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How Jetways Get Delivered

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:40 pm

Interesting photo, from the blogger Shouting Thomas:

http://shoutingthomas.typepad.com/ph...jersey_city/airlinetrucklarge.html
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:43 pm

Yeah, I remember when some of the old Atlanta terminal jetways were trucked up to Bangor and I believe Portland. They don' tseem to be that heavy look bulky and difficult to move on highways.
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:51 pm

Who pays for those? The airline or the airport?
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:02 pm

Quoting Hamster (Reply 2):
Who pays for those? The airline or the airport?

They are airport property. The airlines just rent the gates.
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:32 pm

I thought is some cases jetways may be owned by airlines, but in others circumstances they could be owned by the airport authority.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 3):
They are airport property. The airlines just rent the gates

Not true...here in fairbanks, AS owns two of the jetways attatched to the airport. We maintain them, and they are OUR own. The other two...if we use them, we pay the state to park on them.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:03 am

Airlines typically own the jetways. Here in Cleveland Delta owns and maintains them. If it breaks, a mech from CVG has to come up to fix it, not the city of Cleveland.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:21 am

I've seen several traveling across Kansas on I-70 on flatbeds. It is kind of out of place to see one go by.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:27 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 6):
Airlines typically own the jetways.

At MDT the airport owns the jetways. When the new terminal was built the new jetways where trucked down from Canada.

The jetways from the old terminal where sold to other airports. I believe Nashville both one or two.
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:55 am

Quoting BatonOps (Reply 8):
When the new terminal was built the new jetways where trucked down from Canada.

Hey those would be from Dew Bridge in Ottawa.

I thought in the US, most airport authorities owned the bridges and leased them to the airlines for their exclusive use?

At most airports in Canada, the airport authorities own the loading bridges and they're common-use, shared by everyone. Common-use is the way to go in order to maximize gate utilization.
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:58 am

Quoting YOW (Reply 9):
Hey those would be from Dew Bridge in Ottawa.

That is correct. They are from Dew Bridge. There are three on the each of the A and C concourses and four on the B concourse.

I'm not sure who made the jetways on the old terminal. Those to where owned by the airport and not the airline that used them.
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:12 am

How much does a jetway cost, anyway?
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 11):
How much does a jetway cost, anyway?

Jetways cost between $300k-$500k depending on what features are added on.
Here in MLB the airport authority owns all the jetbridges and leases them out.
These jetbridges were made in Utah and then trucked in on low profile flatbed trailers.

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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:23 am

I believe the Utah made jetbridges are manufactured by FMC in Ogden, UT.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 12):
depending on what features are added on.

What type of features are there? I didn't know that jetways could even vary that much...
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 14):
What type of features are there? I didn't know that jetways could even vary that much

Pre-conditioned air, fixed versus having a telescoping design, built-in ground power, etc.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:45 am

Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 12):
Jetways cost between $300k-$500k

Each???? I never would have imagined that.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:10 am

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 14):
What type of features are there? I didn't know that jetways could even vary that much...



Quoting N766UA (Reply 15):
Pre-conditioned air, fixed versus having a telescoping design, built-in ground power, etc.

N766UA pretty much covered it all although i would think length, material, (i.e semi-glass (CDG) or metal (standard)) and also cockpit design (digital, analog, etc.)
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 12):

Jetways cost between $300k-$500k depending on what features are added on.

I assume that is for a single door jetway.

How much for one of the dual door over wing jetways?

We'll be able to catch quite a few of these photos when T5 is commisioned.  Wink

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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:44 am

Yes, usually the airport owns the jetways and rents them to the airlines. But there are certain scenarios where airlines own the jetway's outright. Many times, this is to ensure that the airport can't turn "your gate" into a common use type shared by many airlines.

But, it can backfire. I know of one airport where TWA owned their jetways, but when they were acquired by AA, AA rejected the leases on them. Delta decided to "inherit" the gates since they were right beside Delta's gates and would help with the operation. Only problem was, an extinct company owned the jetways, so there was no legal way to acquire them. Then, when the jetways needed maintenance, the airport's stance was, "Not our jetways, not our problem", and the airline's stance was, "Well, who's problem is it, since we don't own them either(just using them).

It was eventually agreed and contracted by both Delta and the airport, that Delta would pay the airport an agreed sum if the airport provided needed maintenance on the jetways when called upon.

So, its usually safer just to let the airport rent the airlines the jetways, IMO.



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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:52 am

Jetways are not most peoples hi point, but let me share my long ago past.

When UAL began Jet service (DC-8) in 59-60, they elected to have Jetways in SFO. AAL and TWA did not. UAL equipped (their expense) one gate with 2 Jetways (front door, back door). I was one of 6 first trained to operate the Jetways - so I got a lot of overtime. They eventually had 2, or maybe 3 gates equipped with 2 Jetways each by the end of 1960.

We were actually licensed, and when a DC-8 landed, before I walked down the Jetway, I had to show my license to the Chief or Passenger Service on duty, or in his absence, the Chief of Ground Operations (I was a Passenger Agent).

Fun times. Wish I had kept my license when I left in mid 1960.

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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:07 am

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 4):
I thought is some cases jetways may be owned by airlines, but in others circumstances they could be owned by the airport authority.

I believe AA owns their(or some) jetways at BNA as well. We have one that is sitting in front of the observation area just collecting rust at the moment. It always seems to make it into one or two good pictures too!
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:31 am

Quoting YOW (Reply 9):
Hey those would be from Dew Bridge in Ottawa.



Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 13):
I believe the Utah made jetbridges are manufactured by FMC in Ogden, UT.

Is there a Winnipeg-based company that manufactures jetbridges and ships them by Antonov 124's on occaison?
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:03 pm

I remember reading that when DFW opened in 1973, Braniff moved their jetways from DAL to DFW almost overnight. can anyone confirm this?
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting N766UA (Reply 15):
Pre-conditioned air, fixed versus having a telescoping design, built-in ground power, etc.

Wow. What's a telescope design? Could you elaborate a bit?

Who knew that metal tunnel could have so much stuff in it.
 
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:34 pm

I saw one being moved between terminals in CDG -- in one of my trip reports you can see this photo of it:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/jasondaniels2000/JetwaybeingmovedCDG16Feb06.jpg
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:56 pm

For the new jetbridges at HNL, they were broken down into pieces and shipped over on open and regular containers.

Quoting ChewingPlastic (Reply 24):
What's a telescope design? Could you elaborate a bit?

Think of a telescoping antenna or tripod leg. 2 or more sections fit into one another and extend to create a longer piece or retract to become shorter. See the following picture as an example of a 2-section telescoping jetbridge:


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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:12 pm

A New Zealand company based in Wellington is one of the worlds few jet bridge builders and is the sole builder of A380 jetbridges. The company sends bridges all over the world. I've seen a few being transported on trucks to the Wellington container terminal. Some I've seen are so big that the truck needs pilot vehicles to keep traffic away from the truck. To turn into the container terminal the police are needed to close the road so it can take the turn into the terminal
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:42 pm

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 4):
I thought is some cases jetways may be owned by airlines, but in others circumstances they could be owned by the airport authority.

Both are the case here at STL.
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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:21 am

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 26):
See the following picture as an example of a 2-section telescoping jetbridge:

Why oh why don't we have more dual jetbridges in the USA? (Hint, LAX!)

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RE: How Jetways Get Delivered

Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:21 pm

these pictures just make you realize how big those things actually are.

interesting though....i would have guessed that they would be assembled at the airport where the proposed gate would be. cool though

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