PRGLY
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Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:33 pm

Just announced by local media, Czech Airlines is axeing flights to DXB due non profitability of the route. Move corresponds with earlier decision of CSA managment not to replace longhaul fleet. Hope EK will replace them soon.
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:08 am

Well their A310's are ageing so the decisions for Long Haul fleet replacement must come in the next couple of years?
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:12 am

OK used to fly to CMB via DXB. Has that stopped already?
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:51 am

They stopped CMB in APR06. On the top of DXB they will also axe EDI, ORK and SJJ. According summer 07 draft they plan to open PRG-MXP-BOD v.v. New type will enter fleet in S07 - 319 - 2 frames planned for delivery (OK-MEK,OK-MEL) and 3 320 (OK-MEH,MEI,MEJ).
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:55 am

I saw 290 Euro fare recently for DUB-PRG-DXB which indicated that this route was under performing.

What will they do with 5 new airplanes if they are axing the schedule. Will they retire 737s?
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:13 am

Quoting Danny (Reply 4):
I saw 290 Euro fare recently for DUB-PRG-DXB which indicated that this route was under performing.

Fligts to DXb will be axed eff 08JAN07.
S07 schedule shows increasing of frequencies on a lot of destination. I received it only today and have to work it out to give you detailed info. But sure some 737 will be retired.
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:01 am

For me their flights from DXB on the specific days they flew weren't viable. I had to go to PRG from the ME a couple of months ago and i decided to go cargo plane to BRU and then Sabena/CSA to PRG so i can understand the low load factors.
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:17 am

Too bad, im sure not many will miss OK and their old A310s. Maybe EK can fill the void with an A330 service?

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 5):
But sure some 737 will be retired

Im sure there will be takers on those birds  wink  IIRC they were some of the last 737Classics off the line.

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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 7):
Im sure there will be takers on those birds IIRC they were some of the last 737Classics off the line

it's make me feel sad, liked very much the 737 classics, i made many flights with some 737 classics with VASP of Brazil.

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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 1):
Well their A310's are ageing so the decisions for Long Haul fleet replacement must come in the next couple of years?

....they have make decision within a couple of month. Or they will just discontinue long haul ops.
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:26 am

How is PRG-BEY doing? If they are cutting of DXB, why not BEY? Who would go to BEY and not DXB?
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:31 am

OK-FGS was the last 737 classic built

Quoting PRGDLGUY (Reply 9):
they have make decision within a couple of month. Or they will just discontinue long haul ops.

I m affraid that the decision was done already, few weeks ago it was published that no new longhaul equipment will be purchased. But who knows, last change of government can mean also change of managment and change of mind. Present managment does not look very professional IMHO and change would be just good step to improve position of this airline, which is going to celebrate 85th anniversary in 2008, and I hope they will.
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:33 am

Quoting Meacedar (Reply 10):
How is PRG-BEY doing? If they are cutting of DXB, why not BEY? Who would go to BEY and not DXB

They plan for S07 5 weekly rotations again, so it seems going well, but I would not mind to see MEA here in PRG, not at all.
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:51 am

Quoting Meacedar (Reply 10):
How is PRG-BEY doing? If they are cutting of DXB, why not BEY? Who would go to BEY and not DXB?

BEY is doing well for CSA, flew them to BEY twice, always full with pasengers to France, eastern europe, germany and the UK
DXB is now becoming a low yield destination as competition is getting tougher and tougher
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:32 pm

Perhaps this will be the golden opportunity for EK to do the much awaited double sector DXB-VIE-PRG. However, they might need to use a different equipment on this. Perhaps a 772 and during peak periods a 773/77W?

I have flown CSA several times and cannot really complain. I agree with you PRGLY, the current management is not the best they could have picked.

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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:04 pm

Pity about OK's shrinking routes and even more about their 310s. Looks like AI, PIA, BG and RJ will be the only ones still bringing these into DXB.
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:14 pm

Hopefully the American routes won't be touched.....or will they?
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:45 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 16):
Hopefully the American routes won't be touched.....or will they?

If current management will keep the line and will not replace ageing 310 fleet it can happen that OK will disappear from North American skyes after 40 years. Utilization of 310 is very high reaching about 14,5 hours daily in the air and first frames were purchased in 1991 so they should be very close to their limits soon. Very very sad. Just for a.nuts in ME CSA will operate KWI in S07 using 320, so they are not going to vaporize from there totaly.
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:53 pm

Just went trough the drafts and S07 in PRG according slot conference should look like this:
CSA/OK
OSR 26w AT4/AT7/735
BRQ 13w AT4
JFK 7w 310
YYZ 5w 310
YUL 4w 310
CAI 3w 320
TLV 7w 320
BEY up to 6w 320 (in high season)
KWI 2w 320 (15JUN-16SEP)
LCA up to 6w 320/734 in high season
SKG 7w 319
ATH 14w 320/734
IST 6w 735
OSL 13w 735/734
HEL 7w 320
ARN 12w 734/735
CPH 13w 734/735
TXL 12w AT7
CGN 6w AT4
DUS 13w 319/735
FRA 13w 320/735/734
MUC 13w At4
STR 13w AT4/AT7
HAJ 11w AT4/AT7
ZRH 14w 735/319
VIE 13w AT4
AMS 25w 320/734/735
BRU 13w 319/320/735/734
MAN 13w 735
LHR 20w 734
STN 13w 735
DUB 13w 735
BCN 7w 320
MRS-BCN 7w 734
MAD 19w 319/320
FCO 13w 734
BLQ 14w AT4/AT7/735
VCE 7w AT4/AT7
MXP-BOD 7w 734
CDG 27w 320/319/734/735
KRK 13w AT4/AT7
WAW 19w 734/735/AT4
BUD 20w AT4/AT7/735
OTP 13w 734/735
ZAG 11w AT4/AT7
SPU 2w 320
LJU 12w AT4
BEG 5w 734
SKP 5w 735
SOF 12w 734/320
MSQ 4w 735
VNO 14w 734/735
TLL 14w 735
RIX 14w 735
LED 5w 320
SVO 16w 320
KUF 4w 319
SVX 4w 320
KBP 7w 320
ODS 7w 319
EVN 5w 319/320
SLD 6w AT4
ILZ 6w AT4
BTS 26w AT4/AT7
KSC 26w AT&/735
BWE 10w AT4 - flights for VW
regular charters will be operated to CFU, LRM,VRA,PMV,HRG,SSH,TCP,AYT,DLM,BJV,HER,PVK,ZTH,RHO.KGS,SMI,EFL,CHQ,VOL,PMI,BIO,SVQ,VLC,IBZ,MAH,SCQ,LPA.MIR,DJE,CAG,OLB,BOJ and VAR

News from other carriers operating to PRG - just comparison with S06
E8 5w 100 from VCE and NAP
EI new 3w 320 from ORK
VV new freq from KBP (will be 7w)
I9 3w 733 from VRN
KF 3w M90/AR8 from HEL
BA adding 4th daily freq from LHR
FB 3rd flight from SOR and adding 2w from BOJ
XG 7w 320 from BCN
DL 6w 763 from ATL (already discussed here)
LH new daily service from STR with CR1
U2 new 2d 319 from MXP, new 1d 319 from MAD
DS new 1d 319 from GVA
B4 2nd daily flight from GLA
LS 7w from BLK, &w from EDI - both 733
KD 7w 733 from KGD
IG 4w 319/M82 from FLR/CAG
SN addong 4th d freq from BRU
LX 7w BSL AR8, 7w GVA AR8
NE opens AGP,MAD,LIS,SOF,BBU,SKG,BRU,PMO,BLQ,RMI,OLB,TRN,CPH,BOJ,VAR
TP 4 new weekly flights from LIS (ttl 7)
TOM 3w LTN and 4w BOH
QS opens DME,LCA,AGP
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:55 pm

PRGLY, you seem to have very good connections/info on CSA. Would you know if they plan to replace A310s with A330s?
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:02 pm

Quoting Emirates2005 (Reply 19):
PRGLY, you seem to have very good connections/info on CSA. Would you know if they plan to replace A310s with A330s?

As I have mentioned not in the near future, but I do expect change of managment soon and may be than.
Emirates2005 - you seem to have very good connection/info on EK. Would you know if they plan to open PRG? I ve send them my C.V. year ago and except of confirmation letter no other news received. Thanks
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:41 am

Quoting TERRA (Reply 6):
i decided to go cargo plane to BRU

What does this mean? Did you use a cargo airline?

Quoting Meacedar (Reply 10):
Who would go to BEY and not DXB?

Are you serious? BEY is a FAR better place to spend time in than DXB - despite the summer events.
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 18):
NE opens AGP,MAD,LIS,SOF,BBU,SKG,BRU,PMO,BLQ,RMI,OLB,TRN,CPH,BOJ,VAR

Looks like a sizable expansion of Sky Europe in Praha. I guess this in on top of the existing AMS,ATH,BCN,CTA,NAP,DBV,SPU,BGY,NCE,ORY,FCO. How many aircraft based in PRG does it make ?
 
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting Konrad (Reply 22):
How many aircraft based in PRG does it make ?

now 2 73W based in PRG but expansion is planned. Yes they will maintain actual schedule plus new destinations in S07. Guess they will need 2 additional aircarfts to cover all planned traffic.
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:12 am

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 18):
JFK 7w 310

no EWR like this year?
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RE: Czech Airlines To Stop DXB

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:13 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 24):
no EWR like this year?

Sorry to say, but no EWR, they leave it for CO.
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