AA767400
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B6 An STI?

Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:12 pm

With B6 pulling out of SDQ a while back, why did they stick with STI?

Both destinations have the same O&D and cargo issues. Why did they feel that sticking with STI was better? Is it because of a contract with the airport there?

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luv2fly
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RE: B6 An STI?

Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:16 pm

STI is what airport code?
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:22 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 1):
STI is what airport code?

Santiago, Dominican Republic
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:50 am

Neeleman said at the last pocket session that despite the weight restrictions, baggage issues, they are very pleased with Santiago. I have heard many explanations about pulling out of SDQ, ranging from weight restrictions to corruption at the station. Who knows for sure?

According to the Dominicans, STI isn't as big a VFR market as SDQ. I've noticed more tourists lately on our STI flights going to resorts in the northern region.
 
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:47 am

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 3):
According to the Dominicans, STI isn't as big a VFR market as SDQ. I've noticed more tourists lately on our STI flights going to resorts in the northern region.

It is just as big a VFR market. However, it acts as alternate airport for nearby Puerto Plata.
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:13 am

STI, for some reason, has been extremely successful lately. Every since June those flights have been going out FULL - even throughout September and October, which are typically very slow months. Over the summer STI was operated twice daily on Thursdays through Sundays as well.

SDQ is more of a tourist destination while STI is more of a VFR destination.

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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:18 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 5):

SDQ is more of a tourist destination while STI is more of a VFR destination.

SDQ is in no way a tourist destination, although STI is neither. They are both VFR destinations. PUJ and POP are the tourist destinations. The difference between Santiago and Santo Domingo is that residents of Santiago are, on average, significantly wealthier. Santiago de Caballero is one of the wealthiest, most middle-class cities in the Caribbean. If you were to look at a picture of a typical Santiago suburb, you would swear it was Anytown, USA.
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:29 am

My parents are from the Dominican Republic. They are from Santiago and we have a home in the province.

One of the reasons STI is so successful, in my opinion, and from what I hear by many of my relatives in the Dominican Republican... is that the airport is situated in a such a convinient place.

Years ago, in order to fly to the US, a long 3 hour drive up north to Puerto Plata (which included driving over the dangerous mountains) was required or a 4-5 hour trip to Santo Domingo. Ever since STI was created a few years ago, this travel time has been reduced significantly and many Dominicans who live in the center of the country, find the airport a great modern, same airfare range price, and locality to be a great plus!
 
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:44 am

Santiago is also the 2nd biggest city in the Dominican Republic with over 1.3 million people just under Santo Domingo with more than 3 million. STI has, compared to SDQ, a relatively lower amount of competition form other airlines.

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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:56 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 5):
SDQ is more of a tourist destination while STI is more of a VFR destination.

Far from it. SDQ/STI or both huge VFR markets. Always have been.

POP/PUJ/LRM are all resort areas that cater to the leisure market.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
Santiago de Caballero

Santiago de los 30 Caballeros, Or Santiago de los Caballeros.
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:25 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
SDQ is in no way a tourist destination



Quoting AA767400 (Reply 9):
Far from it.

I disagree. I know many people around here - Long Island - that have been to Santo Domingo before. When people go to the Dominican Republic for vacation, Santo Domingo is a bigger market than STI. Perhaps this is more of a geographical thing - maybe New Yorkers go to SDQ more than Floridians do? I really don't know...

My neighbors went there (SDQ) over the summer (they're Italian, not Dominican) and when they got back they told us about the amazing nightlife and restaurants in the area. I would only assume that a city with many restaurants and an energetic nightlife would be a well-known tourist spot.

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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:28 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 10):
I disagree. I know many people around here - Long Island - that have been to Santo Domingo before. When people go to the Dominican Republic for vacation, Santo Domingo is a bigger market than STI. Perhaps this is more of a geographical thing - maybe New Yorkers go to SDQ more than Floridians do? I really don't know...

No, it isn't a New York thing. Santo Domingo is not a tourist destination at all. I know you might know some people that go there for vacation, and some people do because you can find great bargains, but it is not a tourist destination for Americans. The French and Spanish like to visit, but Americans go to Punta Cana and Puerto Plata.
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RE: B6 An STI?

Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:35 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 10):
My neighbors went there (SDQ) over the summer

And your neighbors are the few exceptions.

I work for AA. I work on the A300. I am a Spanish speaker. I have to work SDQ/STI/PUJ/POP and so on. TRUST ME, when I tell you that SDQ is not a tourist destination! So you can go to a couple of bars, and there is a nice colonial area, but Americans want all inclusive beach/bar fun. They do not want to see the real Dominican Republic, nor the sprawl that is SDQ.
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