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The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:47 am

I think that the possible A380 Destinations are:

LHR, BOM, DXB, SIN, FRA, SYD, BKK, DEL, JFK?, LAX?, SFO?, ORD?, JNB,

CAN YOU THINK OF ANY MORE ? I THINK THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC ONES !
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:54 am

MEL.

QF have already earmarked the MEL-LAX service for the A380
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:57 am

Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:

1 LONDON, GB (LHR)
2 PARIS, FR (CDG)
3 FRANKFURT, DE (FRA)
4 ALTA, NO (ALF)
5 HONG KONG, CN (HKG)
6 SINGAPORE, SG (SIN)
7 LONDON, GB (LGW)
8 BANGKOK, TH (BKK)
9 TOKYO, JP (NRT)
10 SEOUL, KR (ICN)
11 DUBAI, AE (DXB)
12 MADRID, ES (MAD)
13 MUNICH, DE (MUC)
14 LONDON, GB (STN)
15 TAIPEI, TW (TPE)
16 DUBLIN, IE (DUB)
17 NEW YORK, NY (JFK)
18 COPENHAGEN, DK (CPH)
19 MANCHESTER, GB (MAN)
20 MILAN, IT (MXP)
21 ZURICH, CH (ZRH)
22 TORONTO, ON, CA (YYZ)
23 LOS ANGELES, CA (LAX)
24 ROME, IT (FCO)
25 BRUSSELS, BE (BRU)
26 VIENNA, AT (VIE)
27 PALMA DE MALLORCA, ES (PMI)
28 SHANGHAI, CN (PVG)
29 BARCELONA, ES (BCN)
30 KUALA LUMPUR, MY (KUL)


Source: http://www.airports.org/cda/aci/display/main/aci_content.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-5-212-1376-1380_9_2__

[Edited 2006-12-10 02:06:04]
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:34 am

Top 10 US Cities to see the A380 (speculation)

1. New York JFK
2. Los Angeles LAX
3. Chicago ORD
4. Atlanta ATL (Not from DL, at least)
5. Houston IAH
6. Washington, DC IAD
7. Boston BOS
8. Minneapolis MSP
9. Detroit DTW
10. Dallas DFW

Just my 2 cents,
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:40 am

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:

1. LONDON, GB (LHR)

If one were to exclude the European Continental traffic,
where would LHR rank?
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:44 am

Has not AF stated they will fly the A380 to YYZ?

[Edited 2006-12-10 02:47:06]
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:52 am

The only airports that I think will see the A380 in the immediate future are JFK and LAX. Others might follow, but those are the two that should be the highest priority. Los Angeles and New York are the only markets big enough to warrant the A380 ASAP.

EDIT: Im refering only to airports in the US.

[Edited 2006-12-10 03:02:05]
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:56 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 4):
If one were to exclude the European Continental traffic,
where would LHR rank?

I don't quite understand, or see the point of, the question as the OP specifically pointed out international passengers. European continental traffic is international, so why would it be excluded?
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:58 am

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:

1 LONDON, GB (LHR)
2 PARIS, FR (CDG)
3 FRANKFURT, DE (FRA)
4 ALTA, NO (ALF)
5 HONG KONG, CN (HKG)
6 SINGAPORE, SG (SIN)
7 LONDON, GB (LGW)

I'm VERY suspicious about these results - Alta, Norway as number 5?  Smile I'm even suspicious about Dublin being no. 16, but that's a different story...
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:11 am

You can include MCO on the list for US Cities.

I would put MCO in the Top 10 US cities for the A380.

Virgin will almost definitely send one to mco (next summer 3 x 747's from LGW, 2 747's from MAN on certain days)
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:14 am

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 5):
Has not AF stated they will fly the A380 to YYZ?

To YUL.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:18 am

I think Lufthansa plans to send it to Mexico City.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:26 am

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
4. Atlanta ATL (Not from DL, at least)

ATL has already publicly stated last year that the A380 is not welcome. ATL does not want to pay for the improvements that only supports the A380 as it wouldnt benefit the other carriers serving ATL.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:32 am

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:

I can't think of a more useless list. The list makes it look like STN and MAD are somehow bigger airports than ORD, because they have flights to such far away destinations as CDG and FRA. SFO doesn't even make the list but TPE is there because its on an Island and every flight is an international flight.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:35 am

Are there any possibilities of a carrier flying the A380 on schedule flights to an airport in the Caribbean?
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 13):
I can't think of a more useless list. The list makes it look like STN and MAD are somehow bigger airports than ORD, because they have flights to such far away destinations as CDG and FRA. SFO doesn't even make the list but TPE is there because its on an Island and every flight is an international flight.

The list refers to the amound of international passenger traffic which MAD does see more then ORD.

[Edited 2006-12-10 03:40:00]
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:40 am

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
9. Detroit DTW

Is DTW ready for the 380? And who would be flying it here?
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:42 am

Don't think DTW will be getting it, nor do I think we will be getting it down here in Houston.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:43 am

Possible destinations? Just about every major airport. Silly question.

LIKELY destinations? PROBABLE destinations? That's a better question.

Quoting B773ER (Thread starter):
I think that the possible A380 Destinations are:

Think anything you want, but there is easily obtainable knowledge on your list.  Wink Every airport on that list will see the A380 relatively soon, with the possible exception of ORD.

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):

I don't see ATL, IAH, DFW, BOS, MSP, DTW getting the A380 any time soon. Possible? Again, anything's possible, but I assume the thread starter was referring to probable, not possible, airports.

Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 9):
Virgin will almost definitely send one to mco

VS is unlikely to fly the A380 at this point, so MCO seeing it is a long shot right now.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 6):
The only airports that I think will see the A380 in the immediate future are JFK and LAX. Others might follow, but those are the two that should be the highest priority. Los Angeles and New York are the only markets big enough to warrant the A380 ASAP.

EDIT: Im refering only to airports in the US.

Don't forget SFO. There is a good chance someone may fly WhaleJets there. The airport is already ready.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 16):
Is DTW ready for the 380? And who would be flying it here?

I seem to remember that no scheduled service is expected, but the airport would be ready for diversions. Can't remember where I read that though.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:56 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 15):
The list refers to the amound of international passenger traffic which MAD does see more then ORD



Yea, I know. To such far away places as ORY, MAN, STN, FRA, AMS and every where else the A320 goes in Europe. Like I said, the list is useless.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:04 pm

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
4 ALTA, NO (ALF)

Say what???

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
3. Chicago ORD
4. Atlanta ATL (Not from DL, at least)

Both have stated they will not invest in infrastructure upgrades, although ORD would seem a likely candidate for LH/Star Alliance hub-to-hub service.

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
5. Houston IAH

By whom?

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
8. Minneapolis MSP

See Houston.

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
10. Dallas DFW

See Houston.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 21):
Yea, I know. To such far away places as ORY, MAN, STN, FRA, AMS and every where else the A320 goes in Europe. Like I said, the list is useless.

No... Like the places Iberia, Air Madrid, Air Europa, Pullmantur, Air Comet, Aerolineas Argentinas, Continental, US Airways, Thai, Pluna, Aeromexico, Avianca, Qatar, Egypt Air, and other airlines like such send their aircraft from MAD that carry a large amount of international passengers.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:21 pm

Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 9):
You can include MCO on the list for US Cities.

VS is the only carrier that would have done that... No future plans for VS to acquire it now.

Quoting Caribb (Reply 10):
To YUL.

Thanks Big grin

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 19):
Don't forget SFO. There is a good chance someone may fly WhaleJets there. The airport is already ready.

B773ER already states SFO in his opening post. I do not see it though in the near future. Only LAX & JFK.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:25 pm

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 24):
B773ER already states SFO in his opening post. I do not see it though in the near future. Only LAX & JFK.

Qantas, Virgin Atlantic, and Lufthansa could be potential A380 visitors.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:40 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 18):
Possible destinations? Just about every major airport. Silly question.

LIKELY destinations? PROBABLE destinations? That's a better question.

Then lets look at who is getting aircraft first. My understanding the first three are SQ, EK & QF. [If you have better info please share, QF first delivery is MSN014, early aircraft will not be delivered in MSN order due to the use of various aircraft in the flight test program and subequent refurbishment]

SQ has annonced thattheir first A380 fight WILL BE SIN-SYD. So SIN will be first and SYD second to see the A380 in commerical service. When they have sufficient aircraft SQ will next operate SIN-SYD-SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD-SIN. Some local services from SIN are likely for training purposes, maybe CGK, DPS, KUL, BKK???

EK is second. I have not seen an announcement from EK. Obviously it will include DXB. I would guess DXB-LHR but who knows. Would they use it to NYC first? If so then their NYC airport (JFK?) is likely to be the first in North America.

QF is third and have announced that ther first A380 service WILL BE MEL-LAX, followed by SYD-LAX. So unless EK operate to NYC first LAX will be the first North American airport to see A380 commerical operation. QF have announced that LHR service will follow LAX service, but have not announced details. If you wonder why QF would put LAX first have a look at this thread http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...eneral_aviation/read.main/3138642/


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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:55 pm

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 24):
Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 9):
You can include MCO on the list for US Cities.

VS is the only carrier that would have done that... No future plans for VS to acquire it now.

Good point. Even if VS were getting the a/c sooner (if they do at all), would MCO really be high on the list? I know they operate multiple 744's, but from everything I've heard, it's not exactly a high yield destination. Also, would they base a 380 at Gatwick over Heathrow?
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:07 pm

While certainly not set in concrete the following carriers have previously informed the City of Los Angeles that they would utilize the A380 on LAX services and hence urged the city to get going with required upgrades.

-Qantas (likely 1st carrier)
-SIA (likely 2nd user)
-Virgin (who knows now with further deferment of deliveries)
-Korean
-Lufthansa

I'd also suspect AF could also be a user at some point.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:10 pm

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 7):

Because it skews the traffic in favor of LHR even though it is considered part of Europe.
By the way, what is the annual passenger figure for Continental Europeans to LHR?
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:11 pm

AUH
NRT
PEK
And S.Korea, Saudi Arabia, Cairo, and many other Asian & Australian cities

[Edited 2006-12-10 05:17:07]
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:22 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 28):
While certainly not set in concrete the following carriers have previously informed the City of Los Angeles that they would utilize the A380 on LAX services and hence urged the city to get going with required upgrades.

-Qantas (likely 1st carrier)
-SIA (likely 2nd user)
-Virgin (who knows now with further deferment of deliveries)
-Korean
-Lufthansa

I'd also suspect AF could also be a user at some point.

If only LAX had acted with more urgency, the upgrades would be done by now. As it stands, all those SQ and QF A380s are just flying around, waiting to land...  Wink

I also agree that AF will use the A380 to LAX on a seasonal basis.
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:08 pm

what about BOM ?? Will that be a A380 destination for SQ and EK forsure !
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:29 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 31):

Ya, with all the A380 delays, the City could certainly have taken it time even further and saved a few dollars by not rushing thru some projects...

So what was the hurry that Airbus was crying about now?  confused 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:02 pm

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 14):
Are there any possibilities of a carrier flying the A380 on schedule flights to an airport in the Caribbean?

Probably... in about 30 years when they become more affordable and Corsair lays their hands on few birds Big grin Big grin Big grin
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:05 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 33):
Ya, with all the A380 delays, the City could certainly have taken it time even further and saved a few dollars by not rushing thru some projects...

For once, the glacial pace that things get done here in SoCal has worked in our favor!!!  Smile
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:13 pm

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 4):
If one were to exclude the European Continental traffic,
where would LHR rank?
Thks.

Well, I'm not the author of that list nor do I have access to the underlying data, so I can't help you out there. Yes, the airports that primarily see lots of traffic within Europe probably wouldn't necessarily be good candidates for the A380.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:17 pm

Quoting Star_world (Reply 8):
I'm VERY suspicious about these results - Alta, Norway as number 5? {Smile} I'm even suspicious about Dublin being no. 16, but that's a different story...

Doesn't seem quite right, does it? It might be a data error, since their YTD numbers don't have Alta in the top 30:

http://www.airports.org/cda/aci/disp...?zn=aci&cp=1-5-212-1376-1379_9_2__
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:20 pm

MIA is preparing for the A380 so I think they should be on the list.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:29 pm

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 13):
I can't think of a more useless list.

How about this list--all airports with two consecutive XX's in the airport code:

YXX - Abbotsford
XXA - Alvesta
AXX - Angel Fire
BXX - Borama
XXJ - Budapest
HXX - Hay
XXU - Hedemora
XXK - Katrineholm
MXX - Mora
SXX - Sao Felix Do Xingu
NXX - Willow Grove
GXX - Yagoua

That's a pretty useless list.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:29 pm

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:

1 LONDON, GB (LHR)
2 PARIS, FR (CDG)
3 FRANKFURT, DE (FRA)
4 ALTA, NO (ALF)
5 HONG KONG, CN (HKG)

In the List, ALTA, is certainely a mistake,
it should be AMS - Amsterdam. which is quoted in the monthly reports
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:07 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
ATL has already publicly stated last year that the A380 is not welcome. ATL does not want to pay for the improvements that only supports the A380 as it wouldnt benefit the other carriers serving ATL.

Which actually translates as:
"Delta can't afford one, therefore we will not allow anyone else to send
one here"
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:18 pm

I wouldn't be suprised if LH will use the A380 on it's FRA-TLV flights. However the airport would first need to upgrade it's Terminal with A380 double jet bridges
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:42 pm

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:



Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
4 ALTA, NO (ALF)

LOL

I dont even think Alta has any international traffic.
4 ALTA, NO (ALF) 45 322 334 - And this is 10 times Norways population. hehe

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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:11 pm

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3):
Top 10 US Cities to see the A380 (speculation)

No primary hub airport for a major U.S. airline is going to invest in the upgrades necessary for the A380 so that a foreign flag carrier can come in and flood the market with more seats. LAX and JFK, while small hubs for a couple of U.S. carriers are very diversified in terms of the airlines that serve them. ATL on the other hand is primarily Delta. So imagine the airport manager at ATL calling up Delta and telling them that that next year's improvements budget is going towards something that will create more competition for them. I beleive the list of A380 ready airports in the U.S. will be 4 inlcuding LAX and JFK. I dont recall the other two. Were they cargo bases?
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:39 pm

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 21):
Yea, I know. To such far away places as ORY, MAN, STN, FRA, AMS and every where else the A320 goes in Europe. Like I said, the list is useless

It´s still international traffic, plus MAD has lots of flights to Latin America.

BTW, doesn´t ORD have tons of flights to Canada, cuz that´s as far away as ORY and LHR from MAD...what a pathetic excuse.

Well, the first airports that will se them in the new continent will be JFK and LAX, followed by YUL, SFO and probably MEX or MIA.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:52 pm

I am sure once Emirates receives all it A380s that all its Australian ports will receive A380 services.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:55 pm

To me, the most likely destinations for the A-380 will be the base cities of the airlines that have it and their major destinations.
DBX, SYD, SIN, LHR, FRA, LAX, NRT (and others in Japan), JFK, Major cities in China and India, CDG, EWR, ORD, IAD, DFW, MCO, Anchorage, Johannesburg, will most probably be among them in the first 5-7 years of passenger and freight services.
Don't forget freighter destinations, which won't require the passenger handling facilities the A-380 requires. A-380's will obviously be at the bases of their respective international air freight companies and major cities they serve. Places like ATL, SEA, relatively smaller but major manufacturing cities in China, Taiwan, DET and so on, may see the A-380 mainly or perhaps only in freighter use.
 
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:40 am

Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2):
27 PALMA DE MALLORCA, ES (PMI)

Who will fly it there?
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RE: The Possible A380 Destinations!

Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:45 am

Quoting SKA380 (Reply 43):
I dont even think Alta has any international traffic.
4 ALTA, NO (ALF) 45 322 334 - And this is 10 times Norways population. hehe

That certainly seems to be a mistake about Alta.

Population and traffic can't necessarily be correlated, though--for example, Singapore:

traffic: 32,446,691
population: 4,480,000