jimyvr
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Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:13 am

As TAAG received 2 777 and 3 73G in November 2006, they have virtually replace all 747 and 737-200 service.

Configuration:
777 - F14C51Y190

1x weekly LAD-CDG
1x weekly LAD - LHR
5x weekly LAD - LIS
1x weekly LAD - JNB (2x weekly on 74D)

737-700 - C12Y108
1x weekly LAD - PNR - BZV
1x weekly LAD - PNR (2x weekly on 737-200)
1x weekly LAD - LUN - HRE - LAD
2x weekly LAD - FIH (1x weekly on 737-200)
1x weekly LAD - TMS - ACC - SID (ACC = tech stop)
1x weekly LAD - WDH (2x weekly 737-200, 2x weekly LAD - SDD/Lubango - WDH)

747-300COMBI still flying to Rio de Janeiro, F18C66Y174 configuration, 3 weekly, and to JNB, and sometimes to LIS. 737-200 now fly on Domestic route
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MAH4546
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:16 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
1x weekly LAD - LHR

TAAG does not fly to London. They codeshare with British Airways.
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jimyvr
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:20 am

Looks like that's the case.

TAAG buys F1D5Y10 seats from BA.
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:24 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
TAAG does not fly to London. They codeshare with British Airways.

I had my hopes up then!  Sad

DT606/7 is operated once weekly by British Airways as BA76/77, flights operated by the B772ER.

Any idea if the Angolan goverment will allow BA any extra frequencies, LAD is a very profitable route for BA?!

Will DT ever fly into LON in the near future?

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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:39 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 3):
Will DT ever fly into LON in the near future?

In conversation with their Commercial Director a few weeks ago, he said that they would likely start 1x weekly 777 operation LAD-LHR on Saturday afternoons sometime in the new year. Still nothing concrete though.
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:29 am

LAD-TMS-ACC-SID, ACC being a tech stop? But those B737-700 do have the range for a TMS-SID-TMS, even range for a LAD-REC !
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:51 am

Looks as if the 73Gs are hardly used unless they do some routes we don't know about  Sad
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XA744
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
1x weekly LAD-CDG



Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
1x weekly LAD - JNB (2x weekly on 74D)

Gentlemen, good evening !

I have been following every thread related to this very interesting airline. It is wonderful to see DT having renewed its fleet by having taken delivery of state of the art T7s and 73s, all at once.

Now, it may have been discussed before, but please kindly allow me to pose a question. How profitable could it be to run a 1 x weekly Paris service, having in mind that costs of operating at CDG must be really high ? How can the market handle such a limitation on frequencies ?

OTOH, it surprises me to see only 3 x weekly LAD-JNB. Is it possible to say that South Africa is Angola´s main trade partner ? In such case, we could only expect to have at least daily services between the two countries, is this correct ?

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The777Man
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:39 pm

Thanks for the info !

Any idea when the remaining flights to JNB will be flown by 777 and also when they will switch to 777 to GIG ?

It would also be great if the CRSs would be updated with their new equipment codes.....

Any info on their inflight entertainment on their 777s ?

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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:41 pm

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
Now, it may have been discussed before, but please kindly allow me to pose a question. How profitable could it be to run a 1 x weekly Paris service, having in mind that costs of operating at CDG must be really high ? How can the market handle such a limitation on frequencies ?

Very. Flights to Luanda guarantee profit. The fares are astronomically high.
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:18 pm

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 4):
In conversation with their Commercial Director a few weeks ago, he said that they would likely start 1x weekly 777 operation LAD-LHR on Saturday afternoons sometime in the new year.

I guess that one weekly frequency will preclude BA from obtaining anything more than the current single weekly service of their own. It seems that the Government of Angola is pursuing a policy of strict reciprocity when it comes to handing out additional rights so there is no incentive for granting BA additional rights then. Same goes for Air France, likely.

That said, given the rate at which the Angolan economy is apparently expanding, I guess that the government there will sooner or later have to revise its very restrictive policies and somehow allow for reinforced airlinks. It'll be interesting to see who gets to run away with any future additional rights.
 
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:36 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 10):

I guess that one weekly frequency will preclude BA from obtaining anything more than the current single weekly service of their own. It seems that the Government of Angola is pursuing a policy of strict reciprocity when it comes to handing out additional rights so there is no incentive for granting BA additional rights then. Same goes for Air France, likely.

That said, given the rate at which the Angolan economy is apparently expanding, I guess that the government there will sooner or later have to revise its very restrictive policies and somehow allow for reinforced airlinks. It'll be interesting to see who gets to run away with any future additional rights.

It is stupidity and only ensures that Angola has limited and expensive links with the outside world.

I guess that charter flights ensure that the oil keeps flowing.

BA has 1x weekly flight to London on the 744, but there are 3x weekly flights to Houston on Sonair's MD11.
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:07 pm

Wow, looking at the configuraiton of their B772ER, it seems as though they have a relatively low density aircraft layout with alot of seats in premium cabins. Traffic to Luanda justifies this I suppose? I know of the exponential trade growth between Angola and Brazil, but wasn't aware of high yield nature of TAAG's operations, given the seat layout (and to a lesser extent on their B743).
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:01 pm

Hi!

thanks for the insights of TAAG's T7-cabin outfit. Now I can update my website, with the cabinlayout of DT.

I hope to fly to LIS next February for spotting the 777s.

GreetZ,
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HB-IWC
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:14 pm

Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 12):
Wow, looking at the configuraiton of their B772ER, it seems as though they have a relatively low density aircraft layout with alot of seats in premium cabins. Traffic to Luanda justifies this I suppose? I know of the exponential trade growth between Angola and Brazil, but wasn't aware of high yield nature of TAAG's operations, given the seat layout (and to a lesser extent on their B743).

Well, Angola hasn't exactly been a holiday destination in the past and I guess it won't be for a while to come, so for the time being the premium configuration of the DT fleet is more than warranted given the high yielding traffic from the oil industry.
 
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:27 pm

SN flies once a week to LAD, and I can tell you I've never flown that route with a single empty C-Class seat even when the A333 was configured with the 42C seat map !!!
I think many European Airlines would LOVE to fly there more often, but simply cannot due to restrictive conditions imposed by the Angolan Govt.


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HB-IWC
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:35 pm

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 15):
SN flies once a week to LAD, and I can tell you I've never flown that route with a single empty C-Class seat even when the A333 was configured with the 42C seat map

Sabena used to fly the B743 to LAD, via FIH, and until today, SN operates its LAD flights with a stop in FIH on the return portion, although it could very well operate the LAD flights nonstop in both directions. A crew change takes place at FIH so as to prevent SN crews of being stuck in Luanda for a week - not that Kinshasa is necessarily any better, but at least SN has 5 weekly flights there. Both Air France and Brisish Airways operate the entire roundtrip with just one crew and have the aircraft on the ground in LAD to allow for minimum rest for the crew.
 
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RE: Taag 73G/777 Route/configuration

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:14 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 8):
Any info on their inflight entertainment on their 777s ?

They use Rockwell Collins eTES, the same as Air NewZealand amongst others.