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Delta At ORY

Wed Jul 12, 2000 12:40 am

I remember seeing a Delta 767 at ORY sometime in 1994. I assume that Delta was flying CDG as well because PanAM flew in there. Was the route into ORY not part of the route package aquired from PanAM? Was DL flying into both airports? What was the story with these routes?

I am very confused by this and any answer would be appreciated.

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RE: Delta At ORY

Wed Jul 12, 2000 12:55 am

Delta switched to CDG last year. All routes before this switch went into ORY. In 1986, I flew a Delta L-1011 from ATL to ORY.

The switch has facilitated the use of CDG as a SKYTEAM hub.
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RE: Delta At ORY

Wed Jul 12, 2000 2:16 am

Delta switched their services from Paris Orly (Sud) to Paris CDG-2 in 1996. The July 96 timetable shows Orly, but the September 96 timetable shows CDG as the airport.

I don't know why Delta didn't serve CDG as a result of the Pan Am buyout, but, if the UK is anything to go by, Delta may not have acquired the Pan Am France routes - they may have gone to United. After all, Delta had served Paris in its own right, six years before Pan Am went under. Service started April 1st 1985, from Atlanta to Paris.


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RE: Delta At ORY

Wed Jul 12, 2000 2:19 am

Delta operated all of its Paris flights (CVG, ATL, JFK) into Orly Airport until
1998, when the routes were transferred to Charles de Gaulle. The transfer
pre-dates Skyteam although Delta and Air France were already in a loose
alliance by the time the airports were switched.

American and Continental were the other two airlines that were operating
to ORY. Continental moved first, followed by American, in October 1999.
American actually resisted the move to CDG because it felt it would not
have adequate facilities to operate effectively there. Paris has been a
hugely profitable destination in Europe for American and the carrier was
probably concerned that it would be competing with United, Continental,
US Air, TWA, and Northwest from the same airport, albeit to different US

Orly Airport was thoroughly inadequate for long haul services. It was old,
cramped, and although close to central Paris, it was not able to offer the
type of connections are rail links available at Charles De Gaulle/Roissy.

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RE: Delta At ORY

Wed Jul 12, 2000 2:51 am


No, no... Delta moved together with Continental on 7 April 1997.
Thsi can't be 1996 as they reached an agreement in November 1996, and earlier they had no reason good enough to go to CDG.
1998 is much too later as a date. I think you made a mistake with the date when they had code-shares.

Best regards,
Alain Mengus

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