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Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:19 am

This is the first one for ANA. News is off Bloomberg.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061213/sfw075.html?.v=77

[Edited 2006-12-13 21:21:34]
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:24 am

still no indication which route it'll fly, however.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:25 am

will ANA equip them with PTVs?
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:26 am

Will the B737-700ER require certification testing? I imagine since it is basically the same as the BBJ1, it will not. Anyone know for sure?

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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:48 am

what will be the code of the 737-700ER? 73GER?
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:54 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 1):
still no indication which route it'll fly, however.

I'm still hoping SEA-NGO as the "Dreamliner Express".  Smile

Quoting LY777 (Reply 4):
what will be the code of the 737-700ER? 73GER?

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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:09 pm

I hope more order this airplane. i'm tired of people saying the plane is too small to be on that long. Well who wants to me on a 757 that lont since its the same fusalage.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:16 pm

I wonder how much advantage ANA and other future customers will take of the 73GER's range. It can fly, for example, from Seattle non-stop to Tokyo or China, and from Miami to any city in South America or continental Europe, even Moscow! The range is pretty impressive.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:07 pm

Quoting Zamaria (Reply 3):
Will the B737-700ER require certification testing? I imagine since it is basically the same as the BBJ1, it will not. Anyone know for sure?

The article says the aircraft is in final assembly, and that ANA will take delivery in early 2007, so I'm guessing there wouldn't be enough time in there to do a certification. I'm guessing none will be needed.

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 6):
I hope more order this airplane.

Well, Continental hasn't ordered it yet? Tongue in cheek, I'd imagine 10-15 for use EWR-EU (cities too minor for even a 752) or IAH-SA (say, Manaus, Recife, etc.)  Smile

Who knows?

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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:16 pm

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 8):
AH-SA (say, Manaus, Recife, etc.) Smile

73G can do IAH-NE Brazil just fine.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:39 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
73G can do IAH-NE Brazil just fine.

Thanks for your response. It'll be interesting to see how ANA uses theirs.

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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:46 pm

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 10):
Thanks for your response. It'll be interesting to see how ANA uses theirs.

I could imagine maybe from Japan to smaller markets in India or the Middle East.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:03 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
I could imagine maybe from Japan to smaller markets in India or the Middle East.

It's interesting, though, that they have IIRC only ordered two frames. Seems like a limited application, at least initially.

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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
The range is pretty impressive.

Indeed! I'm very impressed with the 73GER's range. I think this will open up many random routes such as BNA-LGW, AUS-MAD, MSY-CDG, MIA-MUN, RDU-ANC, MEM-TXL, etc... Imagine the possibilities.
 
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:57 am

I wouldn't like to fly a narrow body for a 10hour flight!!!
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 14):
I wouldn't like to fly a narrow body for a 10hour flight!!!

Not even MAXjet/EOS/Primaris/PrivatAir? I bet you'd change your tune fast.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:12 am

If it has AVOD and the operator has good service, I don't mind flying it at all! Yes, wide bodies are definately the way to travel, but flying a 737 long haul will certainly be a different kind of experience for change.
 
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:27 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 15):
Not even MAXjet/EOS/Primaris/PrivatAir? I bet you'd change your tune fast.

No, because of claustrophobia, I avoid any narrow-body a/c.The sole narrow-body that I like is the 757, but not for flights over 4/5 hours
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:30 am

Quoting Moek2000 (Reply 13):
Indeed! I'm very impressed with the 73GER's range. I think this will open up many random routes such as BNA-LGW, AUS-MAD, MSY-CDG, MIA-MUN, RDU-ANC, MEM-TXL, etc... Imagine the possibilities.

The question will be: What is the CASM for a 737-700ER on these routes? I would imagine they'd need a significant fare premium over connecting services to make it work. Unless the business level demand was there on a given city-pair, it'd be difficult IMO to be successful. The next generation narrow-body might change that though.

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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:33 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
I could imagine maybe from Japan to smaller markets in India or the Middle East.

That's on the consideration list, particularly India.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:36 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 17):
No, because of claustrophobia, I avoid any narrow-body a/c.The sole narrow-body that I like is the 757, but not for flights over 4/5 hours

Yea, flying in a Gulfstream for a 8 hour flight would be torture since it is even narrower than a 737.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:38 am

Quoting Moek2000 (Reply 13):
Indeed! I'm very impressed with the 73GER's range. I think this will open up many random routes such as BNA-LGW, AUS-MAD, MSY-CDG, MIA-MUN, RDU-ANC, MEM-TXL, etc... Imagine the possibilities.

MIA-MUC is already served with widebodies on LTU. Though some of those routes would never work (MEM-TXL, AUS-MAD) even with a 737ER, you are absolutely correct on how many routes this opens up if airlines take advantage of the range. BNA-LGW and MSY-CDG are excellent examples: medium-sized US cities to major European hubs.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 14):
I wouldn't like to fly a narrow body for a 10hour flight!!!

I can see why people would think this, but it's not that bad. I remember flying from STN-EWR on a 757-200 and from EWR-SEA on a 737-700--both flights were quite nice, actually.
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RE: Boeing Starts Final Assembly Of 1st 737-700ER

Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 18):
The question will be: What is the CASM for a 737-700ER on these routes? I would imagine they'd need a significant fare premium over connecting services to make it work. Unless the business level demand was there on a given city-pair, it'd be difficult IMO to be successful. The next generation narrow-body might change that though.

Same argument the 757 had to overcome. And it took many years.

The killer app is this... a nonstop premium does exist in Economy. In Business, it gets even better... you get almost 100% of the J-class business, draining it from other carriers. No premium is needed, just the magnetism of nonstop flights. A 73G with plenty of J-class traffic will make money, no problem. All such city pairs would support a 73GER. Not sure which city pairs that describes, though.
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