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Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:35 am

I can think of about 1,000 better ways to die:

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A small airplane apparently took a nose-dive into a tank of raw sewage near Gilroy on Monday afternoon.

Gilroy police Sgt. Kurt Svardal said authorities have no idea where the plane was from or where it was going. The aircraft came pretty much straight down into a holding tank filled with raw sewage at a sewage treatment facility, he said, adding that it was too dangerous for a dive team to go into the water and check for bodies or the tail number of the plane, which would indicate who owned it and where it was from.

The tank is about 20 feet deep and will have to be drained before police can determine if anyone is inside. Svardal said police assume at least one person, the pilot, is inside the downed plane. There may be passengers as well.

Police received reports of a possible crash around 4 p.m. and spent an hour and a half checking the area. Workers at the sewage treatment plant noticed damage to a railing around the tank and notified police, who determined that the plane had gone into the tank.

The tank is a couple hundred feet in diameter, Svardal said, which means the plane probably came in at a very steep angle. It is nowhere near any kind of airfield or landing strip, he said.

Svardal said Gilroy police had no reports of overdue or missing planes in the area. He said the Federal Aviation Administration is trying to determine where the plane came from and who was at the controls.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...9/BAG8JN26UK1.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

RIP to the victims, looks from some images I saw of the crash site they didn't suffer long.









 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Skoker (Thread starter):
I can think of about 1,000 better ways to die

I agree. What a shitty way to go.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:13 am

I guess their Christmas plans went down the toilet. Rest in peace.
 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:21 am

Boy they sure picked a crappy way to die.




Seriously, are we all screwed in the head?
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:22 am

What, were they aiming for the place?? The place is surrounded by miles of farm land. I checked the area on goggle earth and you could belly land a 747 in any direction from that plant.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:45 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 3):
Seriously, are we all screwed in the head?

Yes, you and everyone else that has posted a "comment" on this thread is totally f-ed in the head. The airplane belonged to the school that I did my primary-ATP training at. I got my ATP in that plane. I lost 2 friends in that plane. So shut up and let them rest in peace. You people are disgusting.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:56 am

Quoting Skoker (Thread starter):
can think of about 1,000 better ways to die:

I hope the impact killed them and not the sewage.

I took an environmental engineering course when I was in college. Our professor told us the story of a small-town mayor who also kept the sewage treatment plant going. Well, one night, something happened, she went in to fix it, and fell into one of the aerobic digestors  eek  As the story goes, all they were able to locate the next morning was her shoes and skeletal remains. Not a good way to go.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:19 am

Quoting Tozairport (Reply 5):
So shut up and let them rest in peace. You people are disgusting.

Sigh. I'm going to get flamed for this, but Tozairport—no one is unsympathetic here. We all mourn the loss of our fellow aviators. We're all sorry you lost friends. But the fact is, some of us deal with pain with humor. Without humor, sometimes pain can be overwhelming.

Hopefully, your friends are also chuckling with the angels in Heaven about how they shuffled off this mortal coil.
 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:31 am

With full sympathy to the deceased, I noticed that they opted not to send the dive team into the tank.

Which from all the aspects of this case- murky water, sharp metal objects, ect was a very wise choice.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:34 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
What, were they aiming for the place??

My first impression, exactly. Read the following quote from the article; in a true emergency, the tendency just before impact is to pull back, resulting in a stall at a shallow angle. We'll wait and see.

Quoting Skoker (Thread starter):
The tank is a couple hundred feet in diameter, Svardal said, which means the plane probably came in at a very steep angle.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:46 am

Tozairport, I'm sorry you lost friends in this mishap but I stand by my first post - it is truly a shitty way to die. Even if they landed in a field of daisies, it is.
Consider the fate of a fellow pilot from my home airport who, a few years ago, lost his engine shortly after takeoff. Directly ahead was a busy road, an elementary school and a sewage treatment plant. He aimed for the place of least resistance - the large settling/filtering ponds and came to earth in a big brown splash. Fortunately he survived with little injury, but do you think he or anybody else in the area has forgotten it, and can you imagine the jokes that have been directed at this poor guy's expense? Pilots in general are known for their high-quality and their infantile senses of humour, and I can assure you none of either was spared despite the potential seriousness of the incident.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:47 am

Pardon my ignorance, but where is the information that there were three dead? From an unposted followup? Or did I just miss it?
 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 9):

My first impression, exactly. Read the following quote from the article; in a true emergency, the tendency just before impact is to pull back, resulting in a stall at a shallow angle. We'll wait and see.

News yesterday here in the Bay Area reported that witnesses saw the aircraft falling out of the sky in a nose dive and spinning out of control. So no, I don't think they were aiming for anything.

RIP. Truly sad to hear about these things.

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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:50 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 10):
Tozairport, I'm sorry you lost friends in this mishap but I stand by my first post - it is truly a shitty way to die. Even if they landed in a field of daisies, it is.

I think I would opt for the field of daisies, personally. :P
 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:50 am

Quoting Starrion (Reply 8):
Which from all the aspects of this case- murky water, sharp metal objects, ect was a very wise choice.

I don't think it was THAT the water was murky, moreso WHAT made the water murky.

Quoting Symphonik (Reply 7):
Sigh. I'm going to get flamed for this, but Tozairport—no one is unsympathetic here. We all mourn the loss of our fellow aviators. We're all sorry you lost friends. But the fact is, some of us deal with pain with humor. Without humor, sometimes pain can be overwhelming.

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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:51 am

I don't think there is anyone who flies who hasn't lost a friend or loved one in a plane accident. I lost a friend two weeks ago. He was one hell of a pilot and did a great deal for the Texas A&M Flying club.

May they all rest in peace and have blue skies and a big full sun as they fly west.
 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:58 am

Quoting Khobar (Reply 11):
Pardon my ignorance, but where is the information that there were three dead? From an unposted followup? Or did I just miss it?

Nope, my bad. Here's the latest update:

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salvage crew today is expected to lift the remains of a small plane that crashed into a massive raw sewage tank in Gilroy so that coroner's officials can remove the three bodies inside the crumpled aircraft.

The plane appeared to fall from the sky in a tailspin Monday afternoon, witnesses and authorities said, but efforts to determine the cause of the crash and confirm who was onboard have been hampered by the bizarre crash site at the South County Regional Wastewater Authority treatment plant.

Vicki Gonzales, office manager of Nice Air flight school in San Jose, said one of the school's flight instructors and two students, all Japanese nationals, died in the crash.

Gonzales identified the instructor as Shoki Haraguchi and the two students as Yoshiyuki Kato and Yasushi Miyata. Kato and Miyata were in the country to take a pilot course from Nice Air, company operations director Hiro Takai said.

School officials don't know who was piloting the plane when it went down, Gonzales said.

The United States -- and particularly mild climate states like California, Arizona and Texas -- is a destination for international flight students because it offers several small-plane manufacturers, a relatively large general aviation community and cheaper aviation fuel, parts and hangar fees, Takai said.

Gilroy police Sgt. Kurt Svardal said officials are considering using a crane or helicopter to remove the plane. Once it's on the ground, the bodies will be retrieved, and autopsies will be performed to determine the cause of death.

On Tuesday, workers drained raw sewage from the 600,000-gallon tank to expose the plane, which had one wing sheared completely off, apparently from hitting a concrete divider within the tank.

After the plane was exposed at the bottom of the 20-foot tank, the surface was deemed too slippery and dangerous to safely remove the bodies, Svardal said.

"They have to figure out how to get it out of there," he said.

Gilroy resident John Dryden, 43, said he was outside a friend's house on Monday when he looked up and saw the plane plummeting from the sky at about 4 p.m.

"It was vertically straight, swirling maybe five, six, times, then it disappeared out of our sight," Dryden said. "It was a matter of seconds ... not even 10 seconds, and it was out of my sight. There was no smoke, no sound, nothing -- it just went straight down."

He called 911, then drove over to the area with his friend but couldn't find anything, he said.

The twin-engine plane, a Beechcraft Travel Air, had departed the Reid-Hillview Airport in San Jose at 1 p.m. Monday and about three hours later crashed at the treatment plant, located in south Gilroy south of Highway 152.

There are no airfields or landing strips near the sewage treatment plant, Gilroy authorities said.

The flight school reported the craft missing after it failed to return to the airport as scheduled at 5 p.m.

Local authorities, who had received the 911 calls from several witnesses, began searching and eventually spotted a portion of the plane from a helicopter, Svardal said.

Workers at the treatment plant had heard a crash but could not see the plane over the raised walls of the sewage tank, Svardal said.

Officials found a flight log and a Japanese passport near the wreckage.
 
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:58 am

 Sad Really sorry to hear. RIP to the victims.

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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:19 pm

At first I thought it could have been just a bad recovery from a spin, however seeing as how it was a twin, what is the chances of the pilots letting the airspeed drop to much while simulating a one engine out situation, and over it goes if i recall correctly it is very hard to recover from this "spin". Perhaps someone with there Multi ticket can go into more depth for me, thanks.
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RE: Small Plane Crashes Into Raw Sewage Tank, 3 Dead

Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:41 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
What, were they aiming for the place?? The place is surrounded by miles of farm land. I checked the area on goggle earth and you could belly land a 747 in any direction from that plant.

The Gilroy area is actually surrounded by hills and not as flat as it may look from sat. imaging.

RIP to the victims.

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