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787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:15 am

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/061206/boeing_carson.html?.v=1

787 on schedule and 2% more efficient than promised
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:17 am

The airplane is not yet in production and already it's beating it promised fuel consumption. One has to wonder what the pplane can actually do when it enters service in 18 months!!!
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:21 am

I think that they most likely tweeked up some other areas while working and adressing the weight issues , A bit of eff. from all areas probably made the difference in the end.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:23 am

Cheerleader suit on...

Are you really surprised??? When it comes to engineering that's the Boeing way. Wait till it's flying and the better than expected SFCs show up in a provable environment.

Love or hate Boeing their engineers ?almost? always deliver. The 777 was miles ahead of planning from a perf standpoint.

I expect at EIS the 787 will be 5-8% ahead of promises.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:28 am

Please keep in mind that Scott Carson said 2% better than what is promised to customers. What is promised to customers, as negotiated in their PAs in the form of performance guarantees, is normally not what is touted to the public. So by him saying that it is 2% better than what has been promised to customers doesn't necessarily mean that it is 2% better than the fuel burn that Marketing uses.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:31 am

Even if the 2% is true, the weight issue remains. Lowering fuel burn is great on the cost side, but an overweight aircraft means less payload and hence less revenue opportunity. I do not assume that the weight problem is solved, nor that any better-than-expected performance will nullify the problem if it is not solved.

This is good news, but I'll hold my applause until Boeing delivers what they promised. If it has lower fuel burn AND is as light as advertised...it'll be a grand slam.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:33 am

Well lately it seems the team over at Boeing has made a habit of going all the way and then some as far as meeting performance promises. And I think it's great, makes for overall better aircraft and it puts a smile on the customers faces.

However, I'm beginning to wonder if they will eventually get burned for producing a plane that does just what they said it would, and not what they said it would plus a bit. In other words what would their customers say if they met all promises and guarantees, but did not exceed them - like many are beginning to expect.



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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:35 am

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 6):
However, I'm beginning to wonder if they will eventually get burned for producing a plane that does just what they said it would, and not what they said it would plus a bit. In other words what would their customers say if they met all promises and guarantees, but did not exceed them - like many are beginning to expect.

Hey I still don't think the customerrs will be unhappy if a plane meets all its contractual guarantees. They've planned for it and I don't think they can or wouldd try to penalize Boeign for not exceeding them.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:42 am

...Speaking on a webcast at the Credit Suisse Aerospace and Defense Conference, Carson said Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner is on track to begin test flights next summer. The aircraft is still about 500 pounds too heavy, he said, with excess weight distributed throughout the aircraft. Carson said the fact that the 787 is made of new, lightweight composite material, rather than aluminum, will make it easier for engineers to reduce the total weight of the aircraft...

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20061206-708505.html
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:43 am

I guess we´ll see 787 in the air at Farnborough 2007

Ohh I forgot.... Boeing never fly their contraptions on air shows, why´s that?

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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:49 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 8):
The aircraft is still about 500 pounds too heavy

This is huge news. A few months ago the 787 was 2.5 tons over weight. Now they cut it by 2 tons. That's pretty significant. Hopefully it'll quiet a lot of doubters out there.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting Lokey123 (Reply 4):
Please keep in mind that Scott Carson said 2% better than what is promised to customers. What is promised to customers, as negotiated in their PAs in the form of performance guarantees, is normally not what is touted to the public. So by him saying that it is 2% better than what has been promised to customers doesn't necessarily mean that it is 2% better than the fuel burn that Marketing uses.

Even if this were true, that means 787 is only 1% below the internal target, assuming 3% wiggling room. With flight testing and tweeking I am sure that it will be at least right on the internal target.

On the second note, I take back my comment. Carson said that it is 2% better than promised not guaranteed. Just like 773ER, Boeing said that it is 3% better than promised, which does not mean it is on target. It meant that it was 3% above the target.

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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:04 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 9):
Ohh I forgot.... Boeing never fly their contraptions on air shows, why´s that?

Probably one of three reasons:

1. It isn't an insignificant expense to perform aerial demonstrations.

2. Boeing likely has no interest in seeing one of their commercial products crash in front of hundreds of spectators. Think about it, there have been notable air disasters involving aerial demonstrations.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19591019-0&lang=en
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880626-0&lang=en
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19730603-0&lang=en

3. Boeing likely doesn't feel the need to "one up" Airbus for their use of an A346 doing max climbs and bank rates.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:04 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 8):
The aircraft is still about 500 pounds too heavy, he said, with excess weight distributed throughout the aircraft

If so, they must have made major progress on weight reduction in the last few months, since the last figures I recall were in the 2,500-3,000 pound range. Great that things appear to be rolling along relatively smoothly...  crossfingers 

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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:06 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 9):
Ohh I forgot.... Boeing never fly their contraptions on air shows, why´s that?

Maybe because they don't believe in beta testing their FBW systems in large crowded public areas?

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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:10 am

pretty impressive if they've knocked off 2000lbs already and are going for the last 500lbs right now.

Also, Carson says at the very end of the article, that Airbus will be stronger than ever after they get their mess sorted out, and that BA better be ready to meet the challenge.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:18 am

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 15):
pretty impressive if they've knocked off 2000lbs already and are going for the last 500lbs right now.

Certainly is impressive. I wonder what is the R&D cost per pound of lost weight. I would imagine it gets higher as the total weight gets lower. At what point do they say that an extra 5 pounds isn't worth spending an extra $5 million?
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:21 am

Quoting AirFRNT (Reply 14):
Maybe because they don't believe in beta testing their FBW systems in large crowded public areas?

OUCH!!! Man that was low...

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 15):
Also, Carson says at the very end of the article, that Airbus will be stronger than ever after they get their mess sorted out, and that BA better be ready to meet the challenge.

Good attitude to take, even if it turns out not to be right.. just means Boeing will be tougher and shows they aren't falling into the complacency that nearly did them in not so long ago.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 11):
On the second note, I take back my comment. Carson said that it is 2% better than promised not guaranteed.

As a customer, a manufacturer's promise doesn't mean much unless it is in writing, ie a guarantee, so when he says promise to customers I infer guarantee. Of course i could be wrong but hey.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:32 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 9):
guess we´ll see 787 in the air at Farnborough 2007

Unlikely because:

There will be no Farnborough Airshow in 2007 as it is held in even numbered years, like 2006.

The Paris Airshow will be in June 2007 (held during odd years). Since the 787 first flight will be during August 2007, it won't make that show either.

Look for the 787 at the 2008 Farnborough Airshow. The airplane will fly into and out of the event.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:35 am

Quoting AirFRNT (Reply 14):
Maybe because they don't believe in beta testing their FBW systems in large crowded public areas?

Wait till some Aibus cheerleaders see that. I don't wanna be around when that happens..lol
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:37 am

More interesting comments from Carson:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16073977/

Fair Use:

Boeing officials have said since earlier this fall that they need to trim the 787's weight significantly from parts scattered throughout the entire plane, in some cases switching from aluminum to titanium, in order to meet its promises for greater fuel efficiency.

Carson, the unit's sales chief until September when Alan Mulally left to become CEO of Ford Motor Co., said the first six 787s, all test aircraft, will be above weight specifications. All the company's energies are focused on the seventh and a plan is in place to get the weight off, he said.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:40 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 10):
This is huge news. A few months ago the 787 was 2.5 tons over weight. Now they cut it by 2 tons. That's pretty significant. Hopefully it'll quiet a lot of doubters out there.

Big ditto on that. I'm a doubter, but I'll be very pleased to be quieted!

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 15):
pretty impressive if they've knocked off 2000lbs already and are going for the last 500lbs right now.

Double that! If true, they've knocked off 4000-4500lbs.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:01 am

Quoting AirFRNT (Reply 14):
Maybe because they don't believe in beta testing their FBW systems in large crowded public areas?



Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 20):
Wait till some Aibus cheerleaders see that. I don't wanna be around when that happens..lol

Nice to see that aircraft crashes amuse the "aviation enthusiasts"... cough... cough

Regarding the "2% more efficient than promised", is it because they gained back those 2.5 tonnes?
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:11 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1):
The airplane is not yet in production and already it's beating it promised fuel consumption. One has to wonder what the pplane can actually do when it enters service in 18 months!!!

You're being sarcastic isn't it?! Or else one could accuse you of massive cheerleading.  Wink
How can a paper plane beat it's promised fuel consumption, would you please enlighten me?

I'm sure the 787 will be a helluva plane, but please let the facts speak...
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting Jonathan-l (Reply 23):
Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 20):
Wait till some Aibus cheerleaders see that. I don't wanna be around when that happens..lol

Nice to see that aircraft crashes amuse the "aviation enthusiasts"... cough... cough

Why Exactly are you quoting me?
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting MBJ2000 (Reply 24):
You're being sarcastic isn't it?! Or else one could accuse you of massive cheerleading.
How can a paper plane beat it's promised fuel consumption, would you please enlighten me?

I'm sure the 787 will be a helluva plane, but please let the facts speak...

Where have you been?

1) It's not a paper airplane as part have been manufactured and will be shipped January 2nd from Japan. The paper plane you're referring to is the A350.

2) They've got the 787 designed and modelled down to support brackets. They can easily calculate the weight and combined that with the egngine test data from RR and GE to figure out the fuel efficiency of the aircraft. I wasn't being saracastic. Boeing has said that they're beating the fuel efficiency and they probably have a very good reason to put out such a claim at an investor conference.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:28 am

Quoting MBJ2000 (Reply 24):
How can a paper plane beat it's promised fuel consumption, would you please enlighten me?

Calling the 787-8 a "paper plane" is a misnomer.

The aircraft is well into development and many production-standard components have been built. The engines have been built and tested. Boeing has had additional time to perform aerodynamics and structural analysis, etc. Any of these factors could lead Boeing to find an incremental performance boost.

Besides, the entire point of a "paper airplane" is that it gives the sales team a blank check to go promise an aircraft that meets a customers specifications. To some extent, that's still the case with the A350. It certainly was the case at the time Airbus revealed the XWB.

It's impossible to market a "paper plane" once specifications have been frozen. With the 787-8, Boeing reached design freeze in September 2005. We're now 9 months away from roll-out, and the -8 is anything but a paper airplane.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:58 am

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 17):
Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 15):
Also, Carson says at the very end of the article, that Airbus will be stronger than ever after they get their mess sorted out, and that BA better be ready to meet the challenge.

Good attitude to take, even if it turns out not to be right.. just means Boeing will be tougher and shows they aren't falling into the complacency that nearly did them in not so long ago.

I couldn't agree more, Osiris. I doesn't matter if he's right or wrong...what matters is he is not underestimating the power of Airbus and the many, many skilled people they have. These types of comments only bode well for Boeing; after all, they should know.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:25 am

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 3):
Love or hate Boeing their engineers ?almost? always deliver.

Almost? Not trying to nitpick but when have they missed...

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 22):
Double that! If true, they've knocked off 4000-4500lbs.

Yes they were 2-2.5 TONS over target weight (they had already met the guarranteed customer weight). Thats 4000-5000lbs. 3500-4500lbs been knocked off. Its all gravy now!

Quoting Congaboy (Reply 28):
I couldn't agree more, Osiris. I doesn't matter if he's right or wrong...what matters is he is not underestimating the power of Airbus and the many, many skilled people they have. These types of comments only bode well for Boeing; after all, they should know.

 checkmark  This shows that Boeing learned from previous mistakes. They won't be underestimating Airbus again. I'm excited to see what they come up with for Y1 and Y3.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:33 am

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 29):
Almost? Not trying to nitpick but when have they missed...

There's a reason I wrapped in double ?s. I wasn't sure they had.. not from memory anyway.. but had I said never some idiot would have pulled some esoteric time when it happened.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 17):

OUCH!!! Man that was low...

I just wish some people would stop coming into every A350/380/787 discussion and start a trolling. My point is that just adding  stirthepot  doesn't excuse people making asinine posts, basically the A.net version of a troll and run.

I suppose part of it is my own fault. I shouldn't feed the troll. As a BA stockholder, I am happy with the current state of the 787 program. This is good news.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:46 am

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 31):
I just wish some people would stop coming into every A350/380/787 discussion and start a trolling. My point is that just adding doesn't excuse people making asinine posts, basically the A.net version of a troll and run.

I suppose part of it is my own fault. I shouldn't feed the troll. As a BA stockholder, I am happy with the current state of the 787 program. This is good news.

Why did you quote me? I wasn't the one who said it..
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:03 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 27):



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 26):

What part of my posting you didn't understand?
I'm asking again, how can a plane be better than expected before first flight?
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:18 am

Quoting MBJ2000 (Reply 33):
What part of my posting you didn't understand?
I'm asking again, how can a plane be better than expected before first flight?

Boeings initial numbers, just like any other airframe company, and the promises they make to customers are based on thousands of hours of simulation and wind tunnel testing. Those numbers are darn realistic.

When boeing, or any other company, changes a spec, decreases weight, increases thrust ect they can retest that information and it will either meet, beat or drop below the previous results.

There hasn't been a paper plane come out of boeing since before the 777. And it met every number/test that was run during simulation and wind tunnel testing. Then they increased the performance numbers. The same is happening with the 787...

I think it was you who was not understanding. To quote you "let the facts speak"... well the facts are that the 787 is meeting and beating the origional specs and numbers that were reached in the wind tunnel and simulated testings which happen to be EXTREAMLY accurate.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 9):
Ohh I forgot.... Boeing never fly their contraptions on air shows, why´s that?

You dropped your mini-tootsie roll pop on the way into the forum. Go pick it up, stick it in your mouth and try again little one.

Unlike some other aircraft manufacturers, Boeing actually delivers what they promise...on time....
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:28 am

Quoting MBJ2000 (Reply 33):
What part of my posting you didn't understand?
I'm asking again, how can a plane be better than expected before first flight?

Beech19 probably gave you a better explaination than I can. Please read what he posted. He would know as he's an engineer in the business.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:33 am

Quoting MBJ2000 (Reply 33):
What part of my posting you didn't understand?
I'm asking again, how can a plane be better than expected before first flight?

No, I answered your question. I'll again answer in the same manner:

When Boeing began marketing the 787-8, the engineering team estimated that fuel burn could be reduced 20% from A332. Now that the first 787-8 is being built, real-world structures and components are being fabricated.

As these components are built and tested, those initial estimates can be replaced with real-world data. Let's say that Ge/RR have found their engine is actually 2% over performance targets. That allows Boeing to refine their calculations and conclude that the 787 is ahead of initial promises given to airlines.

Just because the 787 hasn't flown doesn't mean performance estimates can be improved. It isn't unusual to find improvements or penalties at this point in the design process.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:35 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 36):
Beech19 probably gave you a better explaination than I can. Please read what he posted. He would know as he's an engineer in the business.

Um... thanks for the vote of confidence. Engineer no, 787 Manufacturer Technician, yes.
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:38 am

Quoting MBJ2000 (Reply 33):
I'm asking again, how can a plane be better than expected before first flight?

There are three factors that determine overall efficiency of an airliner:
a) propulsion efficiency,
b) aerodynamic efficiency, and
c) structural efficiency.

Boeing would know early about improvements the engine makers achieve in SFC relative to initial promises. Boeing would know the results of their wind tunnel testing. Boeing would know the weight. So, Boeing know everything they need to know in order to say that it will be better than earlier expected.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:51 pm

Boeing's 787 is still overweight, although not the 5,000 lb. disclosed a month ago (ATWOnline, Nov. 7), but the company is confident it will "meet all commitments on weight," 787 VP and GM Mike Bair said yesterday during a call with reporters. An example of significant savings is a redesigned seat track that will remove several hundred pounds, he said.

Bair also said the 787 will have 2%-3% lower cash operating costs than originally promised, largely owing to better-than-expected maintenance costs. "When we started, we were offering an airplane that had 8%-10% better operating economics than the 767 and to beat that by 30% is a pretty good outcome," he said. Maintenance costs will be 30% less than with the 767...


http://atwonline.com/news/other.html?issueDate=12%2F7%2F2006
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:08 pm

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 40):
Bair also said the 787 will have 2%-3% lower cash operating costs than originally promised, largely owing to better-than-expected maintenance costs

This highlights an oft-neglected component of CASM, which on a.net is often reduced to just fuel efficiency. (fuel accounts for less than half of direct operating costs, and dropping...)

This is one of the most fascinating aspects of the 787 for me.
 
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:07 pm

Boeing Press Release:

Boeing 787 Program Ends Year with Celebration of Progress

EVERETT, Wash. , Dec. 06, 2006 -- Customers, partners and employees gathered at the Boeing [NYSE: BA] Everett factory today to celebrate the virtual rollout of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and the program's progress over the last year.

Mike Bair, vice president and general manager of the 787 program, hosted the event.

"Today's virtual rollout is the culmination of many months of effort by thousands of team members at Boeing and its 787 partners," said Bair. "Through the use of our new digital toolset, provided by Dassault Systemes, the team has proven the ability to manufacture 787 designs."

While the detailed analysis and demonstrations created by the team remain proprietary for competitive reasons, the program did share a number of engineering-based simulations ranging from part installations to the final assembly factory flow in Everett.

"The engineering data behind these simulations gives us confidence in our assembly processes and our ability to meet our commitments to our customers," Bair said. "Our tools have enabled us to model the entire production process from our partners' factories to our own. We have found errors in simulation that would have been costly to find in production and have been able to design corrections quickly to keep the program on track."

For many of the partners, the simulations were paired with footage of actual work on their first test and production parts.

During the ceremony, Bair said that the first production wire bundle had been delivered from Labinal to Korean Air's Aerospace Division for installation in the wing tip being manufactured in Korea.

In addition, the program unveiled the new paint scheme for its 747-400 Large Cargo Freighters and announced that those airplanes will be named "Dreamlifters."

"The Dreamlifter is a vital tool that allows us to create a production flow around the world that is very efficient," said Bair. "We look forward to receiving the second Dreamlifter from EGAT in Taiwan early next month. It will arrive in Seattle already painted and ready to participate in the ongoing flight test program."

Additionally, the program unveiled the Dreamliner Gallery, a new facility in Everett, Wash., that provides 787 airline customers a more streamlined approach to airplane configuration.

"The Gallery provides a single location for airlines to configure their 787s," said Bair. "All catalog selections will be physically present in the Gallery for customers to see, touch and evaluate prior to selection. Previously, this was done at various locations around the world."

Also in preparation for the airplane's entry into service, Boeing is working with ANA and Northwest Airlines on a Service Ready Operational Validation program that will happen at the end of the flight test program and prior to first deliveries. A 787 will be used on actual airline routes, replicating the rigors and demands of commercial service.

"This is similar to the programs we have used with great success on other programs," said Bair. "It is one of the last steps we take to ensure that the airplane, the airlines, and the infrastructure are ready for 787 revenue service."

Bair congratulated the team for a spectacular 2006 and reminded everyone that 2007 is when many of the program's major milestones must be completed.

"We open our Everett factory next year and start producing airplanes," Bair said. "We will have our rollout and first flight and will begin the flight test program. Every year has been important as we move toward starting deliveries in 2008 but next year will be the most demanding experience for many of us.

"This is why we came to work for Boeing," he added, "to create new airplanes that bring new levels of performance to our customers and new levels of comfort and convenience to the passengers of the world.

"It's a challenge, no doubt about it. This is the team, all of us together - our customers, our partners and each of us - who will bring this airplane to life. It's an amazing journey from where we started just four years ago. But the best part is yet to come."

Boeing 787 Dreamliner Program
2006 Major Accomplishments
All factories begin part production
Wing test box complete and testing under way
Major systems laboratories opened and running
On-time start of major assembly
Large Cargo Freighter first flight and flight testing
First production wire bundle shipped
GoldCare Lifecycle Support Solution offered for service
25 percent of systems for airplane No. 1 shipped
Virtual rollout
First 787 VIP models sold
Orders and commitments increase to 458 airplanes from 37 customers
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RE: 787 On Schedule

Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:51 pm

Can't wait for the 787, my last wish before I die is to travel on one. The need for the smaller wide body will become apparent in the next 20 years. I remember the problems Boeing had with the 707 and the weight problems they had. But the old DC8 had the bigger problem, but it was still my favourite aircraft especially the First Class, with it's lounge. Good Luck Boeing on your launch of the 787
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