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JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:34 am

Just saw a quick blurb of the plane on the monitor in the newsroom. Passengers are being evacuated (slowly and orderly), bags are being unloaded, and workers are looking at one of the engines.

I might be able to post more as it becomes available, but I have to make promo's starting at 3, so someone else chime in if they get to it before I do.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:36 am

Bird Strike.

*filler*

*garbledy gook*
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:41 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 1):
Bird Strike

At what airport? Was it an A-320 series or an E-170/-190? If the pax are evacuating, orderly or otherwise, was this an aboarted TO? That would be the only bird strike case I can think of for an evac. Otherwise just taxi to the gate and off load normally.

No injuries, I hope.
 
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:44 am

Bird strikes are obviously very dangerous but it sounds like B6 has it well in hand.
 
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:45 am

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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:52 am

Were they actually "evacuated", or just offloaded normally? I've experienced a bird strike, and we just turned around, landed, taxied in, sat infront of the gate for a few minutes, and then we just deplaned normally.


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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:03 am

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 5):
Were they actually "evacuated", or just offloaded normally?

Yeah, I wanted to find out too. Reading the article, it just seems they were orderly taken off the plane via stairs as they do usually in LGB.

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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting Stlgph (Thread starter):

What airport?
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
What airport?

Article says LGB.

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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:31 am

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 8):

Thanks, sir.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 5):
Were they actually "evacuated", or just offloaded normally? I've experienced a bird strike, and we just turned around, landed, taxied in, sat infront of the gate for a few minutes, and then we just deplaned normally.


CanadianNorth

It's usually called an "Air Return" - if MX finds that the strike is not within limits then they'll swap it out.LGB normally has a spare aircraft to recover situations like these. Passengers will deplane the aircraft, not evacuate in this type of instance.

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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:35 am

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...4/history/20061226/1857Z/KLGB/KOAK

Looks like the replacement flight just tookoff headed for OAK.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 10):
Passengers will deplane the aircraft, not evacuate in this type of instance.

Thanks, so I would imagine it was much the same as my experience in 2004, when we basically just went back to the gate, grabbed our stuff and walked off the same as one would get off any other flight.



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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:48 am

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 10):
It's usually called an "Air Return" - if MX finds that the strike is not within limits then they'll swap it out.LGB normally has a spare aircraft to recover situations like these. Passengers will deplane the aircraft, not evacuate in this type of instance.

love the media.

Just a flight that didn't end routinely at the originally planned destination--no fireball, no TV movie of the week.

Nothing to see here folks; move along...  Wink
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:13 am

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 6):
Yeah, I wanted to find out too. Reading the article, it just seems they were orderly taken off the plane via stairs as they do usually in LGB.

Yep. Everyone in the video was coming off in a nice orderly fashion. The feed was from an air traffic helicopter that hovered over the area for a few minutes.

Sorry I couldn't get back to updating this earlier, I had to cut action for the 5 p.m. news.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:18 am

When does a disembarkation become an evacuation?
When does a murder become an assassination?

I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

As far as assassination is concerned, how important do you have to be? I would not want to be murdered, but assassination has a nice ring to it.  Wink
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:33 am

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):
I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

I was thinking something along the lines of:

Deplane = get up, grab your stuff when there's room and walk off normally
Evacuate = crew has everyone get out as fast as possible (which would often involve slides etc.)


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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:38 am

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 16):

3. something evacuated or discharged.
4. the removal of persons or things from an endangered area
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):
I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

I'd readily agree that your interp and context are correct...

That said, remember the old adage, "Sell the sizzle, not the steak." Precisely why the correctly-termed but "boring-sounding" cockpit voice recorders (CVRs) and flight data recorder (FDRs; DFDRs these days), are replaced by the jazzier term "black boxes." Turning Korean flight #7 (the 747 shootdown by the Rooskies back in the early 1980s) into "Korean Double-Oh-Seven" was another example.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:56 am

An evacuation usually involves pax being deplaned without their belongings,(slide are only used if the situation merits it ie.fire or so on) where the plane sits, whereas disembarkation would be at a gate.
 
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):
I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

Some airlines have different levels of evacuations. There could be a 'precautionary evacuation' (after say an APU fire or fuel spill) via one or two doors on the opposite side of the aircraft using stairs. These types of situations are still an evacuation in the everyone would leave luggage behind and move to the exits relatively quickly.

At any stage this could be upgraded into a full blown evacuation where all other available (and safe) exits are opened and rapid egress of passengers begins. FAs at a door with stairs would then have passengers at this door moving alot quicker using different commands.

The above applicable for my airline anyway. (The situation at LGB today was obviously not as dramatic or critical. I just wanted to point out that an 'evacuation' can sometimes mean stairs are used at one or more doors and possibly slides at others.)
 
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:35 am

The press once again blows another out of proportion. Maybe the press needs some A/Netters on their staff.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:54 pm

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 20):

I'm with Miami1. Slides or no slides, leaving bags behind suggests urgency so it would have to fall into the definition of evacuation. I mean, you don't leave bags behind when deplaning (at least, not intentionally).
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:58 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 9):
Thanks, sir.

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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:04 pm

Quoting Stlgph (Thread starter):
but I have to make promo's starting at 3



Quoting STLGph (Reply 14):
Sorry I couldn't get back to updating this earlier, I had to cut action for the 5 p.m. news

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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:36 pm

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 21):
The press once again blows another out of proportion. Maybe the press needs some A/Netters on their staff

No they don't because every story would turn in to airbus v. boeing, everybody else's opinion would be flat wrong (except for the reporters), and jetBlue would be the official airline of god.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:08 pm

My heart goes out to the bird and it's family

[Edited 2006-12-27 14:09:12]
 
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:36 pm

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 21):
The press once again blows another out of proportion. Maybe the press needs some A/Netters on their staff.

This is something we have all known for a long long time. We also need a.netters on the staff of every Hollywood (& Dollywood/Bollywood) production, TV show, cable news, Broadway musical, sporting event, etc., for the correct identification of airlines, aircraft and other generally minute or trivial details regarding this industry. Why? Because it ticks us all off so much when they get these important details wrong!

OK, maybe not sporting events. I just included that because I happen to like sports as well.
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:56 am

Quoting Asteriskceo (Reply 26):
My heart goes out to the bird and it's family

Yes, another sad day for the aviation world (isn't this the required line?)...how regrettable. I imagine the NTSB and the bird watcher society of America will launch an investigation fortwith.
 
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:50 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 24):
We are all V E R Y impressed. Yeah sure

and i'm glad that you are, especially you. last time I posted something on here about a plane having some difficulties...I got lamblasted (by you) because I had to go be on tv (since my public needs me) and couldn't back here in time with the correct updates.

it's not my fault your job isn't as glamourous as mine, so don't take it out on me. i worked hard to get where i am and the opportunity to get recognized by the adoring public when I am playing mini golf.

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 21):
The press once again blows another out of proportion. Maybe the press needs some A/Netters on their staff.

how so?

there's nothing out of proportion about it.

airplane takes off, returns to ground, unloads passengers and cargo in an unrulely fashion...people wanna know what's up. travel anywhere since Sept 11, 2001?
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RE: JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated

Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:06 pm

Quoting Asteriskceo (Reply 26):
My heart goes out to the bird and it's family

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