flyguy595
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No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:17 am

How come they re did the entire aircraft for these routes but neglected to put in TV's for the long haul.

Is it also true that the lie flat beds aren't truly lie flat?
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:50 am

Quoting Flyguy595 (Thread starter):
How come they re did the entire aircraft for these routes but neglected to put in TV's for the long haul.

It was probably cheaper to give DVD players to the F and B customers than put PTVs in.
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:01 am

Quoting Flyguy595 (Thread starter):
Is it also true that the lie flat beds aren't truly lie flat?

The F seats are lie flat, but at an angle.
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:09 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 1):
It was probably cheaper to give DVD players to the F and B customers than put PTVs in.

Wonder how many of those DVD players go missing on each flight. Back in the SR days of handing them out on the MD11s for longhaul flights quite a substantial amount would vanish (1-2 on average per flight).
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:21 am

It's written on the DVD players and the actual DVDs that come with it that these aren't compatible with any other equipment. Meaning you can't steal a DVD and play it in your player at home and no regular DVD can be played in the players. The flights attendants are real good at keeping inventory and retrieving them at the end of the flight.
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:48 pm

Quoting Planecrazy2 (Reply 2):
The F seats are lie flat, but at an angle.

True, but the airplane flys in cruise at about 3-4 degrees ANU, so the seats are very close to flat than the angle of the seat would seem. They are very comfortable while enroute, IMHO.
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:04 pm

Quoting Sking11 (Reply 4):
It's written on the DVD players and the actual DVDs that come with it that these aren't compatible with any other equipment. Meaning you can't steal a DVD and play it in your player at home and no regular DVD can be played in the players.

Maybe it's because I've become overly cynical, but I wonder if that warning is actually backed up by technology? Personally, I hate to say it, but I would find that more of a challenge than a threat. I don't think I would walk off the aircraft with one, because that would just plain be wrong...but I certainly think I would try one of the DVDs that travels with me in the player and I would try one of their DVDs in my laptop, "just to check".

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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:13 pm

Quoting Tozairport (Reply 5):
True, but the airplane flys in cruise at about 3-4 degrees ANU, so the seats are very close to flat than the angle of the seat would seem. They are very comfortable while enroute, IMHO.

Do you prefer the First or Business seat?
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:01 pm

What's the point of stealing a DVD player on PS when you could just go out and get one yourself? If you could afford a PS ticket, then buying your own player would not be a big deal. Only a klepto or a cheapskate (who probably couldn't fly PS in the first place) would resort to such a tactic.
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:11 pm

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 8):
What's the point of stealing a DVD player on PS when you could just go out and get one yourself? If you could afford a PS ticket, then buying your own player would not be a big deal. Only a klepto or a cheapskate (who probably couldn't fly PS in the first place) would resort to such a tactic.

actually, way more bathrobes and towels get stolen from luxury hotels than from simple ones....
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:34 pm

Lincoln

The DVD player comes in a "portfolio" complete with the month's selection of (ten) movies. There is also the noise canceling headset. The pursor checks them out as they are handed to the passengers, and before arrival, checks them back in, so stealing would be nearly impossible, save maybe the DVDs themselves.

There is no PTV on ps because UA did it on the cheap during bankruptcy, when they retired the 762s. It was a brilliant move nevertheless because yields have increased substantially.
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 6):
Maybe it's because I've become overly cynical, but I wonder if that warning is actually backed up by technology? Personally, I hate to say it, but I would find that more of a challenge than a threat. I don't think I would walk off the aircraft with one, because that would just plain be wrong...but I certainly think I would try one of the DVDs that travels with me in the player and I would try one of their DVDs in my laptop, "just to check".

Yes, they are backed by technology. DVDs are regionalized (see this website for more information - http://www.hometheaterinfo.com/dvd3.htm). For example, US/Canada is Region 1 while China is Region 6. Airlines and cruise ships get region 8.

Normal DVD players are set for one particular region and cannot play discs from other regional discs. The DVD player's region and the disc region MUST match. However, there are DVD players out there you can buy which are multi-region; meaning they will play airplane DVDs. Although you aren't going to find these 'special' DVD players in a Best Buy or similar electronics store.

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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:55 am

With respect to Max999's post: I remember using a DVD-playing program on my computer, but I don't recall which it was (Windows Media player, or Realplayer, or something--I think it was on my mac...maybe it was some program I downloaded from the internet), but it allowed me to play any DVD from any region. Catch is that they give you only 8 times to watch a DVD from any region. After the 8th time, you have to select a region--and it's final. From then on, you must use the DVD corresponding to the region you selected. I wonder why this is so?
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:02 am

p.s. First uses the SQ SpaceBed seat, without the KrisWorld IFE, of course.
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:00 am

Quoting United777atGU (Reply 12):
From then on, you must use the DVD corresponding to the region you selected. I wonder why this is so?

I believe the part of the idea for regions was to prevent privacy. To make sure the system is airtight, they want to lock people into regions.
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:02 pm

Quoting Planecrazy2 (Reply 7):
Do you prefer the First or Business seat?

I personally have not travelled in the business seat, only the first seat. I have heard some say the first seat is a bit hard, but I have not found that to be the case.
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:04 pm

Does coach get the DVD's as well or can they purchase them? Do they still have the overhead monitors for viewing?
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:09 pm

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 1):
It was probably cheaper to give DVD players to the F and B customers than put PTVs in.

It is.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but PTV installations run somewhere in what, 3,000 smackers per seat? A decent handheld DVD player from Best Buy....like 450 bucks...... I see the economic savings already!
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:55 pm

Quoting Flyguy595 (Reply 16):
Does coach get the DVD's as well or can they purchase them? Do they still have the overhead monitors for viewing?

Video IFE in Economy remains the single-channel overhead CRTs.
 
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RE: No PTV's On United P.S.?

Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:24 pm

Quoting RiddlePilot215 (Reply 17):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but PTV installations run somewhere in what, 3,000 smackers per seat? A decent handheld DVD player from Best Buy....like 450 bucks...... I see the economic savings already!

$450? Which Best Buy are you shopping at? Those personal DVD players are topping out at around $150 these days. Not a bad way to make a virtue out of necessity by UA. They probably carry spares as well which is an advantage vs. a balky IFE unit at your particular seat.

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