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Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:39 pm

On todays Pressconference in Vienna Skyeurope announced that they will open a new Base in Vienna base 2 B737-700 in Vienna. Following Destinations will be served starting End of March 2007.

Amsterdam
Athens
Barcelona
Brussels
Bucarest
Dublin
Florence
Larnaca
Nice
Paris-Orly
Rimini
Sofia
Split
Thessaloniki
Venice
Zadar

Welcome in Vienna Skyeurope !

[Edited 2006-12-19 11:44:28]
 
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Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:41 pm

What's their current fleet ? And where is it based ?
 
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Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:50 pm

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 1):
What's their current fleet ? And where is it based ?

They have a fleet of 737-300s (ex easyJet), 737-500s and brand-new winglet-equiped 737-700s.

They have bases in PRG (2x 73W), KRK, BUD and BTS; BTS is also their headquarters. They have operated a WAW base, but that's no longer the case. Next to base-destination flights they operate a handful of W-patterns, like AMS-INN and ORY-SZG.
 
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Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:54 pm

Ok, I understand they have a relatively small fleet. Maybe some of you guys can explain me what's the point of spreading the fleet in four different bases ?

Thanks
 
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Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:30 pm

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 3):
Ok, I understand they have a relatively small fleet. Maybe some of you guys can explain me what's the point of spreading the fleet in four different bases ?

The easy answer is that they adjust the fleet size on a base to the demand of that base.

SkyEurope is (just like easyJet, Ryanair, etc) not a network-carrier with a hub-and-spoke system; they only operate point-to-point flights from one city to another. By operating a 2-a/c base, you can serve quite a market.

Common wisdom says that 2 a/c is the minimum base size for a LCC because of exploiting some economies of scale; think of having spare parts of a/c or of the personnel capacity at the base, the base managers, etc. easyJet does not have bases smaller than 3 a/c even.

When you look at their routemap you can see that even with 2 a/c you can operate quite a number of flights. Once you see demand is growing, it's easy to increase base size.

So why having your aircaft spread over different bases: well, you enlarge your catchment area.
 
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RE: It�s Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:36 pm

Thanks. Now these a/c are operated by crews from their bases or crews from the country of the main hub ? (in this case - slovaks ?)
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE

Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:40 pm

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 5):
Thanks. Now these a/c are operated by crews from their bases or crews from the country of the main hub ? (in this case - slovaks ?)

Like the other LCCs, SkyEurope operates crew from the base area. So the BUD crew comes from Budapest, the KRK crew from the Krakow area, etc.

However I expect VIE to be an exception to it as I expect that they will use Slovakian crew that is living just across the border: there is a pretty big difference between Slovakian and Austrian salaries.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:57 pm

Really nice to see the 73Gs NE based in Vienna. I guess some of them are seasonal services only.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:11 pm

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 3):
Ok, I understand they have a relatively small fleet. Maybe some of you guys can explain me what's the point of spreading the fleet in four different bases ?

They have no real clue what they are doing. Despite huge and increasing losses they ordered a bunch of new airplanes (expensive leases) which they now have to figure what to do with. Ryanair invades them in BTS and KRK, they lost WAW to Wizzair, so they try to escape to PRG and VIE.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:18 pm

Hmm judging from there bad finacial situation this is the last try to make some money. I give them a few months than they will be gone!
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:19 pm

Good move by SkyEurope. Vienna is underserved by LCCs and there's a good amount of good paying customers in Vienna.

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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:22 pm

Quoting Danny (Reply 8):
They have no real clue what they are doing.

Their move to VIE seems a very smart one to me, though, as was IMO their move to PRG.

Quoting Danny (Reply 8):
Despite huge and increasing losses they ordered a bunch of new airplanes (expensive leases) which they now have to figure what to do with.

Their a/c order was perfectly timed. Boeing was at a point when they where willing to offer huge discounts and fuel prices were high. With current fuel prices, continue flying 737-500s doesn't seem the right option too, does it? And when trying to grow, you need something like a/c, right?

Quoting Danny (Reply 8):
Ryanair invades them in BTS and KRK, they lost WAW to Wizzair, so they try to escape to PRG and VIE.

Or you can say that they found out that they did not want to compete one-to-one with Ryanair on the low-yielding migration routes, but to compete the network carriers from their hubs. They can compete with OK and more so with Smartwings on routes like AMS-PRG, that have different characteristics than KRK-DUB.

It's actually a similar adjustment as easyJet made. Leave the pure low-cost market to Ryanair, and move a bit to the middle, compete with the network carriers on the trunk routes.

Maybe they shouldn't have started in WAW from the beginning, but many things have been written about politics in WAW - also easyJet complained about that - so what happened there is just guessing.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:37 pm

Quoting Joost (Reply 11):
Their move to VIE seems a very smart one to me, though, as was IMO their move to PRG.

Prague has plenty of LCC services and all routes offered by Sky were already served, sometimes even by 2 or 3 carriers. Their results leave no doubt that it was not smart move. Comparing to previous year they increased revenue by 40% but at the same time the doubled losses.

Quoting Joost (Reply 11):
Boeing was at a point when they where willing to offer huge discounts and fuel prices were high

Sky has all of them on leases as they couldn't afford to pay even for one airplane. Due to poor credit worthiness their leases are very expensive. Any discounts given by Boeing went to the lessor not to SkyEurope. The numbers speak for themselves:
2005 2006 +/- Q4 06
Passengers millions 1.7 2.6 +48.2% 1.0
ASK million km 2,563 3,703 +44.5% 1,323
RPK million km 1,991 2,801 +40.7% 1,110
Load factor % 77.7 75.6 (2.1 pp) 83.9
Revenues million EUR 112.7 158.6 +40.7% 63.0
EBITDAR million EUR (10.7) (21.3) n.m. 4.9
EBIT million EUR (33.6) (55.2) n.m. (6.3)
Net loss for the period million EUR (28.6) (57.3) n.m. (7.1)

Quoting Joost (Reply 11):
Maybe they shouldn't have started in WAW from the beginning, but many things have been written about politics in WAW - also easyJet complained about that - so what happened there is just guessing.

WAW is expensive airport, but it is the same expensive for Wizzair, Ryanair, Easyjet, Norwegian, Centralwings as it is for Sky. There was no politics involved. They simply lost to competition.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:41 pm

So what? Is it forbidden to make a loss?

Why do we need to debate about NE's finances every time there is an announcement?

If they are that much of crap like some of you think then leave them. The market will decide if they continue or not.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:46 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 13):
So what? Is it forbidden to make a loss?

Should be!

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 13):
The market will decide if they continue or not.

The sooner the better. Big grin
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:46 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 13):
So what? Is it forbidden to make a loss?

 Embarrassment

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 13):

Why do we need to debate about NE's finances every time there is an announcement?

Because every time they make a new move it only makes things worse?  dollarsign 
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:47 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 14):
Should be!

Cool, then skip 90% of the airlines  Wink
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 16):
Cool, then skip 90% of the airlines

LOL  Big grin thats true!
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:25 pm

Great news.
I hope that OS will learn their lesson for overpricing their routes.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:27 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 17):
Quoting RJ100 (Reply 16):
Cool, then skip 90% of the airlines

LOL thats true!

In US maybe, in Europe ii is not.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:12 pm

The IATA airlines lost several billion Euros annually in the past years...not only in the US. In Europe I know only easyJet and Ryanair in the low fare sector who operate with sustainable profits.

In Central Europe in fact noone runs with a profit, neither Wizz nor Centralwings nor Smartwings etc.

It is a fact that SkyEurope loses money too. IT doesn't mean that we need to bitch against the company everytime this name is mentioned.

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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:15 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 20):
In Central Europe in fact noone runs with a profit, neither Wizz nor Centralwings nor Smartwings etc.

Can you give us a link to Wizzair's results?
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:18 pm

You know exactly that WizzAir does not release their results.

It's an open secret that they don't make a cent.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 22):
You know exactly that WizzAir does not release their results.

If you don't know their results then don't post it. Your assumptions may be wrong.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:32 am

WizzAir needed a financial investment of 25 mio. Euros just 7 months after take off in May 2004, otherwise they would have disappeared after just a few months. Since then they have started tons of routes that need months if not years to generate profits. If you look at their fares you will notice that a lot of tickets go away for 0.01 Euros even in the not too distant future.

I like WizzAir as much as I like SkyEurope but we need to be realistic. They are simply not able to generate profits right now. Maybe in some years but now it is not possible because the airlines are currently spending way too much money for building up their routes. And you are damn right, it is an assumption. If you can prove me wrong with WizzAir-no problem- I am happy about every airline that makes a profit.

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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:32 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 2):
like AMS-INN and ORY-SZG.

All SkyEurope operations from INN as well as SZG will be ceased by the beginning of the 2007 summer schedule.

Operations in Austria will exclusively be from VIE by then, although NE is still in the process of negotiating VIE-INN twice daily (where now OS sells economy tickets for around 300 Euros in the morning and evening)  Embarrassment
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:18 am

honestly i dont see the demand to those destinations, if there was a need they would have generated much more pax ex bts !

they should fly to the balkan countries, turkey for vfr traffic ex vie to cater for the immigrants travel needs!

everything else does lower everybodies possible profits!

even vie-inn wl not work, the tyroleans wl stay with aua, why? aua wl lower the tariffs to the skyeurope level and after a while skyeurope wl leave the market! same happened with air alps!
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 24):
WizzAir needed a financial investment of 25 mio. Euros just 7 months after take off in May 2004, otherwise they would have disappeared after just a few months.

Yes, that was in 2004 and since then they must be doing reasonably well as no additional capital was needed. SkyEurope had to raise money few times already. Only about 3 months ago they got €50m to survive winter.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:20 am

In my opinion FlyNiki ,Air Berlin and AUA will feel some heat,although many flights will be operated on a reduced frequency-unatractive for business-travel.
I wish SkyEurpe good luck ,good yields( that's what they need very rapidly !)
and persistant growth.Although critical towards airlines that burn too many millions (looks sometimes like money-laundry..),I do not wish any airline to dissapear.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:19 am

The Question is how much it will hurt BTS. A whole Bunch of Austrians won´t travel via BTS now, as the can go directly from Vienna with "their" NE.
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 4):
SkyEurope is (just like easyJet, Ryanair, etc) not a network-carrier with a hub-and-spoke system; they only operate point-to-point flights from one city to another.

Sky Europe do ofer some connections - most notably at Bratislava from from Kosice

Quoting INNflight (Reply 25):
All SkyEurope operations from INN as well as SZG will be ceased by the beginning of the 2007 summer schedule.

Big blow for INN to loose its only LoCo (unless VIE-INN starts)
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:27 am

And expect BEG to join the stable from VIE next year as well, as soon as "Open-Skies" kicks in...
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE

Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:31 pm

Quoting VORFMD (Reply 29):
The Question is how much it will hurt BTS. A whole Bunch of Austrians won�t travel via BTS now, as the can go directly from Vienna with "their" NE.

That might very easily happen. But, I think BTS is saturated already (no enought terminal space, at peak times it looks like a zoo) and no reasonable development in the offing.

So NE might have figured to cancel the most unprofitable routes out of BTS. This would leave them with a few aircraft to position somewhere and VIE is an excellent airport to base them there. I could easily imagine for example the AMS flight from BTS leaving in the morning and returning late morning, while VIE flight doing the same in the evening and late evening. VIE and BTS are not that far from each other so that this kind of schedule would be of no use to some people....
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:35 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 30):
Big blow for INN to loose its only LoCo (unless VIE-INN starts)

Management at Welcome Air would likely rather think it's a huge victory! They've been quite vocal in their distaste for SkyEurope's business practices and how they affect INN.
Ask why..
 
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:23 am

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 33):
Quoting Humberside (Reply 30):
Big blow for INN to loose its only LoCo (unless VIE-INN starts)

Management at Welcome Air would likely rather think it's a huge victory! They've been quite vocal in their distaste for SkyEurope's business practices and how they affect INN.

Do you know why Welcome Air have had a problem with SkyEurope since they dont compete with each other?
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:20 am

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 3):
Ok, I understand they have a relatively small fleet. Maybe some of you guys can explain me what's the point of spreading the fleet in four different bases ?

No point at all. Many small LCC's that spread themselves so thinly around bases have no ability whatsoever to gain economies of scale from that base in terms of marketing and power to price competitors off the routes. Great example is bmiBaby who have failed in every base they have entered with a small number of aircraft. Biggest example of late was MME.

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 10):
Good move by SkyEurope

Terrible move by SkyEurope. VIE is an expensive airport. It is also an expensive region to advertise, especially when you are trying to market your two aircraft a day.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 34):
Do you know why Welcome Air have had a problem with SkyEurope since they dont compete with each other?

One could probably make the argument that the two do compete. Welcome Air operates from Innsbruck to Rotterdam while SkyEurope operates Innsbruck-Amsterdam. If the price difference was great enough, I'm sure plenty of Dutch holidaymakers would make the trek to AMS.

More importantly, I imagine Welcome Air has just been most concerned about any SkyEurope expansion at INN. Without other LCC competition, it may have looked like a savory opportunity for SkyEurope to plant some roots and experiment with other routes. The more they expand, the more they were likely to infringe upon Welcome Air's niche. Management at Welcome Air has not minced words in pointing at the cost advantage of having a staff based largely in central European nations. Using a small turboprop to compete with a Boeing 737 likely doesn't help either.

Ultimately, SkyEurope's withdrawal from INN likely means daily 737 service is just too big for the market, one that can't seem to be stimulated by low fares (or break away from the charter mould).
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:11 am

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 36):
SkyEurope's withdrawal from INN likely means daily 737 service is just too big for the market, one that can't seem to be stimulated by low fares

Or perhaps SkyEurope didnt do any advertising. They are an unknown brand.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:35 am

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 37):

Or perhaps SkyEurope didnt do any advertising. They are an unknown brand.

The only flight currently offered ex INN is AMS and I can say they're not an unknown brand in the Netherlands. They do good and efficient advertising, in the travel pages of national newspapers, both payed-papers as the free newspapers (Metro newspaper is a countrywide edition over here). I see them quite often and I've heard quite some people booking on NE to INN.

Isn't the withdrawl just because there is hardly any demand to INN outside the ski season? Don't they just need the capacity for the Spanish, Sicilian and Greek routes?
 
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:44 am

Quoting Bestwestern (Reply 35):
Terrible move by SkyEurope. VIE is an expensive airport. It is also an expensive region to advertise, especially when you are trying to market your two aircraft a day.

It would be interesting to know the deal between NE and Vienna airport. Wasn't VIE interested to buy BTS airport to establish a low cost hub there? For some reason they failed to buy BTS and now want to get LCCs in VIE. So maybe they offered a good deal to NE?

As for the marketing, they could do it like here in BSL to save costs: Doing no marketing at all Big grin

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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 39):
Doing no marketing at all

Thats fine for BSL, which is not a 'hub' for the airline. Easy are successful in BSL because they spend a ton on advertising when they launched, and its now maintained when they do new route launches.

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 39):
It would be interesting to know the deal between NE and Vienna airport.

If you were VIE would you offer a great deal to a pisspot LCC like NE, or to EZY or Air Berlin who could really exploit the benefits of Vienna, which is far from an LCC airport.

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 39):
Wasn't VIE interested to buy BTS airport

For me, frying pan and fire for NE - they coulnt stand the heat in BTS, and have jumped right into the fire of VIE - and I beleve will be trampled upon by the OS and their friends in the Star alliance. But with so many NE routes to operate with with just two aircraft, maybe OS wont have to bother - NE wont be able to offer the frequencies the passenger expects these days.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:09 am

Thanks BestWestern for your input. I know that you know what you are speaking about so I always like to hear your statements.

Still, I wish NE good luck.

What- in your opinion- are the chances of a takeover of NE by another carrier (EZY?)? Or what about a merger between some of the local carriers there? I know that Wizz, Sky, Central or Smart cannot stand each other and their fleet wouldn't fit well to each other. I still doubt that any of these carriers is making big money so wouldn't it make sense?

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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:12 am

I thought SkyEurope was the Ryanair, of Eastern Europe. Looks like they want to move west. Will face some stiff competition I'd imagine.
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RE: Its Official: Sky Europe Opens New Base In VIE!

Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 38):
Isn't the withdrawl just because there is hardly any demand to INN outside the ski season?

INN is also popular in the summer, at least from the UK. There are quite a few charters operated every Saturday from UK regional airports by Austrian Arrows. INN usually features in tour operators 'lakes and mountains' brochures

Perahps SkyEurope choose the wrong routes from INN? If they did STN-INN and maybe also MAN-INN 3/4 times a week Im sure they would have worked
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