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Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:27 am

I notice Delta still fly MD80 regularly service into Norfolk International Airport. I was wondering, are all Delta MD80's, the MD88 model or do they have other model of MD80?
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:29 am

The entire MD-80 fleet @ Delta consists of the MD-88. They never operated any of the earlier MD-80 versions.
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:30 am

All Delta MD80s are MD88s.......

The first handful of Delta MD88s were built as MD82s and then converted....the MD88 has a more advanced cockpit. Remember, DL also flies the MD90.
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:31 am

Well, they do have the MD-90's. Unless we arn't counting those as part of the family.
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:53 am

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 3):
Well, they do have the MD-90's. Unless we arn't counting those as part of the family.

Yeah, and I think they only have like 10 or so of them. I don't remember that fleet size being very large...
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:04 pm

Yep,all 88's . That's all we get in ROC from ATL since the 732's are retired. 3X a day! Sadly,that's the only M-D product we get here,unless you count the 717 (which I don't).
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:45 pm

Didn't the first two 82s not have the paddle-shaped tail cones on them. Then those 2 were converted? Don't u love the safety demo when the F/As announce that its an MD-88 jet service to wherever? So distinct, so different from saying MD-"80".....blah blah blah
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:48 pm

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 3):
Well, they do have the MD-90's. Unless we arn't counting those as part of the family.

Additional flight deck qualifications exist for the MD-90. DL operates 16 of them, mostly out of SLC since they are better equipped for high altitude departures compared to the MD-88s. These represent the last vestiges of McDonnell/Douglas at DL, which once upon a time was virtually an entirely Douglas aircraft fleet.
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:22 pm

Delta has 16 MD-90's, ironically, they operated the same number of Convair 880's, which was considered a major part of their fleet at the time.
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:34 pm

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 5):
Yep,all 88's . That's all we get in ROC from ATL since the 732's are retired. 3X a day! Sadly,that's the only M-D product we get here,unless you count the 717 (which I don't).

Count it, it was developed by MD. I still call it at times the MD-95. Big grin I know I am stuck in the past.
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:17 am

What are Delta's plans for the MD-90? Since DL has so few of them, will they be phased out in the very near future?
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 2):
The first handful of Delta MD88s were built as MD82s and then converted....

The first eight (N901-908DL) were delivered to DL as MD-82 between March and May 1987, and were converted to MD-88 between June and August 1988.

Quoting Milesrich (Reply 8):
they operated the same number of Convair 880's, which was considered a major part of their fleet at the time.

Yes, but DL fleets was of a much different size then.


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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting EXMEMWIDGET (Reply 10):
What are Delta's plans for the MD-90? Since DL has so few of them, will they be phased out in the very near future?

Probably not......my guess is that the MD90s will stay with DL since:

1. DL owns them. (Although they are likely subject to one financing agreement or another).
2. There is virtaully no second hand market for the MD90 due since so few were produced. (Resale value is very low......and werent some MD90s with very low cycles recently broken up due to the lack of interest by any airlines?)
3. They are actually very good airplanes and handle their missions very well - especially on routes out of SLC.

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 11):
The first eight (N901-908DL) were delivered to DL as MD-82 between March and May 1987, and were converted to MD-88 between June and August 1988.



Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 2):
The first handful of Delta MD88s were built as MD82s and then converted....the MD88 has a more advanced cockpit.

I never knew the exact number, thanks for pointing it out.

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 11):
Yes, but DL fleets was of a much different size then.

Good point, we forget how airline fleets of major carriers have grown......as you suggested, when the CV880 was in service, 16 frames was a good size fleet, now a fleet of MD90s is considered a small number and an ""inconvenience"".
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 12):
Resale value is very low......and werent some MD90s with very low cycles recently broken up due to the lack of interest by any airlines?

The Air Aruba birds that were going to go to the (failed) restart of Pro Air.
 
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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 12):
3. They are actually very good airplanes and handle their missions very well - especially on routes out of SLC.

I guess that depends on your point of view. Currently the MD-90 operates 34% of Delta's flights out of SLC but is responsible for 57% of the mechanical delays out of SLC. Yes it's a nice plane to fly on - very quiet and comfortable. But then again ANY plane is pretty quiet when it's sitting broken at the gate. I'll take the middle seat on a noisier yet better designed and vastly easier to maintain 738 any day. I'll get where I'm going in reasonable comfort.

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RE: Is Delta Fleet Of MD80 All 88 Model?

Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:59 am

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 5):
Sadly,that's the only M-D product we get here,unless you count the 717



Quoting Captaink (Reply 9):
I still call it at times the MD-95.

The B717 is just a rename of the MD95(after Boeing bought McD-D)...or an updated DC9-32 with much better engines and other upgrades.

Boeing could have used that designation on a newer design than blowing the 717 line on the MD95.....IMO

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