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Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:15 am

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q4/061213a_nr.html

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"AHM provides real-time maintenance information to airlines that can address potential problems before they force airplanes out of service and impact an airline's customers - and its own bottom line. The tool will monitor Air France's 777 and 747 fleets. Air France has 42 777s in service and 13 to be delivered; it has 21 747-400s in service...

...The cooperative relationship between Boeing and Air France has grown significantly with Air France's AHM decision. Air France was a developmental partner for the original AHM release, and it is the first Europe-based AHM customer."


*AHM = Airplane Health Management

-Boeing

Air France and Boeing have really become close over the last few years...with this and a/c sales too.

[Edited 2006-12-13 18:16:30]
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RE: Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:30 pm

Is this AHM anything to do with EASA Part M regulations?
 
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RE: Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:36 pm

you will find that Air NZ are also joining the AHM with their B772's and when they receive them B787's
 
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RE: Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:02 pm

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Which is why I expect to see 787/GEnx combo for both AF and KLM when they eventually order
 
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RE: Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:47 pm

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
"AHM provides real-time maintenance information to airlines that can address potential problems before they force airplanes out of service and impact an airline's customers - and its own bottom line.

Interesting link thank you. Does lead me to ask a few questions though;

1: What are the major benefits of AHM compared to what AF currently use?
2: What impact on AFs Productivity will the AHM have?
3: How exactly does AHM work to improve their Productivity? "real-time"?
4: What impact has the introduction of the Class 3 EFP had and have AF reported any notable bottom line benefits since it's introduction? or, have they yet to commence installing them?

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RE: Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:30 am

PanAm_DC10,
Very good questions that show your familiarity with aviation.
Yes, AF along with a few airlines already uses maintenace programs which allow the airplane to communicate with base engineering its systems parameters and/or failures . The transmission is either automatic,depending on the flight phase, a failure or an out-of-tolerance datum, or following a base query.(Sorry can't go into more details, obviously).
Now your questions :
-1/- A finer diagnosis of the systems and pointers toward the DDL
-2/-and 3/- It will allow a monitoring of a diverging parameter, giving an idea on a repair / replacement delay. (We know that this part will eventually fail, so we plan its replacement in 25 hours when the a/c comes back to base).
-4/- Too soon to tell.
So, you see, it's just an improvement of what already exists, not a revolution.
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RE: Boeing & Air France Relationship Now Even Tighter

Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting Pihero (Reply 5):
So, you see, it's just an improvement of what already exists, not a revolution.

Pihero, appreciate the qualified response and I understand that in your role you may well be limited as to what you can say, so thank you. I note that AHM covers the 747 and 777 fleets.

That leads me to ponder whether Boeing will offer an EFB for the 747-8 series

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