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787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:20 am

i was looking at the 787 and i saw this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B787_Section_41.jpg it is a real nose pic of the 787.

,james

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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:24 am

You've added a ! to that so it wont work


Correct link. Cool photo also!!

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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:39 am

This is actually quite an old photo..its been around the internet for a while...
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:43 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
This is actually quite an old photo..its been around the internet for a while...

Specifically, the picture came from Randy's August 26, 2005 blog entry

http://www.boeing.com/randy/archives/2005/08/index.html
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:54 am

Its also for 'show' and not an actual working section 41. There has not been a single piece of the airplane completed yet.

Closest is the first barrell, that came off the 'drill and trim' machine at spirit in the last few days. That machine just cleans off all the excess material. Cuts out the door and windows and drills a number of location holes before full fledged drilling begins to attach inner supports, floors etc.

So still a ways away
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:05 am

Quoting Firennice (Reply 8):
Its also for 'show' and not an actual working section 41.

I was wondering why it had been pre-painted...
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:06 am

and here's a link to a short video on the 787 including a look in the cabin and computer simulation, also an interview with the 787 chief engineer.

Enjoy:

http://www.on10.net/Blogs/tina/4944/
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:23 am

Quoting Firennice (Reply 8):
There has not been a single piece of the airplane completed yet.

So still a ways away

Well, about three weeks.

The first fuselage section for the flight prototype will leave for PAE on January 2, 2007.
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 6):

Specifically, the picture came from Randy's August 26, 2005 blog entry

Thanks for the update, I couldn't remember where it was from... thumbsup 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 6):
Specifically, the picture came from Randy's August 26, 2005 blog entry

I said it was at least 8 months old, I guess it is more likw 15 months old.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:16 pm

I like the way it is going to be more pointy then the rest of Boeing aircraft.
Can't wait until the complete aircraft is done. I want to see the inside and out and even fly on it. Unlike the A380. My gut is telling me to stay off that bird for a few years.

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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:01 pm

It was the first time I've seen it. Awesome!
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:07 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 8):
I was wondering why it had been pre-painted...

The test sections were all painted in order to test the painting process.
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:22 pm

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 10):
The first fuselage section for the flight prototype will leave for PAE on January 2, 2007.

Actually technically its not a prototype, but a test aircraft which will be delivered to a customer in the long run.
It also is not being delivered to PAE on the 2nd but to Charleston, NC where Vought will assemble it will there larger peices and at that time it will make its way into my hands at PAE for assembly into the first 787. ::Evil laughter::
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:10 pm

I guess we should get techinical about the parts and how they move eh!

Certain parts from Nagoya and Italy are flown to Charleston and mated with Vought parts, then put back on the LFC and flown to PAE for final assembly.

Some US domesticaly made parts will go by train to PAE.

There are some parts that will be flown directly from overseas subcontracts to PAE. I think some parts from Korea are going directly.

I have posted this before but always good to keep people up to date.
The LCF will be coming to NGO either at the end of this month or on the 1st of January. (I put my money on the end of the month) 787 parts from the three Japanese subcontractors will be loaded onto the LCF at spots 404, 405, and 406 on the International side of Chubu International. This area is clearly visible from the observation deck and Parking lot 3.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:29 pm

Is it just me, or is there less hype about the 787 than the 380. I remember so many pictures of the 380 before its first flight. Does boeing try to "hide" the assembly of this aircraft? I cant wait to see this roll out for the first time!
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:34 pm

Quoting Kearney (Reply 18):
Is it just me, or is there less hype about the 787 than the 380.

That's because the new extremes and standards that the 787 sets are more visible to the airlines than to the public. The public doesn't easily notice the operating or maintenance efficiency, and they won't realize that the 787 is responsible for new routes opening up. The A380 is mainly just bigger. The two aircraft will change the way people travel in different ways.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:05 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 19):
Quoting Kearney (Reply 18):Is it just me, or is there less hype about the 787 than the 380.

That's because the new extremes and standards that the 787 sets are more visible to the airlines than to the public. The public doesn't easily notice the operating or maintenance efficiency, and they won't realize that the 787 is responsible for new routes opening up. The A380 is mainly just bigger. The two aircraft will change the way people travel in different ways.

But also remember that Boeing realizes that Airbus is in hot water because of the way they hyped the Whale-Jet before it even was delivered to an airline. I think Boeing is smart by keeping the 787 project low-key until they actually have something to present to the public... They're doing the same thing with the 747-8i (F) project too.

It'll be soon enough though, but personally, I can't wait to see the finished product!

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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
Unlike the A380. My gut is telling me to stay off that bird for a few years.

i totally agree my gut says the same thing  scared 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
Unlike the A380. My gut is telling me to stay off that bird for a few years.



Quoting JamesJimlb (Reply 21):
i totally agree my gut says the same thing

What strange comments. Either you two possess an unnatural fear/aversion to anything un-Boeing, or you know exceedingly little about commercial aviation. I suspect both. The certification process is no less stringent for any plane not manufactured 'at home', so why you draw the distinction is baffling.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:30 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 22):
What strange comments. Either you two possess an unnatural fear/aversion to anything un-Boeing, or you know exceedingly little about commercial aviation. I suspect both. The certification process is no less stringent for any plane not manufactured 'at home', so why you draw the distinction is baffling.

I by no means agree with their sentiments, but I would imagine perhaps there reasoning is the wiring issues and the drive towards certification? Again, I don't agree with them, but that's the only reasoning I can even guess at.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:00 am

Quoting Bohlman (Reply 23):
I by no means agree with their sentiments, but I would imagine perhaps there reasoning is the wiring issues and the drive towards certification?

Perhaps so, I wonder if they realise that pretty much every aircraft type they've flown on or seen has at some stage of its development suffered some form of glitch that required at least one redesign or other fix. It's the nature of building something as complex as an airplane.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 16):
Actually technically its not a prototype, but a test aircraft which will be delivered to a customer in the long run.

Have they already completed the wing stress testing for the 787? I was under the impression that they test with the wings fixed to the fuselage.

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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:05 am

that nose looks different from the actual design
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:11 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 22):
What strange comments. Either you two possess an unnatural fear/aversion to anything un-Boeing, or you know exceedingly little about commercial aviation. I suspect both. The certification process is no less stringent for any plane not manufactured 'at home', so why you draw the distinction is baffling.

Yeah, I agree. What are you two talking about. Those are two odd comments that too many people here on a.net will agree to.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:46 pm

Quoting Zenarcade (Reply 25):
Have they already completed the wing stress testing for the 787? I was under the impression that they test with the wings fixed to the fuselage.

Err... no they havn't.

Correct. ONE Frame will be virtually destroyed in the iron maiden wing break test.

Amazing!! to watch... the 777 wing test sounded like a nuclear bomb going off in the factory. Insane...
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:27 pm

Quoting Kearney (Reply 18):
Is it just me, or is there less hype about the 787 than the 380. I remember so many pictures of the 380 before its first flight. Does boeing try to "hide" the assembly of this aircraft? I cant wait to see this roll out for the first time!

Well let's see....
They made a test nose and test barrel. That is really all we have seen so far.

The first major parts will be rolled out on January 2nd at NGO. Hopefully some of us in Japan will be able to get photos. But all those photos will be rejected as none of us are photographers. We all seem to have "crap" for cameras. (we complain with each other about how our pictures are always rejected).

Hopefully as these will be new and "rare". We can get them accepted.

So on January 2nd or 1st depending your time zone, you will see the first pictures. Either by Centrair, Aaron747, or NWAatNGO. Your three Nagoya Area A.netters. (Hey Carpethead, if you are in country, pop up and shoot some...you have connections.)
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:15 pm

It'll be a nice plane. That nose-picture promises a lot. Very nice!

But why took it years for Boeing (with their B787) and Airbus (with their A350) to create this smooth shaped and streamlined coned nose while short and medium haul prop & jet airliners had such a simular nose and cockpit years before?


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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:36 pm

Any more true pics of the B787.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:09 pm

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 19):
What strange comments. Either you two possess an unnatural fear/aversion to anything un-Boeing, or you know exceedingly little about commercial aviation. I suspect both. The certification process is no less stringent for any plane not manufactured 'at home', so why you draw the distinction is baffling.

Wrong! i lived in arizona for a long time and we flew to and from florida alot and guess what kind of plane i was on an a320!!
i have also been on embreaers!
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:12 pm

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 13):
It also is not being delivered to PAE on the 2nd but to Charleston, NC

Charleston is in SC. Charlotte is in NC. Charlottesville is in Virginia.  Smile
 
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:57 am

Quoting BrettFromCLT (Reply 30):
Charleston is in SC. Charlotte is in NC.

Oops... yeah. I always do that. Thanks for the correction.
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RE: 787 Nose Picture (REAL)!

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:10 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 14):
Certain parts from Nagoya and Italy are flown to Charleston and mated with Vought parts, then put back on the LFC

LFC? Large F&cking Cargoplane?  biggrin 
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