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Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:25 am

From Spiritair.com

"For flights departing now through February 10, 2007, for each ticketed passenger, Spirit Airlines will transport two (2) bags as checked baggage free of charge.

For flights departing February 10, 2007 and beyond, for each ticketed passenger, Spirit Airlines will transport one (1) bag as checked baggage free of charge. "

Interesting, especially for cruise pax and caribbean pax

What do you think
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Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:32 am

What's the weight limit? 20 kg /44 lbs or higher?

Probably depends on your perspective, but I have always seen US carriers as extremely generous with baggage allowances. Most carriers in Europe have a limit of around 20kg /44 lbs in Y and 30kg / 66 lbs in Business class. Some, like Ryanair have a 15kg allowance only. Less weight means less fuel, or more space for paying cargo.

I'd say not a bad move at all by Spirit.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:40 am

Most US airlines are 2 bags @ 50lbs apiece ...

With one bag's allowance taken up by sporting equipemnt, et al ...

(ie: if you fly ATL-DEN on DL, you can have 1 50lb bag + your skis)

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:48 am

Just another way to nickel and dime people because they can't make money flying the airplane with the fares they charge, e.g. "9 cents."!

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting Nkops (Thread starter):
Interesting, especially for cruise pax and caribbean pax

You raise two interesting groups:

With Spirit expanding its caribbean/latin american network, this is NOT going to be popular with pax on those services. Pax from the islands who head to SOuth Florida for shopping trips and pax living in the US who go home to the islands do not travel light. I think that most of us have heard the horror stories concerning certain BWIA and Air Jamaica flights that must leave lots of bags behind due to lack of room or due to weight issues. I think that Spirit may just ""piss off"" a key group which they are targeting for some of their newer services out of FLL....many of these pax travel with 2 or 3 (heavy) bags, plus boxes, plus carry ons, plus, plus......when a checkin agent advises the pax that one bag is OK, and the next 3 will be charged at X per bag, it will be all out war at the airport.

And, the cruise ship gang who also dont travel light....after all, 7 days on board means 20 outfits, formal wear, all different shoes, etc. Plus the souvieniers and junk accumulated while travelling. Again, it could get ugly because its unlikely that pax will be aware of Spirits new rules (no one reads the fine print or pays attention to anything, especially when booking on the internet....they get so excited with their $59 fare that everything else goes un-noticed....sad but true) and will feel ripped off at the airport.

Quoting Nkops (Thread starter):
What do you think

I think that Spirit is asking for a headache with this one.....especially since they are trying to develop a following in the South Florida-carib/latin american market. My opinion is that Spirit would be better off making their fares a bit higher and sticking with the 2 bag rule which most pax are familiar with.

Quoting Bhxfaotipyyc (Reply 1):
Probably depends on your perspective, but I have always seen US carriers as extremely generous with baggage allowances. Most carriers in Europe have a limit of around 20kg /44 lbs in Y and 30kg / 66 lbs in Business class. Some, like Ryanair have a 15kg allowance only. Less weight means less fuel, or more space for paying cargo.

Very logical and well reasoned......but a problem in real life. A pax in the US flying from LGA to FLL does not know or care what the rules are in Europe....US pax are conditioned to the 2 bag rule and ""little-guy"" Spirit will have difficulty changing this attitude. And, as mentioned, the pax going home to the islands for the holiday could care less what Ryanair does in Europe....they are flying home and are used to generous baggage allowances on other carriers (and then try to bend and break the rules further) and will have little patience for a one bag limit.

You are correct, but so what? In the real world, it will be a problem.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:38 am

I agree. The cruise lines will drop them from their carrier list. They don't us NK that much right now. But, after this goes in effect, they can kiss good bye to the cruise lines pass. And as a travel agent I know I'm going to hear some big time complaints from my clients that book their trip to FL for March 2007. This is what happens when you hire someone from the old USAIRWAYS. And put him in charge of things.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
I agree. The cruise lines will drop them from their carrier list. They don't us NK that much right now. But, after this goes in effect, they can kiss good bye to the cruise lines pass.

Having worked for numerous Cruise lines in the past this will not effect of NK gets used or not. When Cruise passengers buy an air sea package they take what we give them, and they do it for the price and also to get round trip transfers.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 6):
Having worked for numerous Cruise lines in the past this will not effect of NK gets used or not.

Agreed.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 6):
When Cruise passengers buy an air sea package they take what we give them, and they do it for the price and also to get round trip transfers.

Again I agree....air/sea pax go for the convenience. And, usually pay a rather premium price for that convenience of ""one-stop shopping"" and the feature of not dealing with baggage from the moment of checking it at the departure airport unitl it shows up at the cabin.

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But (BIG BUT)....cant you see all of the air/sea pax writing letters of complaint to the cruise ship company and their travel agents (and anyone else who will listen) concerning how they were ""ripped-off"" by Spirit for excess baggage charges?

I agree with your reasoning, its 100% correct in my opinion......still, I can foresee this becoming a problem for Spirit when working with the likes of RCCL and Carnival.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:59 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
Again, it could get ugly because its unlikely that pax will be aware of Spirits new rules

The funny thing is , we had no idea about this until a pax brought this to our attention today. When a BP is printed online, the baggage allowance automatically comes out with it.

I can see the 3rd problem group being the MYR pax with the golf bags. As a CSS, I am not looking fwd to Feb 10th and beyond!!!
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:01 am

From an insider's perspective, we had 141 bags on our flight this evening, a good chunk of those (50+ I'd say) from passengers transferring from RCCL's Grandeur of the Seas. Cruise passengers tend to travel heavy....but they are pretty good at sticking to the 50lb weight limit surprisingly...most come in around 47-48...but, they are still big, heavy bags that take up a lot of space in the bins.

This new rule, while destined to put a smile on the face of many a ramp agent, might not go over too well with the flying public. Just my opinion.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:03 am

So another question is why do this? They have low fares, and a lot of Carib. pax are flying, they are also as already mentioned, taking a lot of luggage, for which they are paying. The number of free pieces -2 - is at this time of year irrelevant, as most pax heading home to the Carib. are at 4 pieces min. and there is an excess baggage charge.

Guess the question is if its a fuel concern, is the cost of the extra fuel because of the greater weight, more expensive than the excess baggage charge? AA Eagle started out with a similar policy I think the only one left is the no boxes.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:03 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 7):
But (BIG BUT)....cant you see all of the air/sea pax writing letters of complaint to the cruise ship company and their travel agents (and anyone else who will listen) concerning how they were ""ripped-off"" by Spirit for excess baggage charges?

The thing is though the cruise lines will say that it is the responsibility of the passenger or travel agents concerning baggage allowance.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting Bhxfaotipyyc (Reply 1):
What's the weight limit? 20 kg /44 lbs or higher?

50 pounds, which is 22.7 kg and really the closest round US measurement. It was formerly 70 pounds for most airlines.

Quoting Bhxfaotipyyc (Reply 1):
I'd say not a bad move at all by Spirit.

An absolutely stupid move by Spirit. For one, I doubt their cruise charter services will have this restriction though their normal services are going to take a hit, as Spirit is already competing against much better known carriers that have better rules.

Quoting Bhxfaotipyyc (Reply 1):
Some, like Ryanair have a 15kg allowance only.

Ryanair charges even for that. You really shouldn't compare to them, however, given that they are a joke when it comes to service.

Quoting Bhxfaotipyyc (Reply 1):
Some, like Ryanair have a 15kg allowance only. Less weight means less fuel, or more space for paying cargo.

Ryanair doesn't carry cargo.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:05 am

American Eagle, Continental Connection and Bahamasair will appreciate this move, as it means that on the Nassau - Ft. Lauderdale run, Spirit is no longer a viable alternative for Bahamians.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:30 am

TransIsland, if UP use their head, they would let Spirit carry the pax with their low fares, introduce a new unaccompanied freight charge and bring the bags that Spirit does not want. Heck the baggage charge may be more than Spirit fares, UP get the money and not have to worry about pax complaining when the flights are delayed.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:49 am

What is all the fuss, people have to learn to pack light one day, lets face it, allowing two bags is loosing revenue. Why does my mother need to pack a bathing suit when going to NYC in the middle of winter? (true story) Half the stuff she and my sister pack goes unused.

NK is leading the pack , more will follow.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:57 am

Thank God their are now 4 airlines flying between DTW and MCO. Spirit is what I usually fly, but I might stick with Air Tran now.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:06 am

Spirit was already pretty restrictive with their baggage policy. Their overweight bag charge was something like $250. Will their new bag policy allow for a fair fee to check a 2nd bag?

I've heard stories about Spirit having to fly an extra plane with baggage in the cabin (no passengers) to the Dominican Republic. That was because they could not carry all of the checked bags on the first flight.

The amount of baggage to the Caribbean is crazy. Anyone who has seen the check-in lines @ MIA can agree with that.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:11 am

In all honesty I don't see this as being too much of a problem for the average NK flier. Whenever I go to Florida, even if for a week, I just take a small suitcase - maybe weighing in at like 20 pounds. I've even been on cruises before, and while I do pack a little bit more heavily for cruises, bringing more than one suitcase is just wasteful.

Am I really the odd one out?

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:15 am

This will not bode well for their new FLL-PAP flight. Haitian passengers typically have a lot of bags and they are very aware of the free baggage allowance.

Also flights to PLS and NAS have a lot of shoppers with big bags.

If AA does not match them on this I do not think it will last.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:19 am

Its all about making money, I guess some airlines rather have the smaller margin of pax fares rather than the pax fares plus their bags, besides, whats the fuss about anyway?
With the size of carryons being limited, these bags are in the hold, if the load controllers do their job correctly their should be no problem, and remember, the majority of these bags are not free, the bulk are beyond the 2 limit and are being fully charged, some cost more than the pax fare, go figure.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:21 am

As primarly a leisure pax, LCC airline and going to the Carribbean and tourist locations with heavy luggage demand and running at high load factors, they are probably maxing out the luggage space and MTOW limits. Their options would be to reduce the number of pax they book on flights or bump people off flights where high levels of baggage, charge higher fares, and tick off everybody. As an LCC, they cannot just bump people to other airlines, so the pax would be screwed as they cannot transfer.
However, they must make in very clear in LARGE TYPE of this policy.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:38 am

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 19):
This will not bode well for their new FLL-PAP flight. Haitian passengers typically have a lot of bags and they are very aware of the free baggage allowance.

I was just going to mention this. Haitians do not exactly travel light. I'm assuming that this is one of the reasons why AA uses the A300-600 on most PAP-MIA and all PAP-JFK flights. NK doesn't stand much chance in Haiti when people find out about this new policy.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:06 pm

Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 17):
Their overweight bag charge was something like $250.

No.... 50lb-70lb is $25.00, anything over 70lb. is $100.00.... I think that is in line with most other airlines.

Anything over 2 bags (right now) is $100.00 per bag. I don't know what the new changes will bring since we have not been made aware of this by the company yet. I don't see this change sticking though, it will be a customer service nightmare and a publicity nightmare I believe.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:16 pm

Quoting Nkops (Reply 23):
Anything over 2 bags (right now) is $100.00 per bag

Wow that is pretty high...pretty much double from what most other airlines charge...but if it works for them, more power to them.

NK will have to, at the very least, cut that fee in half to keep the passengers disenchanted, not happy, once this new program goes into effect.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting Nkops (Reply 23):
Anything over 2 bags (right now) is $100.00 per bag. I don't know what the new changes will bring since we have not been made aware of this by the company yet. I don't see this change sticking though, it will be a customer service nightmare and a publicity nightmare I believe

Yep, agreed.......I hope that the changes do not stick for your sake (if nothing more) since you are a front-line NK employee, you are the one who is going to have to deal with some very unhappy customers.

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 18):
Am I really the odd one out?

Yes and no.....more and more pax do travel light and limit themselves to one bag or carryon items to avoid the whole baggage issue, (that you can manage with one suitcase for a cruise is impressive) but, as pointed out above, the VFR pax on flights between the US and the caribbean is a niche market that travel with a huge amount of baggage and will not take kindly to the one bag rule proposed by Spirit.

Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 17):
The amount of baggage to the Caribbean is crazy. Anyone who has seen the check-in lines @ MIA can agree with that.

It may be crazy, but thats the way it is........welcome to the real world.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:34 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 25):

Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 17):
The amount of baggage to the Caribbean is crazy. Anyone who has seen the check-in lines @ MIA can agree with that.

It may be crazy, but thats the way it is........welcome to the real world.

However, there are so many valid reasons for this... but explaining them would be way off topic.

We (family of three) will be going to MCO next week (on UP), and even though we plan to stick to the baggage allowance, most of you will probably wonder how we can possibly fill six suitcases for two days. Just ask a Bahamian customs officer! Merry Xmas!

On second thought: Is NK actually catering to the Caribbean shopper? I go from Nassau to FLL several times a year, but I've never flown NK, because their first flight to FLL leaves here too late and their last flight back is way too early for the dedicated shopper. How does this compare to other destinations south of Florida?

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 26):
However, there are so many valid reasons for this... but explaining them would e way off topic.

I dont think any explanation or reasons are needed to explain why some caribbean pax travel HEAVY.....they just do and if NK wants to attract passengers in this market, its something that NK must consider and adapt to. I dont think that the pax should change, they wont, and if they find NK's approach unacceptable they will find alternatives. I hope that you did not misunderstand what I meant.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 26):
We (family of three) will be going to MCO next week (on UP), and even though we plan to stick to the baggage allowance, most of you will probably wonder how we can possibly fill six suitcases for two days. Just ask a Bahamian customs officer! Merry Xmas!

How about a few presents for each family member, some special treats for family members from home, etc.......I understand, and you are aware of the limits and try to comply. I have seen six suitcases for one pax as well!! Especially this time of year.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 26):
On second thought: Is NK actually catering to the Caribbean shopper?

It was part of the plan, although I agree that the flights ex NAS are not well timed for a day trip......but NK does not have much frequency on the route.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:51 am

As a flight attendant, it amazes me what pax bring on the aircraft- er, how much I should say. I know that those who are in the industry are well adapted to condensing what they take on the road. But in all honesty, if crewmembers, other airline employees, and business travellers can take up to 6 days worth of necessary personal items in just one roller bag (22") and a tote, I don't see how difficult it could be to limit checked baggage to just one 50 pound piece (which is large in my opinion).

I know that cruise pax, among nationals returning home tend to travel with more personal items and that most who do not fly often don't realize what they should and should not bring with them. My mother is of Korean heritage and whenever she visits South Korea, she is prepared to pay excess baggage fees, granted that overseas carriers tend to have a more generous allowance. However, it never ceases to amaze me the amount of luggage I see at the ticket counter when I commute.

This will be interesting. Although it will cause many pax to be unhappy, it will certainly be interesting to see how things pan out and to see whether or not this will become the new industry standard. In the sense of radical changes in the industry, this can be related to Y class service on domestic U.S. flights. After 9-11, airlines crunched to cut costs- which included taking away domestic Y class meals. Many airlines now charge pax even for just a bag of pretzels. I know that some airlines, like B6 and where I work at F9, do not charge for snacks. But some do, even for soft drinks (i.e. G4). It seems to have become a new industry trend and the griping amongst travellers appears to have subsided. I regularly have customers who are new to Frontier Airlines and are shocked when they are not charged for their soft drink and snack. I do realize that there are still many airlines that provide complimentary snacks and/or beverages, but it appears that BOB programs and less complimentary offerings are here to stay.

I hope I do not sound too biased or one sided, just wanted to share my opinion.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:10 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 18):
Am I really the odd one out?

Well, I wouldn't say you're the only one, but you're in the minority. One bag at 50 lbs is definitely going to make Spirit "odd man out" in the US industry - the standard is two at 50 lbs, Southwest still allows three. I don't know of any other airline in the US that only allows one free checked bag.

Unless Spirit runs fares so much lower than everyone else that passengers don't mind, this is going to make them very uncompetitive, especially with cruise passengers. One bag at 50 (plus carryon) just doesn't get the job done for a full week cruise, especially since laundry services on ships are obscenely expensive. Also, what about the golf market? Who's going to pay $100 to take their clubs on Spirit when every other carrier will let you take them for free? Unless Spirit's fares are so much lower that they offset the baggage fees, but then they're giving up revenue on one-bag passengers.

Now if Spirit cuts the fee for the second bag to a more reasonable level ($20? $25?), that might work, but as it is they're going to hear a LOT of screaming in February when this goes into effect and the word really gets out.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:08 am

This is absolutely ridiculous and stupid for an airline that is focusing on expanding into the Caribbean and Latin America, and hopes to do so largely by building a local customer base. Stupid is the only word that describes this.

Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 17):

The amount of baggage to the Caribbean is crazy. Anyone who has seen the check-in lines @ MIA can agree with that.

Definitley. Not only that, but Haiti and Ecuador flights have their own check-in lines at MIA because of this.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 19):
If AA does not match them on this I do not think it will last.

AA makes mistake, but they would never make one this big.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:25 am

Quoting JMBWEEBOY (Reply 3):
Just another way to nickel and dime people because they can't make money

I think it was a very intelligent, well thought out and analyzed change.

Heavier bags cost more to transport and increase airline employee injury rates.

Very few people were affected by the new 50 pound per piece rule that went into affect with domestic carriers last year. The vast majority of customers travel with much less than 140 pounds of luggage...(2 checked bags @ 50 pounds, 1 carry-on @ 40 pounds)

People still get stuck unexpectedly with the overweight fee everyday, but by and large the general flying public has adapted just fine to the change.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:53 am

Quoting JMBWEEBOY (Reply 3):
Just another way to nickel and dime people because they can't make money flying the airplane with the fares they charge, e.g. "9 cents."!

Speaking of these low fares to attract passengers, are they filling up the planes on the "off" days?
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 am

This is a great reason to fly WN out of FLL if you are a cruise passenger. They still allow you to check three 50 pound bags free of charge.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 am

Spirit FA's and gate agents must be rolling their eyes right now. Anyone in the industry knows what this means: more work. Passengers aren't going to follow this new rule when there is a perfectly good argument to be made why they shouldn't. So now they'll just double up the number of carry-ons they try to jam in the overhead bins, and that means more gate-checked bags, longer loading times, slower turns, late departures, irate passengers, and long lines at customer service.

Well done Spirit, you really thought this one through.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 34):
Spirit FA's and gate agents must be rolling their eyes right now.

Well, I will be on Feb 10th.... for obvious reasons I have to watch what I say, because you never know who reads this!!!  Wink

However, I don't think we are at the status where we can try to set an industry trend, I really don't see anyone following suit, and I really don't expect this to last.


Quoting TransIsland (Reply 26):
because their first flight to FLL leaves here too late and their last flight back is way too early for the dedicated shopper. How does this compare to other destinations south of Florida?

The flights are geared more to hit connections out of FLL.... you;ll probably never see a real early flight out of NAS. Even when we overnighted a plane there, it didn't leave until 1000am the next morning.
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:31 pm

For a low-fares airline this is a somewhat logical move in times when airlines even calculate how much fuel they waste by carrying in-flight magazines. If you are a number cruncher at an airline with very small profit margins, allowing vast amounts of luggage that not only take away revenue-earning space, but actually cost money because of their weight, it is pretty obvious that it has to be cut back. It is a trend we see here in Europe - flyBe has introduced it, Ryanair and Easyjet as well. What Spirit should do is to communicate it openly rather than hide it in the small print. Over here, low fare carriers ask you a couple of questions during the booking process such as "would like to order a meal", "would you like to buy a seat-selection option" etc. So why don't they offer like two fares: "59 USD incl. 1 piece of luggage" and "79 USD incl. 2 pieces of luggages" - "make your choice".
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:54 pm

Heck..reducing it to one bag per pax would not have eliminated the zoo at Terminal 4 on Sunday morning...long long lines at all NK acceptance points including the curb. Of course they were cruise ship pax...remember a lot of pax do not include air in their package in attempts to make their own better deal...boy are they in for a surprise right the peak of cruise season.

And I wholeheartedly agreee that this will force more attempts at carryon...which will then slow checkin, screening, and boarding down as arguments over carryon will occur over and over and over.

They have a good new fleet of airbuis so it's not weight/balance...it is definetly an attempt to keep fares at one level but gain revenue with excess baggage charges. I do not see where implementing this policy will be more profitable than just raising fares 2-3% and avoid the negative pax reaction at checkin.

Oh yes...the PAP/CCS/NAS service...sure...1 bag is just all they need....not!
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:33 am

Honestly, if they don't at least make exceptions for their routes to Kingston, Port Au Prince, Santo Domingo, Nassau, Caracas, and San Juan, they are going to be in trouble.
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nkops
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:00 am

Just found out today the second bag will be $25.00... then 100.00 for 3rd bag on up
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JayDavis
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:33 am

Well Ryanair charges for EVERYTHING !! If you want low fares AND you want to carry on a ton of stuff, you are going to pay for it.............I flew Ryanair between LGW and SNN last year and they were fine. I had no problems with them whatsoever. Now they did charge me $100 or so for my VERY overweight piece of luggage. A ton of that was my wife's clothes in my luggage as well. So what we did when we left Ireland was we mailed our dirty clothes home. It was a lot cheaper. I then flew from SNN to LPL (Liverpool) for one pence !!  Smile Taxes cost me about 8.35 pounds or so, plus I bought two beers on board and some chips. I got what I paid for............  Smile

Maybe NK could be going the way of the Ryanair model all together in the future? Just a thought.............
 
nzrich
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:48 pm

Is it a big deal really from their website the 2nd bag is only going to cost $10 for up to 50 lbs and $100 every extra bags ..Not exactly going to break the bank account if you pick up a really cheap fare !!!!!!
"Pride of the pacific"
 
nkops
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:32 am

Nzrich.. I agree... actually, that part (the 10.00) was just added last nite. From what I was told it was originally going to be $25. Glad they lowered it to $10... shouldn't be too bad then
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MAH4546
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RE: Spirit Airlines Changing Baggage Allowance

Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:33 am

Well, if the second bag is only $10, then, no, it is not a big deal.
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