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UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:10 am

Just out on Bloomberg. Headline so far. They're studying replacements for older WB jets.

IMO, I think Boeing will have an advantage here because of possible earlier delivery dates.

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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
IMO, I think Noeing will have an advantage here because of possible earlier delivery dates

Noeing? Who are they? I agree with you that Boeing will have the advantage on this one. The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:13 am

How many 747 do they have? Couldnt find it on their website. The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 2):
How many 747 do they have? Couldnt find it on their website. The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.

The could but I'm not sure if UA is ready to go into the 744 replacement market just yet. I think they want to focus on the 767 replacement. They might even go to the 787-10 for the 772A replacement as well.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):

Noeing? Who are they? I agree with you that Boeing will have the advantage on this one. The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.

The El doesn't go that far, but the Metra does.

Anyhow, I agree -- BCA has the edge here.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 2):
How many 747 do they have? Couldnt find it on their website. The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.

Most of UA's Jumbos could be replaced by A350s or B787s flying more frequencies. UA have 7 routes that, due to government restrictions, require a VLA. A fleet of 12 would be needed to fly those 7 routes daily.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):
The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.

Pretty quick it'll be down the street!
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:27 am

I would have thought the 773ER would be a better choice for UAL, since there is commonality between them and the 77W is more economic, but in particular, how many routes do they actually need the capacity of the 744 for? By having an aircraft with a smaller Y Class and focusing on the Business end, they're not so reliant on lower yield traffic; the capacity difference between the 77W -v- that of the 744 would mostly be made up of Y Class seats, so why have the exposure.

As for the 787, a perfect replacement for the 763s (788) and early 772s (787-9/10).

I see this going Boeing, but given A's relationship with UAL, they will fight very hard to get the 350 on board.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:28 am

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 2):
The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.

I would think the 773ER has the edge over the 748i for UA, considering their massive 777 fleet...I hope I'm wrong - I'd love a UA 748i.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 3):
I think they want to focus on the 767 replacement. They might even go to the 787-10 for the 772A replacement as well.

If we're talking 767 replacement, I'd say the 787 will win handsdown. If we're talking 772 replacement, I'd say it is way too early for a clear choice between the 787-10 and A350XWB.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:29 am

Home town airline, home town aircraft manufacturer (technically, I don't recognize Boeing's move to Chicago.)

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
The El doesn't go that far, but the Metra does

Or they could meet at T1
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:30 am

From what I've read here, Boeing will get the deal, earlier delivery dates and all.

It has been the concensus here at a.net that UA's plan seems to focus on Airbus for narrowbody routes (the 320's and 319's are proving QUITE successful at transcons!), while Boeing gets the nod for wide-body routes.

The 787 medium model (the -8?) will be a perfect replacement for the 767, exactly what it was designed to do. The flexibility of the larger and smaller 787's will allow fleet commonality (always an advantage) as well as cross-trained flight crews.

As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787.  cloudnine 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:35 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
They're studying replacements for older WB jets

What news is there in this? If they are saying an order is imminent that's one thing, but it would be fair to say that every airline on the planet with a need for widebodies is studying the A350 and B787, and most will eventually make a decision. Might as well have a generic "who is likely to pick which?" thread, or start a series focusing on each carrier:

AA: A350 or B787?
DL: A350 or B787?
UA: A350 or B787? and so on.

As for UA, the B788 is the better replacement for their 767's as I don't see them looking to grow capacity via larger aircraft...but what pricing might Airbus offer? We can debate the merits of the aircraft, but each airline will decide based on economics - if the price is right, the less preferred aircraft may still win the order.

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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787

You do realise it's just going to be like any other plane with the same passengers and the same crappy food? B787-A350, B748-A380 or even B737-A320, does it really matter? They are all as crap as each other in real terms and you'll be bored after a few hours aloft.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:39 am

I have been listening to the webcast of the investor meeting in Chicago, during the presentation of the VP of Financial Planning and Analysis, she stated that United is looking at the 787 and A350 XWB for possible widebody replacement and A320 and 737NG for narrowbody. No mention of any other aircraft ie A380, 747-8, 777ER. United will not be needing new airplanes at the earliest 2012-2015.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 9):
(technically, I don't recognize Boeing's move to Chicago.)

That's alright, since the company, shareholders, lawyers, and media do. I think you should simply view the current Boeing as what they are— a holding company for the former Boeing along with McDonnell, North American, and most of Hughes.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:46 am

I don´t know, Airbus could use some good news and will fight hard on this one.
A second customer from the US would help them a lot and United might be the only chance for Airbus (NW and CO already have ordered the 787 and will likely merge, AA and Delta are highly unlikely to choose Airbus at all)
At the moment Boeing seems to be the most likely option for UA but I would say it is too early to predict the outcome of this race.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:46 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787.

I would if I could justify the expense and the destination to the wife she's the boss!!!  box 

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 11):
What news is there in this?

Well seeing that UA is out of CH. 11 and they have $4bn in cash ($1bn to be used to reduce debtload). They are now going out there and saying they intend to undertake a fleet renewal program.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:49 am

Quoting Skytony (Reply 13):
United is looking at the 787 and A350 XWB for possible widebody replacement and A320 and 737NG for narrowbody. No mention of any other aircraft ie A380, 747-8, 777ER. United will not be needing new airplanes at the earliest 2012-2015.

Well it owuld make sense to stick with the 32X for short haul. Perhaps Airbus will be keen to get a large US customer for the A350XWB and offer them at a price that UA would be stupid to refuse... I don't see this as a sure boeing win at all
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 12):
You do realise it's just going to be like any other plane with the same passengers and the same crappy food?

I think you missed the point  Yeah sure

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
IMO, I think Boeing will have an advantage here because of possible earlier delivery dates.

Well, not too much earlier than the A350, but I suspect Boeing could provide 2011-2012 delivery slots depending on when UAL makes their decision.

I would strongly favor Boeing for this order. The A350-800 is ill positioned to replace the 767-300 being nearly 30% larger than their 200-seat configuration.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:57 am

I see an Airbus order so impossible as Some saw a Boeing order of Part of LH 2 week ago... They´ll never order Airbus
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):
I would strongly favor Boeing for this order. The A350-800 is ill positioned to replace the 767-300 being nearly 30% larger than their 200-seat configuration.

That's another strongreason why UA cold go to Boeing. The nconsequently they could buy the -9 or -10 for the 772A replacment. The -10 will have amazing economics vs the 772A.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:59 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 19):
They´ll never order Airbus

Well UA has ordered Airbus before. They have a lot of A32Xs with more on order. If you're talking about the Widebody order, I think it's tipped in Boeing's favor because the 787-8 matches well as a 767-300 replacement.

Does anyone know if UA have any 767-200s?
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:01 am

One thing that remains open when it comes to a future 787 fleet at UA is the engine option. All UA widebodies currently operating have only PW4000 engines, along with the 757s being powered by PW2000s. So, this could be a close race for the engine bid. I'm guessing UA will go with the GEnx due to their previous experience with the CF6 on their DC-10s. It would definitely be surprising if they pull an NW and order the Trent 1000 for their 787s, which would be great nonetheless.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:02 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 21):
If you're talking about the Widebody order, I think it's tipped

Sorry , I meant just Widebody ,
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:02 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 21):
Does anyone know if UA have any 767-200s?

They were all retired in 2004/2005.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):

Noeing? Who are they? I agree with you that Boeing will have the advantage on this one. The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.



Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 6):
Pretty quick it'll be down the street!

 checkmark ..no "EL" needed from Boeing HQ to UA future HQ (old Donnelly building)
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:10 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 16):
Well seeing that UA is out of CH. 11 and they have $4bn in cash ($1bn to be used to reduce debtload). They are now going out there and saying they intend to undertake a fleet renewal program.

$4bn certainly sounds like a pile, but then you hear that the majors need to hold something on the order of $3bn in ready cash for operational needs. Anything less and the finance people get all squirmy.

I think placing orders now for delivery in the 2012+ time frame may be wise as 787 slots continue to disappear. The flip side is huge uncertainty as to business conditions that far in the future. I'm glad it's not my call.

 point One thing to watch for: once the US legacies start to order there will be a snowball effect as they scramble to secure timely delivery slots. For example, AA may want to wait, but if they see the first available slots disappearing ever further into the future, they will have to make a leap. 2007 is going to be very interesting. smile 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:10 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):
I think you missed the point

No I got it completely. I'm saying a plane is a plane no matter how u dress it. To get excited by it is fairly lame.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:13 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 26):
For example, AA may want to wait

An AA order for the 787 is closer than a alot of people think!   

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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:22 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 27):
To get excited by it is fairly lame.

Who on Earth are you to say so? On Airliners.net of all places, you are surprised that someone would be excited to fly a new type of airplane?

By your attitude, once you have driven any car, you have driven them all. Once you've been to any beach, you've been to them all. Once you've tried ate McDonald's, there's no reason to eat a steak: beef is beef.

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 19):
I see an Airbus order so impossible as Some saw a Boeing order of Part of LH 2 week ago... They´ll never order Airbus

I don't think anyone (sensible) considers an LH Boeing order or a UA Airbus order an "impossibility."

However, UA will order Boeing for the same reason LH did: Airbus has gaps in their product line that are too large to ignore.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:24 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 28):
An AA order for the 787 is closerr than a alot of people think!

Agreed...the rumors are persistent. They've got to guess that they will have cash to pay in 2013 (or whatever), because if they don't they're pretty much toast anyway. If they wait the first slots will be 2014, or 2015, or...

The only other tactic is to sit like vultures waiting to snap up slots as some others cancel, but then they lose control over timing and likely will be paying top dollar (something AA is not accustomed to doing!). I don't see AA doing that.

All of the US legacies face these issues. If they don't order, it's an admission that they don't believe they have a future.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:32 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 30):
All of the US legacies face these issues. If they don't order, it's an admission that they don't believe they have a future.

I think you, me and Scott Carson agree...unless you're Scott Carson. I think we'll see AA move first to make an order the UA and DL in quick succession. After which then all US legacies would have ordered the next gen of widebodied twins.

787 - AA, UA, CO, DL, NW
A350 - US
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:33 am

I tend to think Boeing has the edge with this one, though the A350X-1000 could be the spoiler that moves it to Airbus, depending on how UA feels about replacing their 744 fleet.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:34 am

I really find it hard to beleive that UA would order the 350XWB over the 787. Even if Airbus throw money at the deal Boeing are unlikely to sit back and see there "next door neighbour" do such a deal. UA IMHO will play each other off and then bag a deal with Boeing.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 26):
One thing to watch for: once the US legacies start to order there will be a snowball effect as they scramble to secure timely delivery slots. For example, AA may want to wait, but if they see the first available slots disappearing ever further into the future, they will have to make a leap. 2007 is going to be very interesting

I think TeamAmerica has hit the nail on the head here; given the numbers involved, each airline will want to move first and frankly, although talk of it has been pretty quiet recently, the avalanche of orders from at least two major US carriers is going to push Boeing into considering a second line.

And it won't be US carriers only in this position; there are carriers like our own dear Aer Lingus who need a lot less (probably around 12-14) who will be saying to themselves, "let's get in before American and United order"; similarly, British Airways and others who have been actively considering the type; so ONE major US order, with the imminent prospect of another could spur other carriers - not necessarily in the US - into acting.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
It has been the concensus here at a.net that UA's plan seems to focus on Airbus for narrowbody routes (the 320's and 319's are proving QUITE successful at transcons!), while Boeing gets the nod for wide-body routes.

Seems to be the same thinking over here at AC...  Smile

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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 29):
Who on Earth are you to say so? On Airliners.net of all places, you are surprised that someone would be excited to fly a new type of airplane?

What do you man who on earth? I'm me and that is my opinion! Go swivel on it if it isn't up to scratch. I just speak out of past experience, nothing in life lives up to what you may think. It's all about the people. 787 is an inanimate object. Get over it.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:47 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 31):
I think we'll see AA move first to make an order the UA and DL in quick succession.

I AAgree... an AA 787 order will be coming first, followed by a UA 787 order (though I would bet that Airbus will try to do everything it can to grab an A350XWB order from the Friendly Skies).

But if US gets its ways and buys DL (which I think has a 50/50 chance of happening, despite my intense distaste of the mere thought of this possible hostile takeover), "Doug's New Delta" would almost certainly order the A350XWB, and maybe a few WhaleJets while they're at it.

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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:51 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 37):
"Doug's New Delta" would almost certainly order the A350XWB, and maybe a few WhaleJets while they're at it.

Not unless they could convince Boeing to go with a US-DL deal. Boeing would most certainly make any deal support contingent on US first dropping the A350 deal and picking up the 787 for themselves and DL.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:51 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 36):
787 is an inanimate object.

Doesn't look inanimate to me.... no 




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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:55 am

I think 787 is a shoe-in. Not for political reasons, but I actually think its a better fit for what UA would use it for. I think they could realistically find a highly successful home for all the existing (projected) versions of the Dreamliner.

Sometimes you have customers whose requirement is one of the major thinking streams behind an aircraft's design. Boeing recognised this and did it pro-actively with the 777. I would respectfully suggest that UA are one of the cornerstones behind the Dreamliner thinking, even if they havent really been actively involved with its design in the same way they were key with the 777. The plane is built with the US Majors very much in mind, it reflects US "Nu-Legacy" thinking and the fact that its sold so well OUTSIDE of what can be considered its "home turf" in terms of potential orders, is the real success story for Boeing here and the reason i would be buying their shares if i could.

I read somewhere that UA have a hundred 757s, and a 767s - and almost sixty 777s. You'd have to figure that all the 57s, all the 67s, and about half of the 77s will require replacement from about 2012 to 2015 - bear in mind the residual second-hand value of these types are still high, and its not difficult to envisage a three figure 787 order, likely with the same again in options.

It all comes down to the financing, and even in UA's financial quagmire, this will not prove to be a problem, assuming they are being sourced as owned and not on long-term leases. In reality we will probably see a mixture of both.

I give the A350 a very slim chance here. I just cannot see it. Politics aside its a better plane for UA than the A350 and everyone knows it. How can the A350 get in there? A massive financing deal to help with restructuring as at US? I dont see it being much better/more beneficial for UA than Boeing would be able to offer through the capital banks. UA operating the A350 is unlikely but it operating the A350 and NOT the 787 at all is impossible I would say. Delivery slots will be the kicker - if Boeing can get large numbers of 787s to UA in the right timescale, then its a no-brainer. A350 will be a fine aircraft for a lot of airlines, but for UA?

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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:57 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 39):
Doesn't look inanimate to me....

Do you know what that word actually means? Do you believe the B787 is alive?
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:02 am

It clearly is not animate, but I see the point being made; we all know that, at the end of the day, the 787 is just an airplane and will end its days, like the first 777 and early A320s, at Marana or some such breaker's yard, but the idea of new aircraft is exciting to people on this thread; I personally find the idea of lots of new 787s, 777s, A350s, A380s etc etc, very exciting and I'm looking forward to them, animate or not; that's why we're here. If airplanes didn't float our boats, we wouldn't be here.
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 42):
If airplanes didn't float our boats, we wouldn't be here.

Traveling, exchanging ideas and talking about experiences? I'm glad you see my point. I've been excited about new planes before, like nothing else mattered but whatever. It's all about money at the end of the day.
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 41):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 39):
Doesn't look inanimate to me....

Do you know what that word actually means? Do you believe the B787 is alive?

I was expecting that comment from you.... Wink

...according to Merrium-Webster Dictionary..


inanimate
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Main Entry: in·an·i·mate
Pronunciation: (")i-'na-n&-m&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin inanimatus, from Latin in- + animatus, past participle of animare to animate
1 : not animate: a : not endowed with life or spirit b : lacking consciousness or power of motion
2 : not animated or lively : DULL
- in·an·i·mate·ly adverb
- in·an·i·mate·ness noun

...so it depends on how one uses the word....you applied definintion 1, and I applied definition 2.......as I find the B787 to be both exhilarating and exiting (hence-the antonym of inanimate)

..now, if you improve your English lexicon a bit, we could avoid these precarious situations... Smile

Cheers...
"Up the Irons!"
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:13 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 44):
precarious situations

Get a room you two.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:21 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787.



I'm thinking B787 to somewhere and A380 Back. Is that possible on one carrier or would I have to swap the return flight ticket with some A-nutter. EIS might be real close for the two birds, so it would be real cool to kill two birds with one R/T ticket... (er, maybe I should reword that)
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 36):
I'm me and that is my opinion!

I'm only going to say this once, so pay attention: eeexxxaaaccctttlllyy

You're entitled to an opinion and PanAm747 isn't? Airliners.net is a site full of aviation enthusiast, and naturally some people are excited about Boeing's first new airplane in more than a decade.

If you're not, I don't care. But you can't criticize someone's opinion (as you did in Reply 12) and then claim everyone are stupid, ignorant dolts for not agreeing with you. Grow up.

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 36):
nothing in life lives up to what you may think

What, never got lucky?

[Edited 2006-12-12 21:28:15]
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 43):
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 42):
If airplanes didn't float our boats, we wouldn't be here.

Traveling, exchanging ideas and talking about experiences? I'm glad you see my point. I've been excited about new planes before, like nothing else mattered but whatever. It's all about money at the end of the day

LOL you are a mancunian bundle of laughs at the moment - whats gotten into you, and have you done a thread about it in non-av?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:24 am

Folks, can we please return to the topic of UAL and the 787/A350 "phantom RFPs" before the moderators come in and close the thread?