure

I do too. But considering they operated this route with a B767-300ER sometimes in the winter, I doubt it will immediately be replaced. But seeing the A340's currently on this route is also exciting!!!
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:55 am

Thanks for the info!

Anything on domestic flights ?

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):



Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Anything on domestic flights

I believe the first flights will be short hauls (YYZ-YUL) and then YYZ-YVR as the pilots/crew get used to the aircraft. The YYZ-YVR flight will likely use at least one 777 a day as part of the rotation. An morning arrival from Asia might become an late morning YVR-YYZ flight, and then continue to Europe. Conversely, an afternoon arrival from Europe into YYZ will turn to a mid-day YVR flight, and then an evening flight to Europe. I'd have to check the skeds to see what will actually be done.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:07 am

I've notice the AC FLT# 858 dep 22:50 on Wed May 16 shows B777-300ER, do you think AC will have lots of passengers on last flight out of Toronto to London LHR?

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):
Toronto - Tokyo is a long flight, I'd love to do it on a brand new 777, two amazing cities for sure

Yes they have it on the NRT-YYZ AC FLT# 002. showing only return portion on 77W. AC FLT# 001 is 343 for YYZ-NRT portion.

YYZ-FRA AC FLT# 872 77W
FRA-YYZ AC FLT# 873 77W

Sine YYZ-HKG will be done by 77L whats going to happen to A340-500? Are they be going out of service or keep them for awhile since they are still new although they tend to break down on mechanics?..
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:31 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 6):
Sine YYZ-HKG will be done by 77L whats going to happen to A340-500? Are they be going out of service or keep them for awhile since they are still new although they tend to break down on mechanics?..

YYZ-DEL?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:32 am

why on earth have AC not put a 777 on the Syd-Yvr route?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:33 am

just curious but if they replace the yyz-hkg flight with the 772, is that a downgrade in terms of number of seats? or is it just about equal? I would have imagined they would have used the 773 as the replacement of the 345, but oh well its a 777 replacing a 345, any way you look at it.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:39 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):
Toronto - Tokyo is a long flight

NH flies its 773ER to JFK & IAD from NRT which is longer than NRT-YYZ.
If traffic builds, YYZ-HKG could become 773ER too.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:41 am

Quoting Stealth777 (Reply 9):
just curious but if they replace the yyz-hkg flight with the 772, is that a downgrade in terms of number of seats? or is it just about equal? I would have imagined they would have used the 773 as the replacement of the 345, but oh well its a 777 replacing a 345, any way you look at it.

I don't think its a downgrade since the seats on B777 will be about the same or few more seats even though A340-500 is a bit longer than B777-200LR.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:42 am

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 8):
why on earth have AC not put a 777 on the Syd-Yvr route?

Quite frankly because AC does not like YVR even though most of the SYD traffic is for the ski areas in the winter they would rather have them go through YYZ, so this new YYZ-LAX-SYD flight i would assume would be on a 773 and the YVR-SYD will probably be a 772LR at first and then down grade to a 787 when they arrive, thats life out side the center of the universe.

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:55 am

Quoting Aircanada014 (Reply 2):
We are still waiting for approval from Australia along with Canadian Government for the SYD-LAX routing.

As of about 3-weeks ago no date had been set for negotiations to commence. Apparently the Australians are in no hurry to start talking about it and are dragging their feet.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:55 am

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 12):
Quite frankly because AC does not like YVR

Not true. AC has a bigger operation out of YVR (2nd only to YYZ) than its home base YUL. Daily flights to LHR, NRT, KIX, ICN, PEK, PVG, HKG, HNL-SYD.

[Edited 2006-11-29 03:00:54]
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:34 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 7):
YYZ-DEL?

Yes i would like to know if YYZ-DEL will become non-stop again and what A/C will be used on this route??
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:41 pm

Anybody know if the routings will be fully uploaded by Friday? I want to know if they'll be in the new downloadable timetables.

3.5 more months....  hyper  I am going to try and be on that first YYZ-YUL (or the return, whatever gets the first trip) proving run.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:56 pm

Quoting Stealth777 (Reply 9):
just curious but if they replace the yyz-hkg flight with the 772, is that a downgrade in terms of number of seats? or is it just about equal? I would have imagined they would have used the 773 as the replacement of the 345, but oh well its a 777 replacing a 345, any way you look at it.

The 772LR is roughly equal, and depending on configuration, can even fit more seats, than A345, so no real loss there.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 15):
Yes i would like to know if YYZ-DEL will become non-stop again and what A/C will be used on this route??

They could use A345 on it for a while, though eventually my guess is it would become a 772LR permanently.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:55 pm

spent 20 minutes looking for all the routes. Only Summer 2007 has been updated.....

Assuming the 777 will first arrive to replace the existing 340s, and the 787 will begin the expansion beyonds 767/330 replacement.


777-300ER
AC856 YYZ-LHR 02APR-04JUN X7
AC869 LHR-YYZ 03APR-05JUN X1

AC858 YYZ-LHR 02MAY-31MAY X2
AC858 YYZ-LHR 01JUN-29JUN D
AC857 LHR-YYZ 03MAY-31MAY X3
AC857 LHR-YYZ 01JUN-30JUN D

AC848 YYZ-LHR 31JUL-02SEP X7
AC848 YYZ-LHR 03SEP-30SEP X3
AC856 YYZ-LHR 01OCT- X7
AC857 LHR-YYZ 01AUG-02SEP X1
AC857 LHR-YYZ 04SEP-27SEP X4
AC857 LHR-YYZ 28SEP- X1

AC872 YYZ-FRA 31MAY-27JUN X123
AC872 YYZ-FRA 28JUN- D
AC873 FRA-YYZ 01JUN-28JUN X234
AC873 FRA-YYZ 29JUN- D

AC001 YYZ-NRT 01JUN- D
AC002 NRT-YYZ 02JUN- D

AC003 YVR-NRT 30JUN- D
AC004 NRT-YVR 01JUL- D



Configuration
Executive First:
Row1-11 (A-D-G-K) no 7A/7K

Economy:
Row18-22, 23-25, 30-43, 50-63 (3-3-3/ ABC-DEG-HJK)

weird that they skipped 26-29 and 44-49...

777-200LR

AC858 YYZ-LHR 30JUN-30JUL X7
AC857 LHR-YYZ 01JUL-31JUL X1

AC015 YYZ-HKG 01AUG- D
AC016 HKG-YYZ 02AUG- D

Configuration
Not loaded
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:11 pm

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 12):
Quite frankly because AC does not like YVR

Stick the bottom lip back in - AC operates on market principles, not hometown favouritism. Besides, AC is not a sentient being with likes or dislikes.

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 12):
thats life out side the center of the universe.

If Vancouver were anywhere close to the size of Toronto, then we'd see proportionately greater service. As it stands, we're doing OK out west.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:32 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 18):
777-300ER
AC856 YYZ-LHR 02APR-04JUN X7
AC869 LHR-YYZ 03APR-05JUN X1

AC858 YYZ-LHR 02MAY-31MAY X2
AC858 YYZ-LHR 01JUN-29JUN D
AC857 LHR-YYZ 03MAY-31MAY X3
AC857 LHR-YYZ 01JUN-30JUN D

AC848 YYZ-LHR 31JUL-02SEP X7
AC848 YYZ-LHR 03SEP-30SEP X3
AC856 YYZ-LHR 01OCT- X7
AC857 LHR-YYZ 01AUG-02SEP X1
AC857 LHR-YYZ 04SEP-27SEP X4
AC857 LHR-YYZ 28SEP- X1

AC872 YYZ-FRA 31MAY-27JUN X123
AC872 YYZ-FRA 28JUN- D
AC873 FRA-YYZ 01JUN-28JUN X234
AC873 FRA-YYZ 29JUN- D

AC001 YYZ-NRT 01JUN- D
AC002 NRT-YYZ 02JUN- D

AC003 YVR-NRT 30JUN- D
AC004 NRT-YVR 01JUL- D



Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 18):
AC858 YYZ-LHR 30JUN-30JUL X7
AC857 LHR-YYZ 01JUL-31JUL X1

Sorry, but I am a little confused by that. So, just to get it straight, AC will ultimately have 2x daily YYZ-LHR on the 777-300ER? It also seems that for a brief period, one of the 777-300ER flights becomes a 777-200LR flight. Am I right?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:46 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 20):
Sorry, but I am a little confused by that. So, just to get it straight, AC will ultimately have 2x daily YYZ-LHR on the 777-300ER? It also seems that for a brief period, one of the 777-300ER flights becomes a 777-200LR flight. Am I right?

2 daily 77W LHR-YYZ in May only

77W will dissapear from LHR-YYZ in July, replaced by 77L (shorter run training for preparing YYZ-HKG), then back to 6x weekly/daily 77W
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:22 pm

Hope we can see AC back in NGO soon. Maybe with some 767s or 787s.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:32 pm

Since there has been some updates since I posted this afternoon. Do you think that AC should use the 777LR on a non-stop YYZ-DEL and place the 773ER on the YYZ-HKG route? If CO can run the 200ER EWR-HKG, I am pretty sure the 300ER can make it without too much difficulties? Or does AC like to have the DEL flight go thru Europe (I think its still ZRH)?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:05 pm

I'm booked on AC856 on May 04/07. You've got me really excited! Once the seat maps are loaded, will I be able to change seats from the 333 to 77W?

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:40 pm

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 3):
I do too. But considering they operated this route with a B767-300ER sometimes in the winter, I doubt it will immediately be replaced. But seeing the A340's currently on this route is also exciting!!!

Wow!! I didn't know the 767-300ER could do Toronto-Tokyo!
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:47 pm

I think Air Canada is making a great leap in passenger comfort with launching all these 777 flights on its flagship routes to Tokyo, London and Hong Kong.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:08 pm

Quoting Cgagn (Reply 24):
I'm booked on AC856 on May 04/07. You've got me really excited! Once the seat maps are loaded, will I be able to change seats from the 333 to 77W?

Not sure, not all flights' loaded with 77L/77W has the seat map updated to 777.

Quoting JAL (Reply 25):

Wow!! I didn't know the 767-300ER could do Toronto-Tokyo!

It flies in the winter season
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:45 pm

Great to see it also in FRA Big grin
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:31 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 27):
It flies in the winter season

It used to fly in the winter season. Now YYZ-NRT is an A340 year round.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:28 am

Quoting Stealth777 (Reply 23):
Or does AC like to have the DEL flight go thru Europe (I think its still ZRH)?

Yes AC to DEL is via ZRH but i think they might change that once the new a/c's are inducted to the fleet-the 772LR and the 773ER.
AC has not announced anything for the YYZ-DEL non-stop yet.

Quoting Stealth777 (Reply 23):
If CO can run the 200ER EWR-HKG

CO does EWR-DEL on 200ER as well
So I guess it all depends on passenger traffic. More pax to DEL should warrant a 773ER but otherwise 772LR is fine. btw, how many seats do the 77W and 772LR differ in on the AC?
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:42 am

Great, i'm more looking forward to trying out the new 777s now Big grin


Thanks for the info  Smile


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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:19 am

I'm scheduled to fly LHR-YVR with AC on April 4th. It's stated as being an A330 but I'd much rather have a 777 - any chance it'll be changed as it is quite a flagship route for AC??
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:01 am

Mildly surprised that there is no YUL-CDG route on a 777. Cosidering this route is rumoured to be served by Air France with a 380 once they come on board, the demand must be there.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:18 am

Quoting Lawgman (Reply 33):
Mildly surprised that there is no YUL-CDG route on a 777. Cosidering this route is rumoured to be served by Air France with a 380 once they come on board, the demand must be there.

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:46 am

I would expect to see some sort of direct flight to DEL. Look at how well AI is doing and PIA has the LR on their route as well. I have heard that EK will be here next fall with the 773 so wouldn't it be a good idea for AC to establish themselves with the Canadian market before EK arrives? I think three weekly flight direct should do the trick... the rest through ZRH

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 12):

Quite frankly because AC does not like YVR

Good grief. Air Canada's operations at YVR are quite significant. The population of the Toronto area is around 5,202,000 as of 2004 versus 2,173,000 for the Vancouver area, 1,037,000 for the Calgary area, and 1,001,000 for the Edmonton area. So the combined populations of those three areas is still about a million less than Toronto's metro area. Air Canada is going to put aircraft where the demand is... they are a business. If you really want Vancouver to have similar operations to Toronto next year then you need to have about 3 million babies and/or immigrants in the next year.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:23 am

Thanks for the info on AC 777s. Would anyone at YYZ be able to advise on how we could solicit the 777s to fly to BDA for crew over water training?(AC has a daily YYZ-BDA with a A320)
A few carriers namely DL (MD11s) and USairways (A330s) used BDA for over water training as we are only 2hrs away from the coast.

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:42 am

Quoting Getdonnie (Reply 37):
Would anyone at YYZ be able to advise on how we could solicit the 777s to fly to BDA for crew over water training?

The overwater training, ie. ETOPS, is done in the classroom, the simulator, and on route specific routes ... so it is unlikely that the B777 will grace BDA. On the YYZ-BDA routing, life rafts are not required, (although HF radios are).

However, if it makes you feel any better, one of the new "overwater" routes for the EMB 190, is a second daily YYZ-BDA-YYZ, and a seasonal YUL-BDA-YUL. Also, the seasonal A320 YHZ-BDA-YHZ will be starting up shortly. So will get ample opportunity to view the Frosted Maple Leaf on Brokeback Blue.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:02 am

The reason why i am upset with the lack of YVR flights is that when CP was around (and dont get me wrong i always have prefered AC) we had service to some destinations that are no longer served even though AC has the rights to those destinations. There are many destinations that are served from other carriers that AC just wont serve, such as TPE on Eva, FRA on LH, AMS on KL and Manila on Phillipino as well as many american destinations that other airlines bring in nice equipement like DEN on UA. That is all, im not complain we dont get much consideration but it appears AC does not put enough effort into YVR they get some but not enough IMO.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:22 am

This might have been discussed somewhere else, but, have any indications been made as to what Air Canada will be doing with the A340 and A330 fleets once they receive the full complement of Boeing Airliners?

I would think there would be more than a few airlines lining up for the A330s.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:44 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 40):
have any indications been made as to what Air Canada will be doing with the A340 and A330 fleets once they receive the full complement of Boeing Airliners?

At least 3 343's will leave the fleet in 2007 (destined for LAN, Swiss).
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:41 am

I'm not too sure on Air Canada ops. I thought that their corporate base was YUL, but see none of the new B777 flights out of that airport at all in the above schedules. What use (if any) is YUL to the airline- is it a hub, focus city? Montreal is the second largest city in the country, if my geography serves me correctly.

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:52 am

Quoting Brucek (Reply 42):
is YUL to the airline- is it a hub, focus city?

YUL gets only 763 and 333 internationally. The 77L/77W service is first to replace 343 to that's why YUL didn't get anything yet.
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting Brucek (Reply 42):
What use (if any) is YUL to the airline- is it a hub, focus city? Montreal is the second largest city in the country, if my geography serves me correctly.

Although YUL is the location of the corporate HQ, AC essentially has two main hubs YYZ and YVR.
IIRC YUL despite being the second biggest city in population, ranks 4th among Canadian airports behind YYZ, YVR and YYC. Unfortunately not as big a market as one might expect from this great city.

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 44):
Although YUL is the location of the corporate HQ, AC essentially has two main hubs YYZ and YVR.
IIRC YUL despite being the second biggest city in population, ranks 4th among Canadian airports behind YYZ, YVR and YYC. Unfortunately not as big a market as one might expect from this great city.

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Has YYC actually surpassed YUL in passenger traffic? Last I checked it was still a bit behind it.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:25 am

Quoting EnviroTO (Reply 36):
If you really want Vancouver to have similar operations to Toronto next year then you need to have about 3 million babies

Are babies really high-yield passengers though...enough to warrant increased AC service?

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 39):
The reason why i am upset with the lack of YVR flights is that when CP was around...we had service to some destinations that are no longer served even though AC has the rights to those destinations. There are many destinations that are served from other carriers that AC just wont serve, such as TPE on Eva, FRA on LH, AMS on KL and Manila on Phillipino as well as many american destinations that other airlines bring in nice equipement like DEN on UA.

Au contraire mon frere...
AC will very happily serve any destination from any Canadian airport if: there is a high enough market demand, they have the fleet/facilities to service the route and the appropriate bilateral agreements are in place. I am on this site to learn about these and other topics, but I know enough to assume AC route planners would take as many profitable destinations as they could, but like the rest of us, are constrained by reality.
Also note that DEN & FRA are served by Star partners, which I assume fits into AC's business plan nicely.
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flyyul
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:48 am

During the winter season, Montreal has more departures and total seat capacity than YVR. The difference is the summer, YYZ-YVR explodes with capacity (from 13 freq to 20).

The B777 operations are based in Toronto. As AC receives more B777s you will could see them on more CDG or FRA-YUL/YYZ services.

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 44):
Although YUL is the location of the corporate HQ, AC essentially has two main hubs YYZ and YVR.
IIRC YUL despite being the second biggest city in population, ranks 4th among Canadian airports behind YYZ, YVR and YYC. Unfortunately not as big a market as one might expect from this great city.

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beechnut
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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:31 pm

I bet Montreal will be a major hub of 787 ops when those arrive though, as they're more of a direct replacement for the 767-300ER and A330-300 depending on version, and the 767 is the "right-sized" aircraft for most of AC's international destinations, apart from maybe CDG. Even there AC could continue to go with smaller aircraft like the 767/787 and put the focus on higher frequency, if slot capacity at CDG permits.

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RE: Air Canada 777's Now Loaded In Skeds

Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:33 am

Thanks for the info on YUL. Bruce.