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Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:02 am

I tried several searches here, but I couldn't find any topics on the matter. I just flew through MEM today and saw a Airtran plane on the ground with a white tent over the front part of the plane. It looked like a 737, but I was very far away.

Anyone know anything about this?
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:12 am

Painting Santa on the nose?



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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:27 am

The only thing the remotely comes to mind is a possible L1 or R1 windshield change (if a 737), but the weather is so dang good at the moment. they wouldn't really need it to keep rain out of the cockpit nor is it so hot as to require some shade..
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:40 am

All FL operates to MEM is 717's out of ATL. I talked with my buddy at FL to see if he heard anything going on out of MEM yesterday or today and he said all Flt Ops were smooth.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:19 am

This may be the plane that they taxied off the pavement into a ditch recently. I read somewhere that it was being written off due to the damage it incurred. Oh and I do believe it is a 717.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:26 am

I'll be out there later tonight, i'll see if i can see anything.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:38 am

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 4):
This may be the plane that they taxied off the pavement into a ditch recently.

Bingo.

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 4):
read somewhere that it was being written off due to the damage it incurred. Oh and I do believe it is a 717.

I hadn't heard that one.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:45 am

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 4):
This may be the plane that they taxied off the pavement into a ditch recently. I read somewhere that it was being written off due to the damage it incurred. Oh and I do believe it is a 717.



Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 6):
I hadn't heard that one.

I didn't see it listed in the FAA prelim accident info. Any idea when it happened?
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:47 am

something like 6-8 weeks ago...dude left landing gear a few hundred feet behind him from what I heard...

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:57 am

Here it is folks :

NTSB Identification: ATL07LA016
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of AirTran Airways, Inc
Accident occurred Friday, November 10, 2006 in Memphis, TN
Aircraft: Boeing 717-200, registration: N956AT
Injuries: 69 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On November 10, 2006, at 2312 central standard time, a Boeing 717-200, N956AT, registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee and operated by AirTran Airways, Inc., as flight 527, taxied into a ditch and collapsed the nose landing gear after landing at Memphis International Airport, Memphis, Tennessee. The scheduled domestic passenger flight was operated under the provisions of Title 14 CFR Part 121 with an instrument flight plan filed. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed. The airline transport-rated captain, airline transport-rated first officer, three flight attendants, and 64 passengers were not injured, and the airplane was substantially damaged. The flight originated from the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, Atlanta, Georgia, on November 10, 2006, at 2305 eastern standard time.

The first officer stated that she landed on runway 36R and was instructed by the tower controller to "make the next left turn, cross 36C on kilo, and taxi to the ramp on this frequency." The first officer stated that, once the airplane was clear of runway 36C and established on the taxiway, it was the appropriate time to be "heads-down" and complete the checklist. The captain stated that he saw gate C16 to his left and turned the airplane towards the terminal. The captain further stated that he "thought he was on the ramp pavement" and began to turn the airplane to the right. The crew stated they did not realize that the airplane had rolled off the taxiway until they felt the impact of the nose landing gear.

Examination of the accident site by an FAA inspector revealed that the airplane was located in the grass median off the right side of taxiway Charlie, approximately 100 feet south of taxiway kilo. The nose landing gear assembly had impacted a concrete drainage ditch and was separated from the trunnion and collapsed. The airplane's forward pressure bulkhead was punctured and buckled.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:58 am

Quoting Foxecho (Reply 8):
something like 6-8 weeks ago...dude left landing gear a few hundred feet behind him from what I heard...

Right you are...

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20061117X01683&key=1

Hope it's repairable...
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:01 am

NTSB has a preliminary synopsis up: http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20061117X01683&key=1

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:57 am

We have been told its going to be parted out and scraped.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:05 am

Wouldn't this be the first 717 scrapped?

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:07 am

Hmmmm...Delta ripped the gear off an MD88 at LGA 11-12 years ago and repaired it.
Interesting how they could just scrap it when the A/C is relatively young.
Are they looking to get rid of the B717 fleet???

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:11 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 1):
Painting Santa on the nose?

Nice, Kind of reminds me of my Christmas cards. Except Santa is riding a plane not smushed on its nose. What airline flys that plane? What kind of plane is it?
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:31 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Nice, Kind of reminds me of my Christmas cards. Except Santa is riding a plane not smushed on its nose. What airline flys that plane? What kind of plane is it?

It looks to be Ryanair and a 737 model
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting N352SW (Reply 9):
Here it is folks :

NTSB Identification: ATL07LA016
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of AirTran Airways, Inc
Accident occurred Friday, November 10, 2006 in Memphis, TN
Aircraft: Boeing 717-200, registration: N956AT
Injuries: 69 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On November 10, 2006, at 2312 central standard time, a Boeing 717-200, N956AT, registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee and operated by AirTran Airways, Inc., as flight 527, taxied into a ditch and collapsed the nose landing gear after landing at Memphis International Airport, Memphis, Tennessee. The scheduled domestic passenger flight was operated under the provisions of Title 14 CFR Part 121 with an instrument flight plan filed. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed. The airline transport-rated captain, airline transport-rated first officer, three flight attendants, and 64 passengers were not injured, and the airplane was substantially damaged. The flight originated from the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, Atlanta, Georgia, on November 10, 2006, at 2305 eastern standard time.

The first officer stated that she landed on runway 36R and was instructed by the tower controller to "make the next left turn, cross 36C on kilo, and taxi to the ramp on this frequency." The first officer stated that, once the airplane was clear of runway 36C and established on the taxiway, it was the appropriate time to be "heads-down" and complete the checklist. The captain stated that he saw gate C16 to his left and turned the airplane towards the terminal. The captain further stated that he "thought he was on the ramp pavement" and began to turn the airplane to the right. The crew stated they did not realize that the airplane had rolled off the taxiway until they felt the impact of the nose landing gear.

Examination of the accident site by an FAA inspector revealed that the airplane was located in the grass median off the right side of taxiway Charlie, approximately 100 feet south of taxiway kilo. The nose landing gear assembly had impacted a concrete drainage ditch and was separated from the trunnion and collapsed. The airplane's forward pressure bulkhead was punctured and buckled.

Wow. I wonder why Airtran hasn't published a safety memo on this!!
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Nice, Kind of reminds me of my Christmas cards. Except Santa is riding a plane not smushed on its nose. What airline flys that plane? What kind of plane is it?

I love that picture, I put it as my background on my computer every year. I believe its a Ryanair 732...long since retired.  Sad

Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 17):
Wow. I wonder why Airtran hasn't published a safety memo on this!!

Is a safety memo telling pilots to watch where they drive the airplane really necessary?  Smile
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:20 pm

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 18):
believe its a Ryanair 732

Nope, look at the pitot tubes. They are more forward than the classic's pitot tube. Thats a 737NG.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:31 pm

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Nice, Kind of reminds me of my Christmas cards. Except Santa is riding a plane not smushed on its nose. What airline flys that plane? What kind of plane is it?



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 16):
It looks to be Ryanair and a 737 model



Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 18):
I love that picture, I put it as my background on my computer every year. I believe its a Ryanair 732...long since retired.

This is correct. They don't do it anymore..instead O'Leary spends his time painting protest messages about his competitors on the side of his 737s. I think the most recent santa paint job is this one:


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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:50 pm

The 717 is under the tent and is being repaired. Total time down for repair is expected to be 30-45 days. Thankfully no one was injured. Apparently this is not the first time this has happened at MEM in that location of the taxiway, so I am sure there will be some investigation into the runway and lighting, also i heard that it was raining when this happened.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:01 pm

Would much of these repairs be done by Boeing/MD people at MEM? I suggest this as the pressure bulkhead was damaged and from past similar circumstances, Boeing will usually be involved in such major repairs.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:20 pm

Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 20):

Thats not the same aircraft type as you posted like AsstChiefMark has in his post #1. Again, look at the pitot tubes, they're not the same.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:47 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 22):
Would much of these repairs be done by Boeing/MD people at MEM? I suggest this as the pressure bulkhead was damaged and from past similar circumstances, Boeing will usually be involved in such major repairs.

You're most likely correct, with repairs of this magnitude. Boeing did the repairs on our N471WN at MDW as well...
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:13 pm

If i'm not mistaken, the A/C in question was parked on the north end of the Signature ramp. Have they moved the A/C, or did they just pop a tent over it on the Signature ramp?
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:20 pm

I was told that the parts are so valuable that FL wants the aircraft scrapped because they are expecting another 6 717's from jetstar but, will always need parts.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:34 pm

Quoting B757capt (Reply 26):
I was told that the parts are so valuable that FL wants the aircraft scrapped

Could be, but the tent suggests repair rather than disassembly. More important might be the issue of what the aircraft's lessor wants the carrier to do. The aircraft is registered to Wells Fargo as Trustee, which might mean that it is pledged as security for a loan, but also might mean that it's leased. Odds are that it's leased, given that as of 12/31/05, at least, Airtran owned eight (8) 717s and leased seventy-seven (77) of them, for a total of 85. The lessor owns the aircraft, and it's common in leases to require the lessee to return the aircraft in a specified, flyable condition. This is how Disney (or Northwestern Mutual, but I think it was Disney) forced Delta to pay to repair one of its (leased) MD11s rather than scapping it after that nasty engine fire on the ramp at ATL. After fixing it, DL rejected the lease in bankruptcy and Disney sold it to UPS. (Amazing, BTW, who invests in airframes, isn't it?)

In any event, Airtran could always buy it from the lessor and part it out or whatever -- deals are always possible in business regardless of what the documents say -- but the lessor probably has the right, which it looks like it may be exercising, to force Airtran to repair the plane. How happy Airtran will be flying an aircraft with a repaired pressure bulkhead will depend on the nature of the damage and the repair. "Boeing-repaired pressure bulkhead" certainly conjures up one particular very unhappy memory for many people in the aviation community, but for that reason it is self-evident that extra care would be taken with the engineering and performance of any repair of this nature.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:25 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 23):
Thats not the same aircraft type as you posted like AsstChiefMark has in his post #1. Again, look at the pitot tubes, they're not the same

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:38 pm

Anyone at FL know the nose number of N956AT?

I used to have a printout off the AirTran "Today" website of all ship info (it's somewhere in the MX QA section), but I lost it in the move.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:59 pm

Anyone at FL know the nose number of N956AT?

716.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:31 pm

Ship 716 is getting repaired. There are no plans to scrap it.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:49 pm

Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 14):
Hmmmm...Delta ripped the gear off an MD88 at LGA 11-12 years ago and repaired it.
Interesting how they could just scrap it when the A/C is relatively young.
Are they looking to get rid of the B717 fleet???

Yeah, but I don't think it that airplane's pressure bulkhead was breached.

And no, AirTran is NOT looking to "get rid of the B717 fleet".
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:47 am

I love all the speculation on here. Since I used to fly for FL, and was involved in a few incidents myself... The plane was preliminarily said to be parted out. But it now looks like it's being repaired. I think that's great. Obviously it was not as bad as originally thought. As to the report being published... It will be on a safety board in the inflight lounge. And pilots will no doubt be issued a bulletin for their manuals. Unfortunate for the plane, but fortunate that no one was hurt. One of the members of my church was on that plane. Havne't talked to her yet. But I will have the information straight from the horse's mouth.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:00 am

Quoting Gr8SlvrFlt (Reply 30):
Anyone at FL know the nose number of N956AT?

716.

I have a history with 739...if any B717 on the planet were to be parted out...I would want it to be FL Ship 739.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:37 am

 ghost 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:04 am

Quoting JayDub (Reply 34):

Aircraft 318 has made my POS list........
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:08 am

I saw that plane a couple of weeks ago at the Signature ramp. At the time there was no tent over it. There was no nosegear and the front was on jacks. Also, both the engines were removed. I wasn't sure what had happened at the time. I'm glad someone solved that mystery for me.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting B757capt (Reply 36):
Aircraft 318 has made my POS list........

When I worked for them a number of years back, 706 made my "s" list because it came in broke one morning and the flight myself killed a day trip I had planned. Then for a time just about everyday it came into one of the gates I worked at, it would have some sort of MX issue.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 13):
Wouldn't this be the first 717 scrapped?

Nope, as the first 717 built, Ship 5001 (N717XA), is in the process of being parted out. It was never intended to be converted to passenger use like the other 4 test a/c (N717XB-XE).
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting AirTran717 (Reply 33):
I love all the speculation on here. Since I used to fly for FL, and was involved in a few incidents myself... The plane was preliminarily said to be parted out. But it now looks like it's being repaired.

No speculation at all!
As you mentioned, the plane was going to be parted out - and some posted they were told just that, as you did. Others mentioned it was being repaired - and some also posted that, as you did!

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:21 am

795 is on my shit list. I tore a hole in the wing of that old girl back in 2003. It wasn't my fault, and I don't feel like explaining the whole thing, but everytime she came to MKE after that she had a problem.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 40):
I tore a hole in the wing of that old girl back in 2003. It wasn't my fault...

That's quite an accomplishment. Aircraft damage hardly ever is the fault of the aircraft; that leaves one other possible culprit.

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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:38 pm

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 38):
Quoting B757capt (Reply 36):
Aircraft 318 has made my POS list........

When I worked for them a number of years back, 706 made my "s" list because it came in broke one morning and the flight myself killed a day trip I had planned. Then for a time just about everyday it came into one of the gates I worked at, it would have some sort of MX issue.

318 is an aircraft that has APU problems all the time. It was on the delivery flight from boeing and the APU died on taxiout. Ramp return and delayed the flight 2 days. The POS still does shit. I beg the folks at Aircraft routing to keep it away from us. When they don't I make sure our airstart works
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:54 pm

Quoting Jjbiv (Reply 41):
That's quite an accomplishment. Aircraft damage hardly ever is the fault of the aircraft; that leaves one other possible culprit.

I didn't want to get into it, but after a lengthy investigation I was absolved of any blame for the accident due to the Air Wisconsin mechanic who was wing walking for me. So it wasn't my fault.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:18 pm

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 43):
I didn't want to get into it, but after a lengthy investigation I was absolved of any blame for the accident due to the Air Wisconsin mechanic who was wing walking for me. So it wasn't my fault.

Congratulations!
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:08 pm

Generally aircraft damage occurs when the ramp agent is either being:

a) careless

or

b) careless
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:41 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 45):
Generally aircraft damage occurs when the ramp agent is either being:

a) careless

or

b) careless

Or C has a dumbshit mechanic wing walking for him who gives him an all clear signal. Therefore not the rampers fault. You trust your wing walkers. They are dupposed to protect you, not become lazy and not pay attention.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:38 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 39):
Quoting AirTran717 (Reply 33):
I love all the speculation on here. Since I used to fly for FL, and was involved in a few incidents myself... The plane was preliminarily said to be parted out. But it now looks like it's being repaired.

No speculation at all!
As you mentioned, the plane was going to be parted out - and some posted they were told just that, as you did. Others mentioned it was being repaired - and some also posted that, as you did!

Jimbo

I know there is always people saying this or that is what is going to happen, But Ship 716 was never to be parted. When it first happened the immediate response was get it fixed we need this plane in service. Ofcourse it was asked if it was salvagable and the first and only answer was yes, There was never a decision made to part this plane out. Within 2 days they were already setting up the field team to come out for repair.
 
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:06 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 45):
Generally aircraft damage occurs when the ramp agent is either being:



Quoting Jjbiv (Reply 44):
Congratulations!



Quoting Jjbiv (Reply 41):
That's quite an accomplishment. Aircraft damage hardly ever is the fault of the aircraft; that leaves one other possible culprit.

In the short amount of time I worked with Tom, I noticed he was very laid back, but also VERY careful about his job. He was never one who was lazy and I doubt he would ever lie about that incident.
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RE: Airtran Plane Under Tent At MEM

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 48):
In the short amount of time I worked with Tom, I noticed he was very laid back, but also VERY careful about his job. He was never one who was lazy and I doubt he would ever lie about that incident.

I just think it's odd that someone would talk about being involved in an aircraft damage incident on the internet...whether the person is responsible or not. But to each his/her own.

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