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Qantas 707 - VH-XBA - What Next? (2 Pics)

Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:20 pm

I drove to Domestic T3 in Syd this morning at 6.30am, and on my return home VH-XBA had been moved from Hangar 416 (where she's resided since arriving before Christmas), and was parked against the fence bordering Airport Drive.

I had my camera, but there was no way I could stop - all "No Stopping" on that part of the road. She looked fantastic, but I am wondering if there are any Qantas ground crew on here who might know anything about about when - or where she is scheduled to go ? Some talk has been that she will do a few "visits" before her final last journey to Longreach?

I have checked with the Qantas Memorial Foundation Website, but there has only been one update since the XBA arrived. On an earlier thread someone mentioned they were going onto the Jetbase to take pics - but I don't think we ever got to see the results.

I have heard there has been some form of "embargo" on the a/c while in SYD. Apparently there was a documentary film crew on board during the ferry from Southend UK, so perhaps there is going to be some form of doco - or tv special?

Sam Chui provided some photos to the website of the hangar welcome - but other than that there is little to see apart from on A.net and the "other" site.

Come on Aussie people...... help us out pleeeeease?

(Photos courtesy of Sam Chui and the QMF website)

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Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:29 pm

there is a full thread on this bird already...try searching for it.
 
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:00 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 1):
there is a full thread on this bird already...try searching for it.

Yeah - and it ran out of steam !

I revived it - and will probably get the big "D" from the mods because nobody has bothered, and all they worry about is "matching words' on the data base.

What is wrong with Aussie ???............ this is something SPECIAL, and nobody seems to give a bugger?

I'm a Kiwi - and to me it is a very significant event. I realise that things have been quiet, but perhaps for promotional purposes, thats the way it has to be. Be fortunate that you had these a/c flying in Australia! We didn't have much of an option around that time in NZ - (Electras, then DC-8's).

Ok Mods......... dump the thread (I had to go back 3 pages even to find it! thats how OLD it is!!!!)

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Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:33 pm

Absolutely beautiful bird - classic style - I only wish I had the opportunity to fly on a 707 before their demise (although I did fly on some KC135s of the USAF back in '86)
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:37 pm

KiwiTEAL

On an earlier thread someone mentioned they were going onto the Jetbase to take pics - but I don't think we ever got to see the results.


That would be me KiwiTEAL... I have a few exclusive photos of the bird which I am happy to forward to you...
Hopefully if I have time tomorrow I will head out and take a few more snap shots of the bird before she heads onto her tour of Australia.
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:54 pm

here is the other discussion QF 707 VH-XBA (by Anthonyspider Dec 13 2006 in Civil Aviation)
and the pics I put up recently in it:
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:30 am

The aircraft is placed in a spot where you can see it alright as you drive past, but cannot get a clear photo. You can't just walk up to the fences anymore in SYD and take your photos, especially where the 707 is parked, as the fence that is nearest to the aircraft is on the QF jet base.

She has moved once since being parked in it's present position, that was to a run up bay last week, but I don't know if they actually started her up.

Nobody really knows as to when and indeed where it's next flight is. There is talk the government wants them to do a tour of the country, as they put cash in they probably want some publicity out of it. There is also the talk that CASA have told them that the airworthy cerificate issued to them, only allows for one more flight and that is to Longreach.

So in other words, there has been little info about it, simply because nobody has a bloody clue and I doubt QF, the Founders Museum and anybody else really has a clue. You can rest assured that as soon as someone gets the inside info, they will spill it.

Personally I reckon she will depart SYD on January 26th (Australia Day) do a circuit of Sydney Harbour, do a low fly-by over Canberra, then head up to Longreach. That way the government and QF will get national publicity and CASA will get there way as she will only perform one more flight.

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Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:23 am

The plane has only been insured and certified for 25 cycles, its used a few of at SEN and a few on flights back to oz so it can do a few more flights before it has to be hangered.

Well unless they apply for certification again.
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:48 am

Quoting Jupiter2 (Reply 6):
There is also the talk that CASA have told them that the airworthy cerificate issued to them, only allows for one more flight and that is to Longreach.

So in other words, there has been little info about it, simply because nobody has a bloody clue and I doubt QF, the Founders Museum and anybody else really has a clue. You can rest assured that as soon as someone gets the inside info, they will spill it.

Personally I reckon she will depart SYD on January 26th (Australia Day) do a circuit of Sydney Harbour, do a low fly-by over Canberra, then head up to Longreach. That way the government and QF will get national publicity and CASA will get there way as she will only perform one more flight.

avalon is pushing for it to be displayed there, the federal govt is also making noises for this bird to do a capital cities tour of Australia. rightly so if you ask me, the plane is part of Australia's heritage not just Sydney & Longreach.

http://abc.net.au/news/australia/qld/longr/200612/s1814589.htm
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting Jupiter2 (Reply 6):
Personally I reckon she will depart SYD on January 26th (Australia Day) do a circuit of Sydney Harbour, do a low fly-by over Canberra, then head up to Longreach.

I understand it will be visiting Brisbane Airport before going onto Longreach.

Does anyone have any info as to when it will be coming here to BNE? I'm interested in seeing it there.
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:57 pm

Hey A.Netter's...
Sadly I wasnt able to get those snap shots I promised I would get today... As I got to the Qantas Jetbase, a Qantas tug was towing her away to I believe a remote area / hangar due to the thunderstormed which has moved in this evening... I have promised snap shots of VH-XBA and I will stick to that promise...
Once again I have got exclusive snap shots of VH-XBA departing Southend on her ferry flight and never before seen photos of the crew which carried out the ferry flight of this beauty and bringing her back to home soil where she belongs... I am more than happy to e-mail these snap shots to anyone who is interested (I wont be posting these snap shots on the site)... Cheers!

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Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:19 pm

Quoting Jupiter2 (Reply 6):
The aircraft is placed in a spot where you can see it alright as you drive past, but cannot get a clear photo. You can't just walk up to the fences anymore in SYD and take your photos, especially where the 707 is parked, as the fence that is nearest to the aircraft is on the QF jet base.

check my post above yours (reply 5)  Wink
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:41 pm

That Sam Chui (God bless him) reminds me of Superman. He shows up at the right place at just the right time. How does the man do it?
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:30 pm

Well I'm in Longreach (particually to see XBA) in Early February. Won't be pleased if its not there.


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Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:10 am

Zkpilot,

Yes mate I know where you took those photos from, I drive past there 20 times a day. It's not like in the past though when you could casually park in the QF staff car park there, pull you ladder out, walk up to the fence, take your shots and casually walk away, totally in view of security etc, and have no hassles at all. I do notice the window reflection on your shots, I assume you were in a crew bus ??

She is back in her corner now, just teasing us as per usual.

Does have another old QF aircraft next to her at the moment, N2767, I believe is an exQF 767-238.

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Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:12 pm

Hello A.Netters!
Well I have the pictures! The photos arent those a professional photographer but they are passable!

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Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:22 pm

Acceptable!

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Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:31 pm

Quoting Jupiter2 (Reply 14):
Yes mate I know where you took those photos from, I drive past there 20 times a day. It's not like in the past though when you could casually park in the QF staff car park there, pull you ladder out, walk up to the fence, take your shots and casually walk away, totally in view of security etc, and have no hassles at all. I do notice the window reflection on your shots, I assume you were in a crew bus ??

She is back in her corner now, just teasing us as per usual.

yeah go the good old days...
reflection? hmmm that would be telling  Wink
pity all that equipment was in the way tho...
to be honest I don't really see what security has an issue with in regards to this...they aren't military aircraft... its not like terrorists can do anything with a camera. What it comes down to is security don't like having people hanging about next to the airport boundary fence making nuisances of themselves
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:57 pm

Hi EK413

Sent you a IM 3 days ago with my email if thats ok ?

Cheers

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Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:05 pm

KiwiTEAL

Hi EK413

Sent you a IM 3 days ago with my email if thats ok ?

Cheers

John


I have no problem e-mailing the images... I havent received you email details...

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Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:52 pm

Just an update on VH-XBA guys...

I spoke to the supervisor looking after the aircraft and have an update as to whats going on with this beauty... She is currently under going repairs in one of the Qantas hangers (not to sure as to which hanger)... The aircraft had a fuel leak and I beleive a few teething problems...
At this stage a  Confused lies over the ferry flight to Longreach... 25th,26th was the schedule....
Will keep everyone posted...

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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:25 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 20):
Just an update on VH-XBA guys...

I spoke to the supervisor looking after the aircraft and have an update as to whats going on with this beauty... She is currently under going repairs in one of the Qantas hangers (not to sure as to which hanger)... The aircraft had a fuel leak and I beleive a few teething problems...
At this stage a Confused lies over the ferry flight to Longreach... 25th,26th was the schedule....
Will keep everyone posted...

Got an email today from the 707news@qofm newsgroup indicating that a limited capital city tour was firming up as the likely option prior delivery to Longreach. The email also indicated ongoing maintenance as confirmed above was being undertaken and further engine runs on the ground had been conducted. It also indicated that it must get to Longreach soon simply because some components were on loan and needed to be returned in the short term. No city, date or other details were provided. My assumption from this is that departure of VH-XBA from SYD to who knows where next would be sooner rather than later given the activity that is taking place.
 
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:51 pm

Just a silly little question....if you look at the very first pic of the 707 in the hangar, the registration on the tail "VH-KBA" seems to be written in mirror effect....any reason for that .... ?
 
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Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:09 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 22):
Just a silly little question....if you look at the very first pic of the 707 in the hangar, the registration on the tail "VH-KBA" seems to be written in mirror effect....any reason for that .... ?

I see what you mean but I think it's just some distortion in the image, maybe when it was resized??

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Reply 22, posted Fri Jan 12 2007 15:51:08 UTC+1 (14 hours 5 minutes 41 secs ago) and read 176 times:


Just a silly little question....if you look at the very first pic of the 707 in the hangar, the registration on the tail "VH-KBA" seems to be written in mirror effect....any reason for that .... ?


The rego. VH-XBA is for flying perposes only and once in her final resting place up in Longreach the aircraft will wear her original rego. VH-EBA...

The 'X' marks the spot  Wink... Its only a sticker...

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Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:21 pm

Quoting Jasond (Reply 21):

What parts are loaned?

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Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:25 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 25):
What parts are loaned?

The email I got didn't say, sorry.
 
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Quoting Jasond (Reply 26):
The email I got didn't say, sorry.

Care to paste the e-mail for us to see? I sent an e-mail to join the list before the flight started and didn't get added...
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Reply 27, posted Sat Jan 13 2007 16:03:28 UTC+1 (10 hours 40 minutes 30 secs ago) and read 112 times:


Quoting Jasond (Reply 26):
The email I got didn't say, sorry.

Care to paste the e-mail for us to see? I sent an e-mail to join the list before the flight started and didn't get added...


First I hear of the aircraft having parts on loan  Confused
As far as I know it, over the 2 years of restoration parts had been located and bought from all over the globe... I believe if parts couldnt be found they had parts custom made...

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:08 am

http://www.707.adastron.com/qfm/707-news.htm

There's the news from the source - yes, some of the parts are borrowed.
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:51 am

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 27):
Care to paste the e-mail for us to see? I sent an e-mail to join the list before the flight started and didn't get added...

Here it is below. I signed up some time ago when I heard they were bringing it over:

Hi everyone,

I trust that you all have had a very enjoyable Christmas and your 2007
has stated out being a great year.

Of course the 707 has arrived in Australia with the reception being held
in one of the Qantas hangars in Sydney. We need to thank Qantas for organising this event, it went off very well thanks to the work and resources that they put into the event.

What has been happening since! Our instructions were that the volunteers
were to go home and spend some time with their families, however to keep XBA in flying condition they have been doing starting the engines (on a Friday I believe). What would we do without this band of dedicated enthusiasts?

The Qantas Foundation Memorial and the Qantas Founders Museum boards
have been planning and going through the options to get the aircraft back to Longreach and locating it when she arrives. In Longreach a hangar has been removed and surveys have taken place. Longreach is a working airport so
we thank the Longreach Shire Council for assisting us in locating the 707 that will allow it to become another major attraction at the Qantas Founders Museum.

Just as it was prior to the flight to Australia, options abound for the flight to Longreach. Ranging from a single hop as early as possible to giving the Australian public the opportunity to have a look at the aircraft and even visiting an airshow! The Boards have decided that the opportunity to show the aircraft to the Australian people and acknowledge the assistance provided by the Australian Government (Department of Environment and Heritage) and Qantas is too important to miss, however in saying that there still is a lot of work to be done. Old aircraft don't just sit and wait for the next flight, the maintenance is amazing and all components expire. We are also using some borrowed parts that will need to be returned at some time (I hope they don't miss them too soon!)

So the plan is that the City of Canberra will have one last goodbye to at least some of the cities she graced in her youth, the extent of this will depend on maintenance (if it is not 100%, it will not fly), and the funds available. I will keep this list informed when we have definite details.

Thanks for your interest in this project, knowing so many are passionate about this aircraft does influence the boards decisions.

Paul

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This is crap on stick for me. I was planning a side trip to Longreach as I will be in Brisbane in March. I'm not sure it's even going to be there now by then. I was going to postpone it on the basis that it would go on a capital city tour but I'm not sure there will be a justification to bring it to Perth (some cities only it seems) so the next opportunity to see it for me might not be until October, oh well.
 
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:16 am

Quoting Jasond (Reply 30):
I'm not sure there will be a justification to bring it to Perth (some cities only it seems

don't see why it wouldn't come to Perth, to send it only to east coast cities would seem entirely selfish on behalf of the QFM. after all, the govt has paid a fair amount of tax payer dollars towards this plane, and Perth has the 2nd highest amount of upper tax bracket payers in the country.
 
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:41 am

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 31):
don't see why it wouldn't come to Perth, to send it only to east coast cities would seem entirely selfish on behalf of the QFM. after all, the govt has paid a fair amount of tax payer dollars towards this plane, and Perth has the 2nd highest amount of upper tax bracket payers in the country.

I would love it if it did. Reading between the lines though:

"So the plan is that the City of Canberra will have one last goodbye to at least some of the cities she graced in her youth, the extent of this will depend on maintenance (if it is not 100%, it will not fly), and the funds available...."

Might be a tough call when it comes down to it. Lets hope there is that recognition that great business is being done out of Perth currently as you have pointed out. Looking at the ANet database there is quite a few images of QF 707's in there so it wasn't exactly a stranger here.