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A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:01 am

Last year, Boeing was far aheadof airbus in the numbers of aircraft ordered by the airlines despite the Paris airshow!

However at the end of december large numbers of airbus orderes were announced which made airbusgo ahead the number of Boeing orders. So far, Boeing is almost 150 orders ahead. What are the chances Airbus announces a new mega order by the end of the year?

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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:02 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
were announced which made airbus come really close to the number of Boeing orders.

they exceeded the boeing orders
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:05 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
What are the chances Airbus announces a new mega order by the end of the year?

I'm sure they're working hard to do just that, but a number of Airbus principles have publically stated that Boeing will secure the "orders by value" title this year again and will probably also secure the "orders by number" title this year.
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:19 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
I'm sure they're working hard to do just that, but a number of Airbus principles have publically stated that Boeing will secure the "orders by value" title this year again and will probably also secure the "orders by number" title this year.

Indeed, even John Leahy himself has said as much at least twice this year. In theory Airbus could give Boeing a very good run on numbers if they were able to firm up most, if not all, their outstanding commitments. But I don't think they will manage it.

I think Boeing has this year sown up on numbers and is out of sight on value. Airbus will be hoping they can compete better next year with the A350.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:26 am

EK order of B787 or A350 will be decisive for the year-end race. If Airbus gets the EK order plus some more orders for the A32x, they may still beat Boeing in terms of total orders (but not value). On the other hand, of the EK order goes to Boeing, there is almost no chance that Airbus will win the race.
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:30 am

That is assuming EK orders in the comming weeks and doesnt wait to order next year.
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:36 am

What is the state of all those A350 orders they counted last year?
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:38 am

Actually, there are rumors about two large orders - 50+ for EK, and and 30 for Iberia.
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting Glom (Reply 7):
What is the state of all those A350 orders they counted last year?

They haven't stopped counting them yet!!! They are all still showing the books (incredible I know!)
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:49 am

Quoting Katekebo (Reply 8):
Actually, there are rumors about two large orders - 50+ for EK, and and 30 for Iberia.

I'd like to see the face of Jacobin777 when they all go to the A350.  tongue 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 4):
Or will they have a magic 13 month year again and run this years order totals through January?

The Chinese order "from January" was actually placed the 5th December 2006, during the Chinese Premier visit to France.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):

However at the end of december large numbers of airbus orderes were announced which made airbusgo ahead the number of Boeing orders. So far, Boeing is almost 150 orders ahead. What are the chances Airbus announces a new mega order by the end of the year?

Depends on if Europe will bribe China with dropping the Tienemen Arms embargo, or stop criticizing China's human rights issues. If they do, Airbus will be in the orders. (To be fair, the same would happen if the US did the same, but the chance of that happening is about the chance of Lockheed announcing the L-2022 tomorrow).
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:35 am

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 8):
They are all still showing the books (incredible I know!)

If those airlines haven't cancelled their orders, why would Airbus take them off the order book?
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:44 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
I'd like to see the face of Jacobin777 when they all go to the A350

Funny you say that, because I would have loved to be a fly on your wall as the LH announcement was made yesterday!  Big grin

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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 12):
Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 8):
"They are all still showing the books (incredible I know!)"

If those airlines haven't cancelled their orders, why would Airbus take them off the order book?

Tongue-in-cheek, I wonder if the only people who read/care about the public order data are a.net readers! There have been a *lot* of a.net column-inches devoted to arguments over what constitutes an order etc etc etc... even some getting quite heated. Incredible I know.

Anyway, even though I'm an Airbus hamster, I've never bothered to look at it (or the Boeing one either). I'm not sure if I should be embarrassed or what.

Anyway, re the A350lite/mkII/son-of-A330 orders or whatever you want to call them, my understanding is that the bulk of them stand for the new 350 (although I could be wrong). I have no idea of the deals between Airbus and the carriers, but I imagine that they'll be being renegotiated on an individual basis. To be realistic, if I had ordered the 350 last year and had a 'flexible' business plan moving forward, I sure as shi*t wouldn't be canceling them.

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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:55 am

Quoting Glom (Reply 6):
What is the state of all those A350 orders they counted last year?

The firm A350 orders from last yr will remain last years orders, and any signed as firm this year will count as this years orders.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:58 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 13):
Funny you say that, because I would have loved to be a fly on your wall as the LH announcement was made yesterday! Big grin

I was celebrating the 1.000th order for the A330/A340 family.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 16):


I was celebrating the 1.000th order for the A330/A340 family.

Will you be doing that when the 1000th order for the near-dead 777 is announced too? It's almost here... Hey, what's the last order count on the T7s anyone?

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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:20 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 17):
Hey, what's the last order count on the T7s anyone?

890 firm, plus KL (15) and Philippine (2) orders to be firmed...others too, I'm guessing,
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 17):
Will you be doing that when the 1000th order for the near-dead 777 is announced too? It's almost here... Hey, what's the last order count on the T7s anyone?

As an aviation enthusiast, I will think that it is great. However, since some people will definitively abuse the opportunity to bash the A340 for having less orders (somewhat ignoring the A330) - I'll have to spit in the soup on a.net.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:27 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
I'd like to see the face of Jacobin777 when they all go to the A350.

..and half the people on this forum would love to see your face when they go 787. He hee
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 19):
As an aviation enthusiast, I will think that it is great. However, since some people will definitively abuse the opportunity to bash the A340 for having less orders (somewhat ignoring the A330) - I'll have to spit in the soup on a.net.

Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:32 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 20):
..and half the people on this forum would love to see your face when they go 787. He hee

I can post a picture. However, 787 orders won't happen too often in the future.

Quoting HB88 (Reply 21):

Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

I agree. And there are many of those in this forum.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:36 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 22):
I can post a picture. However, 787 orders won't happen too often in the future.

C'mon Thorben. I know you've said some ridiculous things in the past but this 'almost' beats your previous statement about 'dying 777'.

Quoting HB88 (Reply 21):
Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Y

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:42 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
I'd like to see the face of Jacobin777 when they all go to the A350.  tongue 

Hey..hey..hey there now....just because I love the 777 and 747, doesn't mean I dont' like Airbus planes(read my profile)...and if Airbus does win the "big" order, I would say "congratulations"..and would still fly on EK's planes.....liking one plane doesn't mean I hate the other.. no 

In fact, I find the A330-200 to be a great airplane...!



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Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 13):
Funny you say that, because I would have loved to be a fly on your wall as the LH announcement was made yesterday!  biggrin 

Man..I was thinking the same thing... thumbsup 

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 13):

I'm kidding with you. Even though I almost always disagree with you, you're a great contributor to a.net!

Are you sure you go that far?  silly ..

.I'm only giving you a hard time Thorben... Smile

Quoting Thorben (Reply 19):
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 17):
Will you be doing that when the 1000th order for the near-dead 777 is announced too? It's almost here... Hey, what's the last order count on the T7s anyone?

As an aviation enthusiast, I will think that it is great. However, since some people will definitively abuse the opportunity to bash the A340 for having less orders (somewhat ignoring the A330) - I'll have to spit in the soup on a.net.

Right..suuuuuuurrrre Thorben..anytime there is some good 777 news, the next comment of yours is "The A350XWB is coming".... Wink

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 20):
Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
I'd like to see the face of Jacobin777 when they all go to the A350.

..and half the people on this forum would love to see your face when they go 787. He hee

 checkmark ..you can take that to the bank.. bigthumbsup 

Quoting HB88 (Reply 21):
Quoting Thorben (Reply 19):
As an aviation enthusiast, I will think that it is great. However, since some people will definitively abuse the opportunity to bash the A340 for having less orders (somewhat ignoring the A330) - I'll have to spit in the soup on a.net.

Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

I hope you weren't referring to me..... no 


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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:45 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 16):
I was celebrating the 1.000th order for the A330/A340 family.

Notice you have to add two models together to get to 1000. How pathetic.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:50 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 24):
In fact, I find the A330-200 to be a great airplane...!

Hey, make sure you take a video of the MASSIVE ones too when you fly EK's 773 later this month.  biggrin 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:53 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 25):
Notice you have to add two models together to get to 1000. How pathetic.

It's still a big accomplishment. A330/340 are the same family so your comment wasn't necessary.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:55 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 26):
Hey, make sure you take a video of the MASSIVE ones too when you fly EK's 773 later this month.  biggrin 

 checkmark ..You are darn right my man! With THREE MASSIVE one's coming in 24 hours...its going to be  cloudnine ....then we can make some comparisons between those puny hair dryers and the MASSIVE ones... biggrin 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Y

Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 24):
Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

I hope you weren't referring to me....

Nope!

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 29):
Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 27):
"It's still a big accomplishment. A330/340 are the same family so your comment wasn't necessary."

I'm well aware that Airbus considers them one family--combining them is the only way they can spin decent sales numbers.

Ah, the usual mean-spirited and obnoxious nonsense! Are you sure you can't squeeze any worse spin on some good news from Airbus?

The 330 and 340 are built on the same line and are the same family. If Airbus want to say they've sold a grand of the 330/340 line so be it. It might sour your koolaid, but there are plenty who think that is pretty nice.

The 330/340 line are lovely aircraft for pax and awesomely elegant to boot.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 25):
Notice you have to add two models together to get to 1000.

Well, for every A330 built it is one A340 that Can't be built because they are on the same line. So maybe we can cut them some slack. Maybe, just this once.

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 25):
How pathetic.

Start your own topic about how the 757/767 have sold in the neighborhood of 2000 copies. Too lazy to look up the exact numbers. They were designed together and considered a family by some.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 12):
If those airlines haven't cancelled their orders, why would Airbus take them off the order book?

Because the plane they ordered isn't offered for sale anymore. Those orders *should* (and likely will) be backed out and replaced with new orders. Simply put those contracts are null and void apart from any compensation that may be due airlines for Airbus cancelling the plane they committed to buy.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 19):
As an aviation enthusiast, I will think that it is great. However, since some people will definitively abuse the opportunity to bash the A340 for having less orders (somewhat ignoring the A330) - I'll have to spit in the soup on a.net.

You mean the way you took advantage for the 748 sale to abuse the 748??
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:16 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 25):
Notice you have to add two models together to get to 1000. How pathetic.

As a matter of fact, all that is pathetic is your comment..
However it's nice to notice that not all of our fellow US a.netters are as short minded as you are.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:22 am

Quoting HB88 (Reply 21):
Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

Not true, but then they're not representative aviation enthusiasts either.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:24 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
So far, Boeing is almost 150 orders ahead.

Numbers, numbers, numbers, .........
what a about a size and value of the aircraft ordered? There are more than 70 747 and 50 777 and 150 787. On the airbus side is considerably less.
Their last year (magically lasted 14 month, instead of usual 12) order book was 1100 aircraft mostly narrobodies. Where boeing scored more than 400 widebodies of 1002 aircraft ordered.

The value and size of the aircraft is important. the 737 just isn't like A380
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:18 am

We will have to see how many cheap A320s they can give away. Or find some 3rd world country airline or China to save face.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:25 am

Quoting HB88 (Reply 29):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 24):
Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

I hope you weren't referring to me....

Nope!

Ok..just making sure... Smile
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting HB88 (Reply 21):
Don't sweat it. In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

 checkmark  Well said, you are 100% right.

Now to Airbus orders: I dont expect this year bigger orders for Airbus. Airlines need time to gain trust in Airbus.
Also i cant imagine EK will order the A350 now at such a early state because:

This week EK (Clark himself )threatened on a german newschannel the A350 program have to run without any problems or Airbus will die. They are obvious mad and one can assume until they see a prove both A350 & A380 are on track its very unlikely the will order any Airbus widebody.

However latest EK press release imply they are very interested at the A350XBW.

Quoting HB88 (Reply 29):
The 330/340 line are lovely aircraft for pax and awesomely elegant to boot.

 checkmark 

Much quieter and comfortable for me, a class more beautiful then the 777.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:47 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
I'd like to see the face of Jacobin777 when they all go to the A350.

HOPE springs eternal eh, Thorben? Not a chance in heck of that ever happening. The A350 doesn't hold a candle to the 787!!!
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:58 am

Remember early 2006, the US press, a.net had declared a succesfull comeback, claimed victory, started & completed a party and then it came out Airbus beat them afterall.

Deafening silences, look at it differently´s, etc.  bigthumbsup 

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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:07 am

Even though I like the optimism of some Airbus fans, unfortunately, it's not gonna happen this year. Last year, the orders race was neck to neck, this year isn't close enough.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:23 am

I have no doubt some obscure carrier we've never heard of will order 200 A320s on December 52, 2006, thus vaulting Airbus to victory in the numbers game for yet another year.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 39):
Remember early 2006, the US press, a.net had declared a succesfull comeback, claimed victory, started & completed a party and then it came out Airbus beat them afterall.

Yah, I remember. That was when Airbus extended the year into January so they'd have time to cook the books.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting HB88 (Reply 21):
In my mind, those who constantly delight in the perceived or otherwise failures of one manufacturer over another are simply not real aviation enthusiasts. End of story.

I fail to see how you can say that. Just because I'm an automobile enthusiast doesn't mean I can't think a particular car or car company is crap. The same for an hobby that bears the enthusiast title. In fact, they fact people feel so strongly one way or the other is what makes it worthy of the 'enthusiast' title over merely the 'hobby' title.

Having said that, there is a level of civility that could reasonably be expected (I.e. I expect that if I say the 380 is crap, people will take issue with the statement but NOT resort to name calling, etc.)

You can be an enthusiast and still have a favorite.. but the lack for each other is what's sorely lacking on this forum. I usually (but not always) take great care when I'm slagging an aircraft or corporate decision to point out why I'm slagging whatever is. I also try to make it clear where I think the problem lies (i.e. with the 380 and Airbus it's management and not Johnny Lunchbox who busts his balls and has to watch management run his company into the ground).

These days I'm more in the Boeing camp. The reason is simple, I *perceive* them as innovating more than Airbus. As an enthusiast I want to support and cheer on that innovation. I'm not going to cheer for Airbus while they are pre-occupied with 'me-too' aircraft, or while their executives are acting like ADHD 4 year olds who ran out of Riddaline (or whoever you spell it).

So please forgive the sermon, but suffice it to say I disagree with you  Wink

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 37):
But the 777 is sure a great engineering achievement.

To elaborate on my above speech... I care about two things when it comes to flying: Technical achievement (I love the Concorde for example) and financial achievement (the reason I prefer the 777 over the 340, and the same reason I think the 330 is superior to the 767). Appeal to the geek or the money-maker in me and you've got my support  Wink
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:53 am

Quoting Cobra27 (Reply 34):
The value and size of the aircraft is important. the 737 just isn't like A380

Its a matter of personal opinion, theres no point even agruing over how the number1 manufacturer should be decided because everybody will have a different opinion, that by 'pure coincidence' tends to put their prefered manufacturer at the top. It could be units, value (which is impossible to calculate precisly), or profits.

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 30):
Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 25):
Notice you have to add two models together to get to 1000.

Well, for every A330 built it is one A340 that Can't be built because they are on the same line. So maybe we can cut them some slack. Maybe, just this once.

If only some people realsied this, its not like Airbus can build an unlimited number of each. They come from the same line, and for each one that is built, airbus are unable to build one of the other. The A330 and A340 were developed from the start as the same programme, and apart from the engines of course, they were designed to be 99.9% identical.
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:55 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 44):
value (which is impossible to calculate precisly),

No, but usually it's not all that hard to see who has the value lead.. And yes there are a lot of metrics.. but the problem (at least for me) in the whole order race thing is, I would care much less about it, if Airbus didn't insist on crowing about (relatively) hollow victories "We won the orders race!! (just don't ask us what the profit margin is)"
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:09 am

Quoting HB88 (Reply 29):
The 330 and 340 are built on the same line and are the same family.

This argument is a bit harder to make when the A345/6 are included since thay have little in common with the rest of the A330/A340 family except for the flight deck and fuselage cross section. The wing in particular distances the A345/6 from the rest of the "family".
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:14 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 44):
They come from the same line, and for each one that is built, airbus are unable to build one of the other.

This sounds like very poor planning on the part of management. No wonder Airbus is such a mess.
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:15 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 42):
Quoting Keesje (Reply 39):
Remember early 2006, the US press, a.net had declared a succesfull comeback, claimed victory, started & completed a party and then it came out Airbus beat them afterall.

Yah, I remember. That was when Airbus extended the year into January so they'd have time to cook the books.

Ah I thought this claim would start to pop up again around this time of the year. I dont see you suggesting that the 2006 airbus numbers be increased in the orders thread  sarcastic 
 
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RE: A Big Airbus Order To Come By The End Of The Year?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting Warren747sp (Reply 35):
We will have to see how many cheap A320s they can give away. Or find some 3rd world country airline or China to save face

That was a little below the belt.