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US Airways Envoy Class Upgrade Anytime Soon?

Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:46 pm

Just flew back from PHL to LGW on Sunday night and I have to say their Envoy class was the worst business class I ever experienced. The A330 cabin was dirty and seats uncomfortable. Having said that the crew were pleasant but meals just ok. Do Us Airways plan on re furbishing their seats and cabins?? I have to say that I will not fly them again until they do. It was more like Premium Economy than Business class.
 
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Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:53 pm

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Do Us Airways plan on re furbishing their seats and cabins??

No...they are going to let Delta do all the dirty work and then ATTEMPT (unsuccessfully) to take the credit.
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:20 am

Do you think this Delta/US thing will go ahead??? I would say Delta were far superior from my experience on both carriers.
 
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:38 am

I had the same experience with old/dirty seats etc. in Envoy, and it's totally unacceptable IMO.

I'm flying again in 3 weeks CLT-LGW, and if the conditions haven't improved, I won't be using them again. There are plenty of other choices for me, and they will have lost a customer because of it .... and if I choose another airline and start getting FF status, they'll lose my business on 4 domestics flights every week also.


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Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:43 am

Its an LCC and have pride in them. Rag Tag US East jets working so hard to get pax where they need to go.

Wait till US West can eventually improve the US East equipment sooner.
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:50 am

Quoting IH8B6 (Reply 1):
No...they are going to let Delta do all the dirty work and then ATTEMPT (unsuccessfully) to take the credit



Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Do you think this Delta/US thing will go ahead??? I would say Delta were far superior from my experience on both carriers.

Precisely why so many Delta people are up in arms over this US hostile bid. Delta has been engineering quite a significant and positive turnaround in its product offering in the last 12 months and now US wants to step in and live off the fruits of the DL's sacrifices/labor/work....
 
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:03 am

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 4):
Its an LCC and have pride in them.

LCC doesn't and shouldn't mean crappy/dirty/old aircraft.

Ever flown Jetblue?  Wink


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Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:13 am

Our A330's are quite nice...actually very nice. Perhaps it was a quick turn around and they didn't have time to clean it sufficiently. The 767's aren't as nice, but are getting overhauled this coming spring.

As for the food...well...it's a matter of opinion. Not everybody likes the same thing.  Wink I've flown First and Business class on a few different carriers and honestly I didn' think the food was great...it's airplane food! YUCK
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:21 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 7):
Our A330's are quite nice...actually very nice. Perhaps it was a quick turn around and they didn't have time to clean it sufficiently. The 767's aren't as nice, but are getting overhauled this coming spring.

It is US Airways, the airline eveyone loves to hate.

I think the 330s are nice birds as well, and generally US Airways as an airline isn't much different from other american carriers I have flown.


P.S. want to see an old dirty uncomfortable airplane, try AA 757s. I I fly AA very often BTW.
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:33 am

I think the A330's are nice A/C just not US Airways. The seats were dirty and the guy in front complained because his seat was bust. Also the wear and tear marks on the walls really looked bad. This was not normal wear and tear either. The carpet had loads of stains on it and to be honest I was shocked. It was horrible to see such lack of up keep on an international Business class product. I have flown all major airlines in both classes and this was by far the worst. The one thing I will say is that the IFE was top of the range and the crew were very nice. Just think if they got their act together on the cabin interior and food , what a great airline they could be!!!

I eat anything by the way and normally like my airline meals in Business class so Im not fussy but this was like chewing rubber. Im not anti US Airways im just shocked.
 
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
The A330 cabin was dirty and seats uncomfortable

I thought the A330 were the best thing US Airways having going for them, if they could get their domestic aircraft upto the same spec they'ed be a cracking good airline.

Perhpas I'm just used to roughing it  Wink
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:05 am

I really have to say I was so looking forward to trying a Star Carrier that I hadnt been on before and went onboard with neutrality so Im not bashing US , I was just shocked. Having said that my MIA to PHL in F class was very good and seats comfortable and crew nice. Only thing I didnt like was lack of catering as it was F and only pretzels and cookies.
 
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 7):
The 767's aren't as nice, but are getting overhauled this coming spring.

They are ??

Are the 757s getting overhauled with J class too?
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 7):
Our A330's are quite nice...actually very nice. Perhaps it was a quick turn around and they didn't have time to clean it sufficiently. The 767's aren't as nice, but are getting overhauled this coming spring.

As for the food...well...it's a matter of opinion. Not everybody likes the same thing. I've flown First and Business class on a few different carriers and honestly I didn' think the food was great...it's airplane food! YUCK

Boy, talk about a biased post. Instead of being neutral and saying 'yeah, the service and cabin do need some work', you turn the other way and choose not to see the rality of the situation.

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Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:20 am

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
The A330 cabin was dirty and seats uncomfortable



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 3):
I had the same experience with old/dirty seats etc.



Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
The seats were dirty and the guy in front complained because his seat was bust. Also the wear and tear marks on the walls really looked bad. This was not normal wear and tear either. The carpet had loads of stains on it and to be honest I was shocked. It was horrible to see such lack of up keep on an international Business class product.

...and then...

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 7):
Our A330's are quite nice...actually very nice.

Might be an idea not to call your customers liars  Wink

'Some' of the A330's might be nice, even 'very nice', but obviously not the one's we flew on!


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Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:52 am

Its amazing how when a smaller carrier wants to take over a larger carrier everyone seems to want to bad mouth the smaller one. Delta is an old legacy dinosaur with horrible losses. If HP/US with their business model are able to take over DL, then so be it. We live in a capitalist society, it is the nature of the beast. Now watch for the overzealous DL employees to purposely sabotage the merger (if it happens) just like the old National employees did to Pan Am years ago when they were taken over.

If the merger happens, DL employees need to accept it and work together with the HP/US group to create a successful airline. It would be for the benefit of all employee groups.
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:16 am

I have to say that as a European and therefore totally non biased about any US airline I really like UA. I fly them 4 times a year LHR to IAD or LHR to ORD and I have never been on a bad flight and find their Business class product brilliant and their A/C well maintained inside. I flew HP a few years ago in First and also thought they were a great little airline. So i dont think people always bad mouth the little boys. If the product was good on US then there wouldnt be a problem. I should have taken photos to prove my points but to be honest I was exhausted and just wanted to sleep. Even the pics on here in the photo engine didnt look like what I was sitting in !!!! Maybe they were taken a while ago.
 
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RE: US Airways Envoy Class Upgrade Anytime Soon?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:42 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 6):
Ever flown Jetblue?

Kept Slipping out of their seats  Smile
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RE: US Airways Envoy Class Upgrade Anytime Soon?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:14 am

Are they getting new Envoy for 2007 in the 767/757s? or not?

Are they going to hit BRU next summer with an all-coach 757? Wouldn't that be a bit odd?
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:19 am

I heard that from next year DUB is getting a two class 757 service. So I wonder what the seats will be like and if they will be upgraded for Envoy cabin.