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Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:09 am

http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...ichten-2006-12/artikel-7445840.asp

Mmmh? Guggenheim? I was in their museum in NY once, didn't realise they had an airline.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:17 am

Well this is probably the three 777F that showed up last month as many here had suspected.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1):

Being able to read is clearly an advantage:

The order was previously accounted for on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries web site and attributed to an unidentified customer.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:20 am

Almost 50 frames sold... not bad for a freighter, that wasn't launched to long ago!!!
 
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:22 am

Quoting Thorben (Thread starter):
http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...ichten-2006-12/artikel-7445840.asp

Mmmh? Guggenheim? I was in their museum in NY once, didn't realise they had an airline.

I guess nobody told Guggenheim that the 777 was "moribund."  Wink
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 4):
I guess nobody told Guggenheim that the 777 was "moribund." Wink

Maybe they needed them before 2017.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:45 am

Almost 50 frames sold... not bad for a freighter, that wasn't launched to long ago!!!
 
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:45 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
Maybe they needed them before 2017.

It's hard to call an aircraft "moribund" and doomed when its competitor won't see an EIS for a decade. For many airlines, that is enough service for them to justify the purchase and have it fully amortized.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
It's hard to call an aircraft "moribund" and doomed when its competitor won't see an EIS for a decade. For many airlines, that is enough service for them to justify the purchase and have it fully amortized.

Yes, the EIS for the A350 goes further and further into the future. However, the EIS for the first pax version is already in seven years, less than a decade.

An A330F would make the life of the 777F harder but Airbus seems to be hesitant, because pax A330s do so well.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:00 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 8):
An A330F would make the life of the 777F harder but Airbus seems to be hesitant, because pax A330s do so well.

Where did you get the idea than an A330F would have that effect on the 777F? The 777F has 50% more payload at similar densities than the A330-200F. They are in different markets. If anything, they are complementary.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:22 am

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q4/061212a_nr.html

Great purchase. So Guggenheim will now have 777Fs and 748s.
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RE: Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F

Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:29 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 2):
Being able to read is clearly an advantage:

Boor...  Yeah sure

Quoting Thorben (Reply 8):
An A330F would make the life of the 777F harder but
Airbus seems to be hesitant, because pax A330s do so well.

Probably not. The 777F is in a totally different class of freighters as the A332.