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Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:31 am

Hi all

I was alerted on the news today that tornado ripped through an area on NW London. So I promptly checked the recent LHR METARs and found this near the time when the twister took place!

EGLL 071050Z 24028G47KT 6000 -TSRA FEW016 SCT030CB 07/05 Q0988 RERA TEMPO 24020G35KT

Can anyone provide me with further reports or any pilots landing at LHR who may have noticed some cell activity on the weather radar screens on the aircraft's flight deck.

The storm made the top story on the national news today, I have a link if anyone is interested!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/07/world/main2237580.shtml

Thanks for the help!

Jeremy
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:34 am

Sky interviewed a guy who was on a BA flight to Glasgow and he said it was the worst turbulence he ever experienced.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:46 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 1):

that turbulence probably due to too much scotch that coursed turbulence in his head while walking up the plane to the loo lol

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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:26 am

Here is a CNN report on it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/07/uk.tornado/index.html

It says that while the U.K. sees 30 a year on average it is rare to get one that does this kind of damage.
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:20 am

Quoting Express1 (Reply 2):
that turbulence probably due to too much scotch that coursed turbulence in his head while walking up the plane to the loo lol

Your probably not too far from the truth there.
I was at work today and BA's passenger disruption lines were opened due to flight delays in the London area.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:39 am

All I know is that at about 11 to 12 this morning a huge storm passed over with strong winds and heavy rain. Flights into Northolt were coming in at around 11.15am, I was in an exam and saw the biz jet get pushed around a bit and then 146 shot passed the window at a very high speed.
Was a bit scary and distracting to have wind, rain and a few aircraft flying over your collage.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:02 am

Not sure if it's related but there is a flight BA 89R on it's way back to LHR, anyone have any info on this
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:02 am

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Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:16 am

flew from Gatwick today and it was very windy when we took off plane we hit some turbulence
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:57 am

Was walking the dog past LCY lunchtime when wind picked up considerably those manx & VLM craft were wobbled around a fair bit. Plenty of white knuckles im sure, I was nervous just watching.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:05 am

Heres a unknown fact: According to statistics, per square mile, the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:18 am

^Wow... I did not know that. Very interesting.
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:40 am

Yeah its strange. In fact I can think of at least two (quite small) twisters that occured within a few kms of my house in the last few years (I live just outside Dublin).

[Edited 2006-12-08 02:41:47]
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:49 am

Quote:
The storm, with winds of around 150 mph (240 kph), ripped roofs off some homes, tore down walls and trees, and left streets strewn with debris. One car was buried under fallen bricks, video footage from the scene showed.

-CNN

150mph winds? That is a very strong F2 on the Fujita Scale IIRC. I believe if the winds would've been 156mph or stronger, it would've been an F3, which is considered to be a large tornado.

And the fact that ENGLAND saw a tornado of this magnitude is very rare. Yet, this one hit LONDON, one of the largest, most populous metropolises around.

On the weather channel, they have that TV show, "It could happen tomorrow," and they talked about what if a massive tornado was to hit Dallas... Well, a rare tornado just did strike a very large city. Amazing! Yet, terrifying and devastating...

And after reading these posts about folks on some of the planes in the area, thank goodness yins guys came through it alright! I am sure many of yins had to have been nervous, scared, etc...
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:59 pm

I flew into Luton from Belfast just after the tornado had struck London. We were on the gust line of the storm.

After 35 years of flying back and forth between Ireland and Luton, I thought I had seen it all. I was wrong.

It was by far the worst turbulence I have ever encountered. The pilot warnd us to expect some turbluence. The crew strapepd in well before landing (far more than normal). From 5000 down to the runway the plane was just being thrown around the sky. The wings regularly dipped to around 30deg angle. The cross wind was extremely gusty. You could actually feel the aircraft crabbing. And the fuselage was visibly shimmering.

Irnoically the actual touchdown was a smooth as anything.....maybe the plane was glad to be down and decided to be gentle on itself Smile
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 10):
the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world

Tornados are quite rare. Most of the time when they do happen, they form in the countryside and go un-reported.We had one last year in the north-west which nearly ripped through the middle of a BAE systems factory.
Quite scary when you only live a few miles away!
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:35 am

I saw the storm that produced the tornado, it was very scary especially as I was sitting in a silent hall in the middle of an exam. The pictures in newspapers and on the BBC show quite a big funnel not like the Birmingham twister which didn't touchdown but just hovered above the city.

There was disruption into Northolt and Heathrow but no major delays.
 
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:55 am

Thanks for the information guys - it was real interesting!

I guess I have been lucky really never to have experienced really bad turbulence! However, I remember flying back from NAP to STN in 2002 and seeing a thunderstorm below whilst crossing the Alps in Austria/Switzerland but the ride was so smooth despite the many deviations to avoid CBs!

I wish we had a pic from above the cloud - highly unlikely I know but it must be an awesome sight!
 
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:29 am

Quoting Imiakhtar (Reply 15):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 10):
the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world

Tornados are quite rare. Most of the time when they do happen, they form in the countryside and go un-reported.We had one last year in the north-west which nearly ripped through the middle of a BAE systems factory.
Quite scary when you only live a few miles away!

I didn't know that the State of Oklahoma was in the British Isles!!!  stirthepot  Big grin
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:03 am

wow that's scary, I don't want to be flying around one of those , I prefer to be inside a hurricane with a wc-130 than flying a c152 near a tornado
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:03 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18):
Quoting Imiakhtar (Reply 15):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 10):
the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world

Tornados are quite rare. Most of the time when they do happen, they form in the countryside and go un-reported.We had one last year in the north-west which nearly ripped through the middle of a BAE systems factory.
Quite scary when you only live a few miles away!

I didn't know that the State of Oklahoma was in the British Isles!!!

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Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:11 pm

Ten million people in London and NO ONE got the flippin' thing on video? Cripes.

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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:08 pm

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 16):
I saw the storm that produced the tornado, it was very scary especially as I was sitting in a silent hall in the middle of an exam. The pictures in newspapers and on the BBC show quite a big funnel not like the Birmingham twister which didn't touchdown but just hovered above the city.

Shamrock,

The Bham tornado did indeed touch down and was classed as a F2 - F3 tornado. The Bham twister injured around 30 people, 4 seriously and destroyed houses accross 3 different Bham suburbs. It also caused considerable damage to a school and supermarket in the Sparkbrook area. The Association of British Insurers estimated the damage from the London tornado at around £10 million, the Bham twister caused damage valued in excess of £500 million.
 
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:07 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18):
I didn't know that the State of Oklahoma was in the British Isles!!!



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 20):
That's because it isn't. It's in Kansas

http://www.baesystems.co.uk/facts/awards/locations5.htm#lancashire

Hope this clears things up!
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting Pumaknight (Reply 14):

Thanks for the information. I didn't know it touched down and caused so much damage, I just saw the mobile phone images and saw some wind and clouds but not a tornado funnel.
The picture I provided above was pretty shocking when I live a few miles from the area hit.
 
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RE: Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:38 pm

Shamrock,

I had to laugh at a report on the BBC which opened with the line:

'following last years mini tornado in Birmingham today a real one touched down here in London'

Cheeky gets!

In all seriousness I understand the relative strength of the 2 plus the other recent tornados in Peterboro and Aberystwyth were pretty much the same. However the Brum one lasted much longer therefore caused more damage.

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