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Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:59 pm

Heard this a few times, but not sure why?
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:05 pm

The "MD" prefix is the same as a notorious and cheap American wine, labeled MD 20/20 but commonly known as "Mad Dog 20/20". It offers a mighty mean buzz for the money. It's wine for folks who like to keep the bottle in the paper bag while they drink it Big grin

If you attended college in The U.S., there's a very good chance that your first experience with drinking waaaay too much was with "Mad Dog" MD 20/20.

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:23 pm

Quoting Geotrash (Reply 1):
If you attended college in The U.S., there's a very good chance that your first experience with drinking waaaay too much was with "Mad Dog" MD 20/20.

try junior high.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:48 pm

I've always wondered who got the nickname first, the plane or:
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:51 pm

O.K. so by the same token, why are MD-11's called "Mighty Dogs".

Bigger bottle of 20/20?
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:50 pm

MD was a shortening of the name of the manufacture, McDonald-Douglas after the merger in the 1970's/early 1980's. Not long after the merger, they began to use the MD designation for their aircraft model designations. Probably the MD-80 series were the first where the MD term was used in public. Then some clever people at MD and elsewhere, perhaps inspired by the nickname for the MD 20-20 wine, began to use it in reference to the MD Aircraft.
As to the wine, I recall it back in my college days in the 1970's. The MD meant the first initials of the original producers company name of this wine, Morgan David Co.. The 20-20 means this is what we call in the USA a 'fortified' wine, that is cheap, nasty, low grade wine with additional wine brandy added to make the alcohol content 20%. It has been a popular choice of 'winos' or street alcoholics due to it's cheap price and kick for the price. Enough of it can make you a 'mad dog'.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:22 am

At AA, the MD-11's were referred to by some as the MD-911 because of the aircraft's propensity to break down and their need for MX help to get going again.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:23 am

Quoting Geotrash (Reply 1):
If you attended college in The U.S., there's a very good chance that your first experience with drinking waaaay too much was with "Mad Dog" MD 20/20.

When I was in college I used to see the bums down by the railroad yard drinking MD and other similar wines.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 2):
try junior high.

Most definately Jr. High. Other great staples of cheap "wine" are Boone's Farm, Thunderbird, Night Train, Brass Monkey, and my personal 9th grade favorite Purple Passion, which came in a plastic 2 liter pop (soda in STL) bottle.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:25 am

My friend's dad who works in AS operation calls the MD-80, Maintenace Delay 80 Minutues. They sure are glad to be getting rid of theirs.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:38 am

It looks like a hot dog with wings, handles like a dog, and climb like a mad dog chasing God knows what!

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:43 am

Perhaps it was a little more of a proper name than Long Beach Sewer Pipe...my personal favorite moniker.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:47 am

The MD-11 are referred to as Mega-Dogs by DL flight crews. I heard this at a coffee shop at CVG among DL cockpit crews.
I like the name...
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Dog for thats what the MD 11 is....a dog in performance, though not as a freighter.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:48 am

Quoting Ulfinator (Reply 8):
AS operation calls the MD-80, Maintenace Delay 80 Minutues. They sure are glad to be getting rid of theirs.

Amazing, then, that the aircraft have been so reliable for AA, DL and others. What is is about what Alaska does with/to these aircraft that has caused such difficulties?

Or is he just saying that they can fix anything at all that is broken on the aircraft in 80 minutes or less? That used to be the reputation.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:50 am

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 9):
It looks like a hot dog with wings

A hot dog with wings is that 747 that will transport 787 parts.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:57 am

Fallstaff,
Since the 744LCF, yes its true... but since you guys call sausages dogs... well, you know what I mean... *grin*

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:58 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
The MD meant the first initials of the original producers company name of this wine, Morgan David Co..

Good synopsis, but FWIW it's Mogen-David as opposed to Morgen David. See www.bumwine.com for more information. According to Bumwine, the one that really gets you demented is the fortified wine called Cisco, which used to have a slogan (that the FTC made them drop !!) of "Takes You By Surprise". The cited site could be considered to be very funny and is worth a look.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:03 am

I've heard the 747LCF is called the "Pickle" down at BFI.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:12 am

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 12):
Amazing, then, that the aircraft have been so reliable for AA, DL and others. What is is about what Alaska does with/to these aircraft that has caused such difficulties?

Its what they "didnt" do thats the problem...  duck 
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
MD was a shortening of the name of the manufacture, McDonald-Douglas after the merger

I take it you mean McDonnell-Douglas
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:41 am

MD=mad dog (MD-80)
DC=death cruiser (DC-10)
L-1011 (late 10 out of 11 times)

and so on....
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:59 am

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 15):
According to Bumwine, the one that really gets you demented is the fortified wine called Cisco, which used to have a slogan (that the FTC made them drop !!) of "Takes You By Surprise". The cited site could be considered to be very funny and is worth a look.

That is a good site, and that is true about Cisco (AKA Liquid Crack), but that's for a thread in Non-Av.

Mad Dog is a great nickname, but I've also heard DL folks refer to the MD-88s the Lawn Dart.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:43 am

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 4):
O.K. so by the same token, why are MD-11's called "Mighty Dogs".

Just hazarding a guess here, but there was a dog food in the USA by that name in the late 1980's/early 1990's...the MD-11 definitely climbed like a rocket!

If Airbus started using AB- as their model prefix (instead of just A), would be start calling Airbii "Atta Boy?" (this is yet another American dog food...)  spin   silly 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:47 am

While waiting in DEN back in the late 80s for my CO MD80 flight to LAX, I was talking to a CO F/O who was dead heading (his word not mine) back home to LA. He dropped a few more unflattering monikers for the "Mad Dog";

"Mega Death"
"Skidbuggy"

I rather got the impression that he and many of his colleagues at CO were not in love with this aircraft.

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:46 am

Ahhh, the sweet sound of jealousy. I love it!
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:15 am

Heard that MD80's are very thirsty or more precisely their engines. Did all MD80's have same brand of engine?
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:01 pm

Australia1, Yes, JT8D-200s....

MD80 = Mad Dogs
MD90 = Mega D*cks (thanks to the IAE engines) LOL

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting Australia1 (Reply 24):
Heard that MD80's are very thirsty or more precisely their engines. Did all MD80's have same brand of engine?

Yes the P&W JT8D-217/219

The DC-9 has the JT8D-7B/9A/11/15A,C

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:47 pm

I heard it was because the MD-80 is a "bitch" to fly.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:17 pm

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 22):
I rather got the impression that he and many of his colleagues at CO were not in love with this aircraft.

Interesting comments, I have heard both good and bad comments from pilots who flew MD-80s so I guess it just a matter of opinion. CO MD-81s were among the oldest built so they probably were not as nice as say a DL MD-88 built in the early 90's.

Quoting Australia1 (Reply 24):
Heard that MD80's are very thirsty or more
precisely their engines.

The MD-81 had the worst engine in terms of efficiency. The MD-82/83s had the better JT8D-217/219 engines, which is why they have stood the test of time.

Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 17):
Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 12):
Amazing, then, that the aircraft have been so reliable for AA, DL and others. What is is about what Alaska does with/to these aircraft that has caused such difficulties?

Its what they "didnt" do thats the problem...

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Quoting KELPkid (Reply 21):
the MD-11 definitely climbed like a rocket!

The MD-11 looks beautiful during its take-off climb.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:48 pm

Quoting Ulfinator (Reply 8):
My friend's dad who works in AS operation calls the MD-80, Maintenace Delay 80 Minutues.

 checkmark  I heard the same thing when I was working there. Its a good thing I never touched an MD! They kept me on the 737's.

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 12):
What is is about what Alaska does with/to these aircraft that has caused such difficulties?

It was very difficult for us to maintain when I was there, from what I have heard. It was a mechanics nightmare in terms of the aircraft itself was always breaking down.
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:20 am

I always thought it was a spotter's term for the MD-80 just like they call the 747 a Lump....or the 737 a Fat Albert....or DC9s are Diesel 9s.....or DC8s Diesel 8s.....Shorts 330s or 360s Sheds or Shortvans. I have heard the Metroliner referred to as the San Antonio Sewer Pipe or the Flying Pencil.
Of course I have my own cutesy name for the ATRs...the "French-Italian Death Machines"....
I have heard the Fairchild Hiller FH-227 referred to as WhistelPig (My website title) or the Whistling Trash Can or Thunder Turkey. Of course the Armstrong Whitworth Argosy was called the Whistling Wheelbarrow....
The Bristol Britannia was called the Whispering Giant....The DC3 was/is the Dak or the Gooney Bird.. The Trident was the Gripper....And so on....

I was always under the impression that the MadDog 80s were called that because they climbed like Mad Dogs......you have to admit that the MD-80 does have a phenominal climb rate.....

Just my 2.5 cents...

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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:24 am

If you've ever worked in the bins, your knees and back get a good work out. I hated them because the MD-88 sounds like a tin can soaring thru the air.
 
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RE: Why Are MD's Called Mad Dogs?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:42 am

Quoting EXMEMWIDGET (Reply 6):
At AA, the MD-11's were referred to by some as the MD-911 because of the aircraft's propensity to break down and their need for MX help to get going again.

It was also called the "SCUD" becasue you never knew where it was going to land.
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