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US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:58 am

It’s that time of year again: carolers a-caroling, chestnuts roasting, long security lines, the savory aroma of Chick-fil-A wafting through the concourse. For those who are interested, my column this week features a look-back at the most notable air travel stories of the past twelve months (with ample illustrations culled from the Airliners site).

And naturally, it wouldn’t be Ask the Pilot without a piddling diversion into airline color schemes…

“…With its latest livery, U.S. airways goes from first to worst. The scheme it supersedes, with its smoky, post-apocalyptic gray and unadorned outline of the American flag, was cool, clean, and classy. All that is gone now, replaced by a lethargic white base and a childish red stripe. The design was conceived after the 2005 merger between U.S. Airways and America West, presumably as a gesture of partnership and assimilation. The flag and font are U.S. Airways; the lightly sprayed fuselage jags are America West. Couldn’t they just have given every employee a watch? ….”

To read the full story, click here:
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/12/22/askthepilot214/

Entry to Salon is free.

Thanks, and best to all,

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:03 am

Quoting Aviateur (Thread starter):
“…With its latest livery, U.S. airways goes from first to worst. The scheme it supersedes, with its smoky, post-apocalyptic gray and unadorned outline of the American flag, was cool, clean, and classy. All that is gone now, replaced by a lethargic white base and a childish red stripe. The design was conceived after the 2005 merger between U.S. Airways and America West, presumably as a gesture of partnership and assimilation. The flag and font are U.S. Airways; the lightly sprayed fuselage jags are America West. Couldn’t they just have given every employee a watch? ….”

I have to disagree with the review. At first I was not impressed with the new livery. But, I have to go back to the first.

When HP changed their paint jobs from the original to the before merger, I had the same feelings as the author of the article. I was not impressed. Then it grew on me.

When US changed their bare metal scheme to the dark blue, I had the same exact feelings as the author. Then it grew on me.

When the merger happened, I had the same feelings. But, now it is starting to grow on me.

I think the new paint job is a reflection of both US and HP. The new paint reflects a new change. Hopefully for the better.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:51 am

Quoting Aviateur (Thread starter):
“…With its latest livery, U.S. airways goes from first to worst. The scheme it supersedes, with its smoky, post-apocalyptic gray and unadorned outline of the American flag, was cool, clean, and classy. All that is gone now,

There's nothing classy about dripping beads of sweat while sitting on a full flight on the tarmac in PHX or LAS, which could've been prevented if the cabin was was painted a light color. Livery was changes, colors were lightened, problem solved.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:18 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 1):
There's nothing classy about dripping beads of sweat while sitting on a full flight on the tarmac in PHX or LAS, which could've been prevented if the cabin was was painted a light color. Livery was changes, colors were lightened, problem solved.

Yes, the heat issue is a problem, as is the fact that heavy colors don't weather well. But US could have (should have?) used a silver base, like the one NW chose. The aluminum look is always a safe fall-back.

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 3):
Yes, the heat issue is a problem, as is the fact that heavy colors don't weather well.

Evidenced by the many 737 Classics with the paint comming off... I know those planes were safe, but christ... whenever I flew the EWR-CLT leg, I always overheard a woman saying that the damn thing would fall apart mid flight  Smile
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:42 am

I disagree. I work on the ramp in PHX, and I must say the US 757's in the new scheme are some of the best looking A/C out there. Our Mesa CRJ 900's are pretty sexy too!
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:21 pm

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 3):
The aluminum look is always a safe fall-back.

The aluminium look sucks on Airbuses, though - too much composite. Given that both airlines are majority Airbus...
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:34 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 1):
I was not impressed. Then it grew on me.

I felt the same way about the new US liveries, and now its not even bad at all.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:45 pm

I didn't like the new livery at first having only seen pictures of it. But once I saw one in person, its much better. Pictures don't do this livery justice...witht he sun shining on it, it really is a thing of beauty.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:01 pm

Last weekend it was the first time for me to see the new US livery and I must say it is one of the nicest liveries I've seen so far. The light grey stripes going to the tail is very nice and the overall livery is just very nice in my opinion. Add to that the very nice special colours US introduced with the heritage liveries (Allegheny, Piedmont, PSA) and the football liveries of the Philadelphia Eagles and now the Arizona Cardinals as well, this airline has some very nice liveries flying around. Good luck to US!! Big grin

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:59 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 1):
When HP changed their paint jobs from the original to the before merger, I had the same feelings as the author of the article. I was not impressed. Then it grew on me.


I like the lighter colors better than the darker ones. I was never impressed with the earlier UA nor NW schemes. The US scheme before the merger seemed to represent, for me, East Coast americana. Lighter colors fit into the style of the West, and make sense in the heat of the southwest. The new US livery is growing on me, also.
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:20 pm

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 2):
There's nothing classy about dripping beads of sweat while sitting on a full flight on the tarmac in PHX or LAS, which could've been prevented if the cabin was was painted a light color. Livery was changes, colors were lightened, problem solved.

You beat me to it! Before the merger, US didn't operate in hot weather all that much compared to post merger. In the next year, more east planes will find themselves in phx and las tarmacs heating up like none other. As jmc said, the lighter paint job will really help. Besides that, I think it is one of the best-looking schemes in the US right now.
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:00 am

Well I was not really a fan of our "Flintsones" paint scheme, although I did like the colours. I miss our old "pinstripe" scheme the most, that was classy. The "Darth Vader" scheme of old US really had to go, too dark. The bare metal look was nice, provided you keep it buffed. And by the way, I got the watch. Its already broken.  Wink
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:14 am

I personally liked all three of the liveries (old US, HP and new US) purely in aesthetic terms. I miss the turqoise most of all  Sad
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:20 am

I think the new white livery looks good on its own, but it looks great when standing next to the old-US dark scheme. I know it's a total pipe dream, but I really wish that the airline could keep half the fleet in white and half the fleet in blue. (FWIW, I don't really buy the dark planes in PHX and LAS problem as an issue. Roofing tiles and microchips are black because they are easier to cool off. Counterintuitive, but true.)
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:33 am

I have truly enjoyed the transformation of liveries that US Airways has been thru. They all represented style trends for their respective decades.

My only beef with the current livery is the way the belly colours end so abruptly when it comes to the nose. I found this slightly revised scheme, and like the way the colours terminate at the nose. My only suggestion to US would be to "complete" the belly colours to the nose....


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...I might add, that the brand theoretically is "U*nited* S*tates* Airways. This current scheme is definitely a more patriotic rendition of such a name.

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:03 am

I had the opportunity to see a US737 in the new colours in DFW a few days ago, and I with the supporters of this scheme. It looks really smart, and better than the other airlines that were parked around it. The dark colours were ok, they were different, but lookinig at the 767s and 737s seems as if it is a bit hard to take care of...
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:05 am

Quoting Captaink (Reply 16):
had the opportunity to see a US737 in the new colours in DFW a few days ago

Are there pics of this plane yet?
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
Are there pics of this plane yet?

There are a couple pics in the database, here is one. Looks pretty eh..

Before (old coloured 737)

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Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:24 am

Like I have said before, when I first saw the new US livery in AUA last week I was really impressed. I have some very nice photos in the screening qeue here, incl. the Philadelphia Eagles livery, so I really hope they will make it. Once uploaded I will post them here as well.

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:33 am

Rikkus67, that Modified livery is wonderful. Clearly, it is more beautiful, using the Boeing Dreamliner scheme "wave" as an inspiration. Too bad US did not think of that....
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:43 pm

Well, I like both the old US and new US livery, and will enjoy them while they last, until they say "Delta" on the side of the plane. . .
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:52 pm

I love the new livery. The old one looks dated and it is transparent in it's '90s origins. All in all, the new one looks fresher and more modern
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:12 am

The new livery looks really nice on the E-Jets!
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:29 am

Quoting BA787 (Reply 22):
The old one looks dated and it is transparent in it's '90s origins

How? the new one is just a modification of the old one, really.
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting Crjflyer35 (Reply 5):
I work on the ramp in PHX, and I must say the US 757's in the new scheme are some of the best looking A/C out there.

I had not seen the new livery until my flight to 'Bama in November. It 'appeared' to be okay in photographs . . .

I was convinced when I saw that A319 pull into the gate (5 1/2 hours late) in ANC and then upon arrival in PHX that this was a winner. Simple and clean. Well done US.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 15):
and like the way the colours terminate at the nose.

Having the current blue and red terminate before the nose cone section has been helpful at when replacing radomes covers with just solid white and not affecting the paint job and lines.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 26):
Having the current blue and red terminate before the nose cone section has been helpful at when replacing radomes covers with just solid white and not affecting the paint job and lines.

For the non-frequent-flyer, this is a plus.

I boarded a US F-100 back in CLT in 1998 (or so), the L1 had been replaced with a door from another US F-100 in the former livery. . .

Much talk on the plane (and before boarding) about the mismatched door and the fact the plane might fall apart, blah, blah, blah . . .

Much truth to what you say - if for no other reason than to ease the fears of the unknowing flying public.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:58 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 24):
How? the new one is just a modification of the old one, really.

But the modification makes it all the better
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:12 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
(FWIW, I don't really buy the dark planes in PHX and LAS problem as an issue. Roofing tiles and microchips are black because they are easier to cool off. Counterintuitive, but true.)

Buy it. The examples you cite do not correlate well to this situation.

The darker airplane will both absorb and radiate more effectively than a white airplane. However, the net difference between these two is what will influence passenger comfort (and long term paint condition) along with other factors of course.

You cite that a darker body has a greater tendency to "cool off".
If you define "cooling off" as the radiation of energy you are correct.
If "cooling off" is intended to represent that overall "comfort" state of an airplane in the desert then I disagree as heat radiation is only a factor in the overall picture. Under only very limited circumstances could "cooling off" be considered one and the same as "radiating".

As just one factor to consider when considering the practical (rather than theoretical) approach to solving this problem of airplane comfort/temperature, consider the effect that an external heat sink (say the hot tarmac/concrete) surrounding an airplane may have on the overall temperature or comfort level of a dark or white parked aircraft.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:55 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 9):

Does anyone know if they will do one in the Steelers logo since they still have a very big presence in PIT?
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 30):
Does anyone know if they will do one in the Steelers logo since they still have a very big presence in PIT?

We can all hope. I love the special schemes.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:10 am

I'd imagine livery changes aren't at the top of the list right now in Parker's mind. . .
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:14 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 31):
We can all hope. I love the special schemes.

I love the special schemes as well Big grin

Quoting USAirPlatinum (Reply 32):
I'd imagine livery changes aren't at the top of the list right now in Parker's mind. . .

The Arizona Cardinals special livery was introduced only recently. How is that explained?

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:07 pm

They'll be saying "business as usual" for the next couple of weeks, but if Parker gets the answer from the creditors that I'm expecting he'll get, the next big livery question will be "how quickly can all the planes say 'Delta' on the side," that's all.  Smile

Besides, the sports teams liveries, like the heritage liveries, are relatively cheap and great marketing. I'm a bit sadder that it's becoming less and less likely that the dark-blue US east birds will ever get a "new US" paint job.

I wonder what the "new Delta" livery will look like?
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:09 pm

Quoting USAirPlatinum (Reply 34):
Besides, the sports teams liveries, like the heritage liveries, are relatively cheap and great marketing.

You are absolutely right, these special liveries are very great marketing tools as they get attention from both the media as well as passengers. When I was in Aruba a week ago I was hoping US would use the PSA heritage livery, that aircraft is so beautiful because it reminds me of the time I was in SFO in the '80s when PSA was still flying. It would also be very nice if AirCal was repainted as well. I think AA took over this airline, am I correct? It would be a very nice heritage livery as well!!!

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:46 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 33):
Quoting USAirPlatinum (Reply 32):
I'd imagine livery changes aren't at the top of the list right now in Parker's mind. . .

The Arizona Cardinals special livery was introduced only recently. How is that explained?

"Livery change" implies painting ALL birds with a modified paint job. Special liveries (one or a few planes with a special paint job) are not "livery change." That's different.

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 31):
Quoting Luketenley (Reply 30):
Does anyone know if they will do one in the Steelers logo since they still have a very big presence in PIT?

We can all hope. I love the special schemes.

Here's to seeing Terrible Towel One at some point in the future!!!  champagne 

Quoting A388 (Reply 35):
When I was in Aruba a week ago I was hoping US would use the PSA heritage livery, that aircraft is so beautiful because it reminds me of the time I was in SFO in the '80s when PSA was still flying.

Man, are you going to wish you were me on the morning of Christmas Eve. I was waiting with my girlfriend and her parents as they were waiting to depart for FLL (this is roughly around 9:30/10 am)from PHL. I saw the PSA retro jet taxiing out to the runway. A few hours later, I think I caught the Allegheny Airlines jet as well, although that one was too far away to get a good pic. I did snap one of the PSA jet though. I will post that when I do my trip report on PIT-PHL-PIT. It was my first time ever with Republic airlines and the Embraer 170 series aircraft!

For a sneak peek, if you will, both flights were absolutely awesome!!!!!!
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:39 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 37):
Here's to seeing Terrible Towel One at some point in the future!!!

With a name like that, WN should get into it!
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:54 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 37):
Man, are you going to wish you were me on the morning of Christmas Eve. I was waiting with my girlfriend and her parents as they were waiting to depart for FLL (this is roughly around 9:30/10 am)from PHL. I saw the PSA retro jet taxiing out to the runway. A few hours later, I think I caught the Allegheny Airlines jet as well, although that one was too far away to get a good pic. I did snap one of the PSA jet though. I will post that when I do my trip report on PIT-PHL-PIT. It was my first time ever with Republic airlines and the Embraer 170 series aircraft!

For a sneak peek, if you will, both flights were absolutely awesome!!!!!!

Man, you were indeed very lucky! I hope to see these aircraft as well one day. I am anxiously waiting on your trip report and photos! Keep me informed!

Regards,

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting Molykote (Reply 29):
The darker airplane will both absorb and radiate more effectively than a white airplane. However, the net difference between these two is what will influence passenger comfort (and long term paint condition) along with other factors of course.

Your first sentence was correct, but I would cast doubt onyour second sentence. Do they not have A/C in Phoenix to plug into the planes? If you happen to have personal knowledge about old US's practices in PHX and LAS (since it flew to both pre-merger), I'm certainly all ears.

PS, Why does Royal Jordanian have black planes?

As for paint chipping and falling away, you very well could be spot on. I don't know much about paint.  Smile
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:27 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 27):
I boarded a US F-100 back in CLT in 1998 (or so), the L1 had been replaced with a door from another US F-100 in the former livery. . .

I flew a 733 Silver US with a New US (Dark Blue) L1 and R1 door around 1998 as well. LGA-BWI.

I was able to catch a myriad of US operated flights at DCA at the same moment this week, US NC/OC A319, HP Retro, Allegheny, PSA, Piedmont, Colgan Colors Saab, US NC/OC CRJ-200, OC ERJ-145, and most of all N657BR (Continental Colors) all flying for US. Looked like a Circus Show. Mostly has to do with the heritage US East jets usually on Shuttle Runs.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:40 am

Supa7E7, Malaysia, & ANC,

While I agree with the logic of having an all-white radome colour, I still find the front too abrupt. perhaps we could persuade US to simply taper the belly colours (as in that "suggested livery") to just behind the radome?

Well, one can dream, anyways...
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting Captaink (Reply 18):
After (new coloured 737)

Thanks. Are these 737s all from HP, or have some US 737s been repainted as well?
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:36 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 43):
Thanks. Are these 737s all from HP, or have some US 737s been repainted as well?

I think its HP only for now.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:13 am

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 44):
I think its HP only for now.

Thanks. That explains why I haven't seen any at DCA yet.
 
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:28 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
I know it's a total pipe dream, but I really wish that the airline could keep half the fleet in white and half the fleet in blue.

Actually, there is one US 767 (reg.# N248AY formerly N648US) that is still in the dark blue scheme. Not sure why this one's not been repainted yet; all the other 767s were repainted by the middle of this past year.

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 44):
Quoting D L X (Reply 43):
Thanks. Are these 737s all from HP, or have some US 737s been repainted as well?

I think its HP only for now.

Correct. Since it will be the America West's name that's being phased out; the repainting focus has primarily shifted over to HP's (aka US-West) fleet. So US' (aka US-East) peeling (and I do mean peeling) 733s/734s will soldier on a while longer in the dark blue scheme. Any additional US planes receiving the new livery (beyond the HP planes) will be new deliveries (ex. the E190s and the additional A321s).

Quoting D L X (Reply 40):
Why does Royal Jordanian have black planes?

Actually, Royal Jordanian's latest livery has a lighter (but still by no means, light) shade of grey. As far as why their planes (in the dark scheme) aren't pealing but US' (at least in their Boeing fleet) are could be for several reasons:

1. Royal Jordanian's planes may be (guess on my part) repainted more frequently. Assuming that they have a lower number of planes in their fleet than US; the repainting cycles could (key word could) occur more frequent.

2. Not all airplane paint is necessarily created equal in terms of quality & durability. Maybe Royal Jordanian invests more money and uses a better quality paint.

3. Are there any planes in Royal Jordanian's fleet that still use a metallic fuselage (a la Boeing)? I know they did fly the L1011 for a while (do they still do?). Maybe the composite materials in the Airbus' fuselage does not cause paint to peel under the heat as much. Worth noting: I have yet to see any dark-colored US Airbii that have the same peeling paint issues as their Boeings.
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:03 am

I like the Sports Teams livery that sometimes grace their fleet. In Kona about 7 months ago, I saw the Arizona Diamondbacks plane (757). Its a nice touch and brings good marketing to both the airline and the organization its representing. DL has done it with different organizations WN has done it, AS, had their Disneyland plane, and CO has the Peter Max 777. I would like to see more of this. Naturally I realize its not a big priority and most of the majors have other things to worry about.

As for US specifically, I prefer the White Livery. It looks more sophisticated. Not to mention the issue of PHX and LAS being the big stations they are. Black planes would get REALLY hot there. But in PHL in the winter time, they might need some heat to be absorbed.  Wink
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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:09 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 47):
I like the Sports Teams livery that sometimes grace their fleet.

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RE: US Airways Livery And 2006 In Review

Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:00 pm

i love the new livery, it gives US airways a fresh look!! and the livary looks simple and fresh and nice!!!!


the new cardinals jet is also nice!!!!

i hope US airways come out with new special logo jets


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