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PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:07 am

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LONDON (AFX) - US planemaker Boeing Co said it has won a 153 mln usd order for a 787 Dreamliner from Swiss business aviation group PrivatAir.
The two companies said the order would make Geneva-based PrivatAir the first commercial business aviation specialist to buy the 787.
PrivatAir will add the jet to its six-strong Boeing fleet, which comprises
a newly acquired 767, one 757, three Boeing Business Jets (BBJs) and one BBJ2.
The Swiss airline said it is evaluating the two engine options, General Electric Co''s GEnx and Rolls-Royce Group PLC''s Trent 1000.

http://www.euro2day.gr/articlesfna/25032786/
 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:10 am

So only 1.

Is this 1 from the UFO 787-9BBJ?
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:10 am

This is probably one of the BBJ orders.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:55 am

I would assume this would show as a 787 under the BBJ "airline" on Boeings Orders and Delivery page. Good to see the 787 spreading it wings into the commercial business aviation market.  Wink

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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:09 am

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 3):
I would assume this would show as a 787 under the BBJ "airline" on Boeings Orders and Delivery page. Good to see the 787 spreading it wings into the commercial business aviation market.

Well, Primaris had exactly this purpose in mind with their order. Wouldn't it be funny if PrivatAir wound up with a Primaris slot?
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:18 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
Wouldn't it be funny if PrivatAir wound up with a Primaris slot?

Oh the cruel irony...  Wink hehe
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:20 am

This is excellent news. Wonder where this aircraft will be used on the BBJ market
 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
Wouldn't it be funny if PrivatAir wound up with a Primaris slot?

Someone probably secured Primaris' slot for the -8 already I guess.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:27 am

It will be deployed as an Airbus corporate shuttle on the XFW-TLS route  Wink
 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:34 am

Maybe they´ll fly this A/C for LH , on routes like FRA-JFK  Smile
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:08 am

Wow, I wonder what kind of premium service they cold offer on the 787? Probably 75-100 seats of the type that SQ is now introducing on their 77W First Class seats or perhaps something more revolutionary and expensive?

I cold see them trying to charge $10,000 or more for a Transatlantic flight for one ofthose babies!!

BTW, these was a BBJ order. I would think the one that was posted on August 15.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:17 am

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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:05 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 9):
Maybe they´ll fly this A/C for LH , on routes like FRA-JFK

Well LH Technik recently presented a cabin for a BBJ based on the 787.
It is very likely that LH Technik will be responisble for building the cabin of this aircraft.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:09 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 12):
Well LH Technik recently presented a cabin for a BBJ based on the 787.
It is very likely that LH Technik will be responisble for building the cabin of this aircraft.

That does make a lot of sense!  checkmark 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting Article:
a 153 mln usd order for a 787 Dreamliner

Wow, that's a hefty price for a green aircraft...
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:35 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 14):
Wow, that's a hefty price for a green aircraft...

#1... That is list price, with interior and paint... green aircraft are much cheaper as they have no interior either.
#2... Even a 788 is a large aircraft. Can only imagine a BBJ 788. Wow...
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:35 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 14):
Wow, that's a hefty price for a green aircraft...

Well that's list...Doubtful they paid list but probably close to it since it's just for one airplane.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:50 am

How do we know that PrivatAir did not take that one or two of the B748i BBJ??
 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:44 am

Quoting Mptpa (Reply 17):
How do we know that PrivatAir did not take that one or two of the B748i BBJ??

We don't... and they might have. They have 737-700, -800, 757, 767, and now 787-9. Why not add a 747 and 777 to the mix?  Wink
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 10):
Wow, I wonder what kind of premium service they cold offer on the 787?

Here's a shot of a mock-up at NBAA 06

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/corey07850/P1010143.jpg
 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:12 am

Wow that is so cool. Will the real thing also have a clear transparent body so people could see in? Just kidding! Big grin It is impressive how they could turn it into a ultra luxury flying mansion!
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:58 pm

Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 8):
It will be deployed as an Airbus corporate shuttle on the XFW-TLS route

Oh, ouch!

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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:08 pm

What does everyone think this means for PrivatAir's overseer (LH)?
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:47 pm

DOn't forget the LX overseas!
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In my dreams, this PrivatAir 787 would fly in LX colors...
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:17 pm

Why is the Dreamliner PrivatAir livery in blue instead of the usual red?

 
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:34 pm

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 19):

is it me or does that look like a curved cinema next to the cockpit? 2 stacked decks of leather couches looking towards a screen?

then some showers, a library, dining room with butlers, lounge and a king size bed...?
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:00 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 22):
What does everyone think this means for PrivatAir's overseer (LH)?

Since when is LH the overseer of PrivatAir ???
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:09 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 26):
Since when is LH the overseer of PrivatAir ???

LH is both a major client and vendor (through Technik), right? So...
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 9):
Maybe they´ll fly this A/C for LH , on routes like FRA-JFK

Talked to an LH manager yesterday at EWR, where PrivateAir provides the equipment for DUS and MUC (A318 and BBJ). They expect to upgrade the aircraft for MUC sometime in the future, and I would guess they would eventually do that with this new order. That run has been very good for LH in terms of marketing and revenue using all biz class.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Congaboy (Reply 28):
where PrivateAir provides the equipment for DUS and MUC (A318 and BBJ).

I was not aware PrivatAir had the A318 in its fleet.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 29):
I was not aware PrivatAir had the A318 in its fleet.

Yea, they do ORD DUS with another Airbus as well.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:11 am

Quoting Congaboy (Reply 30):
Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 29):
I was not aware PrivatAir had the A318 in its fleet.

Yea, they do ORD DUS with another Airbus as well.

PrivatAir's Fleet List does not show an A318.....

http://www.privatair.com/private_charter/fleet.html
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 31):

Sorry, these are the A319LR's...
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 27):
LH is both a major client and vendor (through Technik), right? So...

PrivatAir is fully independent. Look, they also fly for KL, and the executive interiors of their aircraft aren't exclusively done by LHT, SR Technics also do them.
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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:26 pm

For the Record. I called this order wayyyy back when............
RE: Boeing Business Jets Launches Widebody VIP Airplan (by UA777222 Oct 18 2006 in Civil Aviation)

(Post 19)

..........and was completely blown off.

Regarldess, Congrats to PrivatAir and the BBJ programme. Is the BBJ production offices still going to be at Clay Lacy Aviation at BFI or will they finally be moved inhouse?

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RE: PrivatAir Orders 787

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:47 pm

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 25):
is it me or does that look like a curved cinema next to the cockpit? 2 stacked decks of leather couches looking towards a screen?

Yes, that's exactly what it looks like. It could be used either for entertainment or business presentations.

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