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legacyins
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VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:48 pm

According to this news source, VN would like to start service to the U.S. by 2007. Since 2007 is only a couple of weeks out, I assume they mean in 2007. My bet is on SFO or LAX.

http://www.thanhniennews.com/travel/?catid=7&newsid=23316
 
AirCop
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:56 pm

I guessing that VN doesn't have the equipment to do this non-stop, please correct me if I'm wrong, wonder where they would stop en-route. Isn't the Vietnam service on UA a tag-on from the SFO-HKG flight?
 
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:01 pm

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
I guessing that VN doesn't have the equipment to do this non-stop, please correct me if I'm wrong, wonder where they would stop en-route. Isn't the Vietnam service on UA a tag-on from the SFO-HKG flight?

You are correct on both points. VN won't have the equipment to fly to the States nonstop until they get their B787s. From VN's perspective, the best place to stop enroute would be China. I have doubt they could get the permissions from the Chinese.
 
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:22 pm

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
I guessing that VN doesn't have the equipment to do this non-stop,

Did Vietnam Airlines get rid of their 777-200ERs?
Range: 7700nm.

VN currently runs SGN-CDG, about 800nm less than SFO

Hanoi-San Francisco is 6360nm. WELL WITHIN the 777-200ER range.

But for the sake of argument,
they could do like airlines used to do and go through Anchorage....cuts down the longest leg to 4700nm.

China is out.
Tokyo is out.
Maybe Osaka or Nagoya.
Seoul.

BUT again, why would they have to?????

Am I missing something?
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:27 pm

It'll be SFO IMO. Didn't they have their huge press conference at SFO when they bought the Triple-7? SFO is my bet.

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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:35 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 3):
Seoul.

VN has 3/week 5th freedom via ICN. I'm not sure if VN will use this right. I don't know if VN has other 5th freedoms via Japan or China.
 
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:00 pm

US-Vietnam bilateral also allows VN full 5th freedom rights via Taiwan.
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:07 pm

What about the AA/VN codeshare? I know VN has been placing its code on AA flights out of NRT, CDG and FRA, IINM, but when does AA plan on putting its code on VN flights?
 
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RE: VN One Step Closer To Starting U.S. Service

Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:59 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 3):

Did Vietnam Airlines get rid of their 777-200ERs?
Range: 7700nm.

VN currently runs SGN-CDG, about 800nm less than SFO

Hanoi-San Francisco is 6360nm. WELL WITHIN the 777-200ER range.

[snip]

Am I missing something?

Severe headwinds going westbound. Also, HAN-SFO is not a very plausible route. The economically viable route is SGN-SFO.

On good days, a B777-200ER could make it. On windy days, it would have to make a tech stop, probably at TPE.

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