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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:36 pm

Does anybody heard about an explossion on T4 -new terminal- of MAD Barajas?
All I heard was something about an explossion on car parking, but no news about damages.

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:37 pm

It's on CNN right now. Sounds like a lot of confusion and panic. People trying to get out of terminal 4. Reuters says a bomb threat was phoned in in advance.

Mark

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:41 pm

Some local digital newspapers says there are eight ambulances. Hope no ones is injured.

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:47 pm

2 Police officers are injured. The bomb exploded around 9:00 local time in the car parking.

I'll better refrain from making any comments about coward terrorists (and those who deal with them) or I could be banned from this forum for life.

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:49 pm

Anyone claimed Responsibility.
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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:49 pm

Saw the news report on CNN. The anchor was suggesting it may be in connection with Saddam's hanging?

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:49 pm

>>Extensive damage at parking garage at Terminal 4
>>Terminal 4 partially hit by explosion
>>car bomb at 0900LT
>>car bomb warning at 0815LT
>>no immediate casualties

from CNN Radio.

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:50 pm

MAD still open. Terminal 4 closed. Other terminals are open. Car bomb in parking garage. The garage has partially collapsed.
 
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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:53 pm

Radio is saying right now all data points to a terrorist action by ETA.

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:55 pm

Quoting SA006 (Reply 5):
The anchor was suggesting it may be in connection with Saddam's hanging?

Doubt it. Such a terrorist attack needs a substantional time of preparation, and as they didnt know when exactly Saddam would be executed that assumption is pretty ridicolous, furthermore, why would they bomb Spain? It wern't the Spanish who sent Saddam to death.
 
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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:56 pm

ETA is that Basque group. They've attacked in Spain before.

Mark

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Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:57 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 10):
ETA is that Bathist group

The Baath party are from Iraq. The Basques are from Spain.  Wink
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RE: Explossions At MAD?

Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:57 pm

All flights leaving from/arriving to T4 have been suspended. The terminal has been evacuated and there are lots of passengers on the aprons.

First reports say this could be ETA's work, although nobody mentioned their name when they called to say there was a bomb at the airport.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:08 pm

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 12):
All flights leaving from/arriving to T4 have been suspended

At this moment, only departing flights are suspended.

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:09 pm

According to El Pais it's ETA. Three injured.
http://www.elpais.com/

now wait a minute, I thought Zapatero and ETA had a cease fire agreement at the moment. What happened?
Good news is that apparently there are just a few injured and no casualties.  Smile
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:16 pm

I think ETA didn't want any injuries if it is actually them who carried the attack. It seems that the warning was to keep the people safe and avoid casualties!
 
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:22 pm

Quoting EK156 (Reply 16):
I think ETA didn't want any injuries if it is actually them who carried the attack. It seems that the warning was to keep the people safe and avoid casualties!

Possibly, but in any case, they are proving that any type of agreement with the govt' is impossible, and that they still have the capacity to do what they want. This could easily have been a massacre
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:28 pm

Quoting Stil (Reply 13):
At this moment, only departing flights are suspended.

I would like to know how are they handling the arriving passengers then if the terminal has been evacuated by the police.

I can't confirm this but, according to www.elpais.com the entire airport is now closed to traffic.

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:43 pm

Iberia offices at MAD has no comunication system. Orders are standing by and wait...
Air Nostrum has cancelled several flights and Iberia has strong delays on flight to MAD

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:53 pm

Latest news are explosion was controlled by police, as they had a phone warning describing the car with the bomb.

Quoting EK156 (Reply 16):
I think ETA didn't want any injuries



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 17):
This could easily have been a massacre

I agree, but the target was choosen carefully. Will my car get screened when entering an airport? Bad news for aviation, I'm afraid

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:03 pm

Quoting Stil (Reply 20):
explosion was controlled by police, as they had a phone warning describing the car with the bomb

Yes. It had been said by the press earlier. It was a dark-red Renault Traffic van.

Anyway, it seems that the damage to the parking building structure is heavy as the roof has collapsed, and the Terminal building has also sustained damage due to it's huge glass surface.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:07 pm

I could be blind, but nothing on BBC world website... so weird. And just now on the news they didn't talk about it neither...
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:10 pm

Seems that the Police has arrived little late. Two police officers has injured without any fear about their lives and another were evacuated to the La Paz Hospital.

An anonymous call has received this morning in the DYA (a Basque association to help in the road) advertising about a Renault Traffic parked in the T4 parking with a great explosive and with the advertisement to not try anything (about to disconnect it).

When ETA made its cruel attempts not many years ago, always called to DYA announcing its plans.

Hoping the injured and their families will finish 2006 without to cry for anyone.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:10 pm

Quoting Stil (Reply 20):
I agree, but the target was choosen carefully.

Thankfully this time they chose a target that would not kill anyone, just structural damage. But the proof that they are still active is there  Sad
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:28 pm

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Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 21):
the damage to the parking building structure is heavy as the roof has collapsed

There is three injured, two policemen and a taxi driver.

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:45 pm

The explosion affected the Parking modules C-D. That's the area where part of the building structure has collapsed.

The modules A-B-E and F should be intact, and thanks to the huge capacity of the parking building, the available parking spaces will still be more than enough despite the fact that the modules C and D will have to be closed for repairs.

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:53 pm

Glad to hear no serious Human Damages.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:15 pm


Smoke column visible from some kilometers away.

Does anybody know if the terminal is still closed?
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:17 pm

Quoting BCNGRO (Reply 28):
Does anybody know if the terminal is still closed?

The terminal has reopened its doors at 14:00 hours with flights to VCE and CMN.

Aena recomends not to go to the T4 if there aren't a great reason.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:33 pm

Very glad to hear that there are no casualties in this bombing... T4 is such a great building - and something that all of us hope will be up and running (and repaired if necessary?) in the very near future.

Hope that the police & other injured have a speedy recovery...
 
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:53 pm

I hope too the injured people come out quicly from hospital.
I just booked yesterday a 2 days spotting in february to Madrid but know what will happened.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:23 am

Terrible news and terrible way for Spain to end 2006 seeing ETA break their cesaefire they've held since March.
I took off from Madrid this morning at 09:05 approximately on AF to TLS, must have been just around the time of the explosion.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:07 am

It's really a shame, although not unexpected (after all, let's not forget who we're dealing with here).

I guess it's just a matter of hours until someone blames it on the Popular Party or former president Aznar.
 
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:07 am

CNN Link: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/30/madrid.blast/index.html

The article talk about the ETA cease fire being dropped again..

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:18 am

I hate to sound a little less concerned about the people but man it's a shame Terminal 4 was targeted, it is such a beautiful piece of architecture!

Odd that Terminal 4 was targeted since ETA usually only targets areas where diplomats are, well except for the El Corte Ingles bombing in Barcelona and that string of bombs two summers ago.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 3):
I'll better refrain from making any comments about coward terrorists (and those who deal with them) or I could be banned from this forum for life.

I would be right at your side helping you defend your rights to speak your mind! I'm sure others would also.
 
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:32 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 36):
Odd that Terminal 4 was targeted since ETA usually only targets areas where diplomats are, well except for the El Corte Ingles bombing in Barcelona and that string of bombs two summers ago.

Is there proof that this was ETA, or could it be a copy cat group? Or...someone else?
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 38):
Is there proof that this was ETA, or could it be a copy cat group? Or...someone else?

According to CNN it was ETA.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 3):
I'll better refrain from making any comments about coward terrorists (and those who deal with them) or I could be banned from this forum for life

I guess I'm not the only one who P.O.'s the moderators with my political incorrectness. Let's give it another whirl! Spain is such a great, soft, easy target when it comes to terrorism.

So now that yet another major transportation facility in Spain has been bombed, with more loss of life and more loss of property, where will their Socialist PM retreat from next?

Now the good news. After 1,000 or so terrorist acts against Western Civilization in recent years, here (finally!) is one that can't be attributed to Islamo-Fascists.

And to keep on target, any flights disrupted?
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:57 am

It seems Two Ecuadorean men are unaccounted for and feared missing in the explosion...(Source : French TV..)

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:23 am

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 40):
Now the good news. After 1,000 or so terrorist acts against Western Civilization in recent years, here (finally!) is one that can't be attributed to Islamo-Fascists

There has been only one terrorist attack in Spain that can be attributed to Islamic terrorists.

Unfortunately, there have been hundreds of the other types. I can understand they don't always make headline news in your place but still I think your comment is a bit out of place.
 
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:13 am

There is no doubt this was an attack perpetrated by ETA. For those of you who know little about Spanish politics you should know that ETA is a terrorist group from the Basque region in Spain that fight for independence. ETA has killed many thousands during the past decades and nine months ago they "gave into politics" and announced a permanent cease fire.

Today they broke that cease fire.

However, you should know that most attacks before the cease fire was announced were bomb attacks, and normally ETA made a warning phone call before the given bombs were due to go off. In today’s bombing, and according to Spanish news, ETA announced the explosion to be programmed for 9:30AM when the detonation occurred at 8:58AM. This is not surprising as they tend to lie about the exact time of detonation in order to try and cause casualties amongst the emergency services personnel which tend to be the last to evacuate the area after civilians are out of danger.

Today, those ETA bastards planted between 200-500kg (Spanish TV data) of explosives in a stolen van parked in the parking block D at terminal 4. The explosion has created a 60 meter diameter crater and has consequently destroyed all 5 levels of the parking block.

I suppose this is my personal speculation at this time, but I don’t believe there is the slightest relation with Sadam Husein’s execution. Islamic terrorism does not exactly "call and warn".

Anyway, it seems that there are some 30 injured and two "unaccounted for". We all fear these two "uncounted persons" are amongst the rubble, and probably are not alive.

Terminal 4 is up and running once again (elpais.com) but authorities recommend travel to and from the airport using public transport. Cleaning and reconstruction will commence as soon as possible but smoke continues to emerge from the crater some 12 hours after the attack.

My thoughts and prayers are with those affected and with the brave men and women from the security forces who risked their lives, once again, trying to evacuate travelers from the vicinity of the explosion.

Needless to say this is a sad ending to 2006, but the ever lasting fight for common sense, civism, rational thought, democracy and freedom will prevail.

All the best for 2007,

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:43 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 36):
Odd that Terminal 4 was targeted since ETA usually only targets areas where diplomats are, well except for the El Corte Ingles bombing in Barcelona and that string of bombs two summers ago.

Not sure where you got that information but it is incorrect. They usually target police, military police (Guardia Civil), local police and politicians and they generally do not care much if bystanders are hurt/killed either. Their modus operandi generally consists of warning before a bomb goes of. During the past few years of their most active and bloody period, they would also employ a tactic in which they'd also hide a second bomb, generally in another car, in the vicinity of the first, to try to get as many police as possible.

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 40):
Spain is such a great, soft, easy target when it comes to terrorism.

What a load of horse-crap from an ignorant fool!

Where's Osama, BTW?

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 40):
So now that yet another major transportation facility in Spain has been bombed, with more loss of life and more loss of property, where will their Socialist PM retreat from next?

It is pretty obvious you know little if anything about ETA and their decades of terror. Terrorist-attacks in Spain aren't limited to periods with socialist-governments alone, you know.

Quoting JJJ (Reply 42):
Unfortunately, there have been hundreds of the other types. I can understand they don't always make headline news in your place but still I think your comment is a bit out of place.

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:16 am

Quoting Schoenorama (Reply 44):
It is pretty obvious you know little if anything about ETA and their decades of terror. Terrorist-attacks in Spain aren't limited to periods with socialist-governments alone, you know.

ETA has attacked with the PP in power, as well as with PSOE. Both parties, when in power, attempted different apporaches to defeat ETA, one being the "no negotiation with terrorists" approach by the PP and the other being more open to dialogue. Both approaches have failed, proving that these bastards won't stop at anything. They don't give a crap about who is in power. They just want to achieve their goals by trying to terrorize a population that has always beem strong and firm against their demands. If there is one thing that I must praise about the Spanish people (among many others, of course) is that they all stand together against ETA.
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:56 pm

Quoting Schoenorama (Reply 44):
Not sure where you got that information but it is incorrect. They usually target police, military police (Guardia Civil), local police and politicians and they generally do not care much if bystanders are hurt/killed either. Their modus operandi generally consists of warning before a bomb goes of. During the past few years of their most active and bloody period, they would also employ a tactic in which they'd also hide a second bomb, generally in another car, in the vicinity of the first, to try to get as many police as possible.

I was unclear with what I said but what you summed up was pretty much what I meant. I am very aware of what ETA does considering I have been in 4 cities that had a bomb go off when I was visiting and I am very knowledable in Spain's culture and history.

My apologizes for the mis-understandment.

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:46 pm

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 40):
Now the good news. After 1,000 or so terrorist acts against Western Civilization in recent years, here (finally!) is one that can't be attributed to Islamo-Fascists.

I only know of two terror attacks from Al Qaida in Europe: Madrid and London but there have been hundreds of attacks from ETA and IRA in Spain and UK and ETA and IRA are not muslim organisations.
 
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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:53 pm

At least it didn't go off closer to the terminal and destroy T4. I guess their method of setting them off in places like parking garages and warnign of the bomb is better than the other type (London, Madrid bombings).

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RE: Explosion At MAD Terminal 4

Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:11 am

Quoting Howard500 (Reply 43):
ETA has killed many thousands during the past decades

This is an incorrect statement. Since its founding in 1959, the ETA has murdered approximately 900 people and committed dozens of kidnappings, rather than the "many thousands" you describe. Of course, we can now add the two deaths now believed to have ocurred at MAD yesterday.

To the families and loved ones of ETA's victims, these statistics mean nothing; their lives have been destroyed. No doubt, the ETA are a bunch violent thugs. The ETA does not represent the political interests of the Basque people; they clearly see the organization for what it is, a terrorist group run by thugs. The ETA will never obtain its political objectives through violence and intimidation.