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AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:03 am

http://www.sinchew.com.my/content.phtml?sec=1&artid=200612301708

Malaysia's Chinese news website Sin Chew Daily reports, Air Asia will launch its first long-haul route from 2007.

Air Asia plans to announce the launch of low-cost, long-haul route in January 2007, the route will be London. Inaugural date to be set for July 2007, with a stop in Dubai. It'll be using either 777 or 330 on this route, in conjunction with FAX (Fly Asian Xpress).

As per report the ministry of transportation in Malaysia has approved Air Asia's approval.

According to unnamed source, Air Asia may be providing the fare at MYR19.99/USD5.66 one-way to London. However, such offering will be limited. The route will offer Economy and Super Economy Class service.

It says this will not affect Malaysia Airlines because the market they're targetting is different. "MAS offers expensive fare, not anyone with low income can afford to fly, including the Brits."

MAS' KUL-London round trip flight with tax included is about MYR4000-5000/USD1133-1416 in Economy

Air Asia currently offers up to 4hr regional flight. The London flight will be 13hrs.
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:05 am

Wow! $6?? That seems too good to be true! Of course, taxes & charges will bring that figure up quite a bit but it will still be a fantastic bargain!

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Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:12 am

How can any airline make money on a USD5.66 one way fare to London. It says this fare will be limited........yeah to one passenger? It wont take long for the fares to be similar to MHs.....maybe slightly cheaper!
 
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Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:26 am

Quoting Aussiestu (Reply 2):
maybe slightly cheaper!

It will be to attract competition. But MH is known for their service so it will be hard to beat MH. I guess the 5.66 fares will be offered for a couple of hours to fill their first flight to London.

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Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:49 am

That fare $6 one way will most likely just be a launch sale fare only, and as has been suggested by Aussiestu will eventually sit at a level just below MH
 
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:19 pm

I just checked Air Asia's website a minute ago. It would have made webpage headlines - but there was mention of it.

I wonder how well this sits with LCCs' usual policies of operating only 1 type of aircraft. Also wonder how the LCC Terminal at KUL would handle so many pax for just one flight.
 
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Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:55 pm

Would be cool as a customer if it happened.

Of course, its cheapest fare, if at $5.66 or whatever, would be lead-in only - that is, to attract customers through the WOW factor - and would be before tax and other fees are added. Moreover, it would adopt a yield management system so as to generate as much money as it can from each seat sold - just like Oasis' average fares are far more than its cheapest, lead-in fares.

Quoting 777MAS (Reply 5):
I wonder how well this sits with LCCs' usual policies of operating only 1 type of aircraft.

True, it would be against the normal principle of one aircraft (or various variants of one series), but easyJet operates two types of aircraft - the 319 and the 73G.

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Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:07 pm

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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:07 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
MAS' KUL-London round trip flight with tax included is about MYR4000-5000/USD1133-1416 in Economy

Interesting. Going the other way, LHR-KUL-LHR on MAS is currently selling for GBP403.00 on Malaysia Airlines own website. I just met my brother of the MH002 at LHR about 3 hours ago, and he paid £350, including tax, direct from MAS. He travelled out December 20th, returned December 30th.

GBP403 = USD790/MYR2787, approx, but of course, the fares ex-KUL may be higher.
 
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting EI787 (Reply 1):
Wow! $6?? That seems too good to be true! Of course, taxes & charges will bring that figure up quite a bit but it will still be a fantastic bargain!

Do we have another Oasis Hong Kong??? Big grin

or another Air Madrid ?
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Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:38 pm

Sounds like an airline to avoid if you ask me.
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Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:34 pm

Wonder what LON airport they would use - STN, LGW or even LHR

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
with a stop in Dubai.

Would they see KUL-DXB and DXB-LON tickets?
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:33 pm

Which London airport will it use, Stansted,Gatwick or LHR?

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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:13 am

Quoting Aussiestu (Reply 2):
How can any airline make money on a USD5.66 one way fare to London.

You can watch here at Anet how it works: offer a hanful of tickets virtually for free and you are for exchange in the press for free, as here in Anet. Certainly cheaper than a large advertising capaign. It's always the same game with the LCCs. Part two is only to offer seats for such a price you can't sell anyway.

Quoting Aussiestu (Reply 2):
yeah to one passenger?

Nope, at least five  Wink

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Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:45 am

Tony Fernandes has has great success with Air Asia regionally. Its only natural he go for the long haul. This adds complexity to his airline by operating wide body planes. Airbus would seem to have the advantage since Air Asia operates A320's already.
 
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Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:35 am

Quoting A350 (Reply 13):
Nope, at least five

Make it six just in case i need to go  Wink
 
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:16 pm

Quoting 777MAS (Reply 5):
I just checked Air Asia's website a minute ago. It would have made webpage headlines - but there was mention of it.

Sorry, my statement should have read "...there was NO mention of it..."

I checked the website a minute ago again, and there's still no mention of it, not even under the "NEW ROUTES (COMING SOON)" section.


That aside, I'd hate to think of a 13-hour flight where the seat pitch is 29 in. (compared to 34 on MH). I'm 5 ft 10 in. tall, and could just fit in with very little room to spare, so those of you who are taller may find it unbearable on such a long flight! Even worse is the possibility of a B777 with 10-abreast seating, or, worse still, a A330 with 9-abreast.

No inflight entertainment - so, pl. bring your own book. Feeling cold midway thru your flight? Bring your own blanket. The list goes on....
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:10 am

BBC News24 in London just reported about 10 mins ago that AirAsia is expected to make an announcement with EasyJet on Friday.

I expect this might mean Luton being used with connections being provided by U2...
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:34 am

It's definately happening:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...ory/0,20867,21002275-23349,00.html

I think Easyjet provides UK/Europe feed, the new carrier the UK/Europe links, Air Asia the Asian links, and possibly Virgin Blue the Asia to Australia and Australian domestic feed.

Intetesting concept!
 
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:30 pm

Quoting MAS777 (Reply 17):
I expect this might mean Luton being used with connections being provided by U2...

Doubt you can get a 330 or 777 out of LTN with a full load of pax and enough fuel to get to DXB - id say LGW first bet, STN second.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:10 pm

On Newsasia, it said that there will be a press conference on Friday concerning this.

I have read (newspapers) and heard (on T.V.) that it'll be Manchester (what about its potential alliance with easyJet and Virgin?) - no, it'll be London; no, it'll be this, no, it'll be that, etc. So, very little certainty.

Both easyJet and Virgin have said that no talks with Air Asia have happened.

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Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:26 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 20):
Both easyJet and Virgin have said that no talks with Air Asia have happened.

I find it hard to believe that Virgin would want an official association with Air Asia, and least of all EasyJet. I know they started off as low cost long haul, but they have changed into a different market now and I fail to see how the LCC business model would fit with them. Unless of course it is just a short term move to gain traffic rights to Malaysia, or even just a bit of free press.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 20):
James in Phnom Penh.

How much longer until it's James in Bideford again Wink

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Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:31 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 21):
How much longer until it's James in Bideford again

Haha. Well, been in S. E. Asia for 2 months now, with another month to go. Then will be in sunny N. Devon for a week or two before going to Glos. to work. Then back to uni for me.  Big grin By the way, Bideford's about 9 miles from where I originate. :P
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:25 am

Latest development on Newsasia is that they said a spokesperson said that it'd be operated by FAX, i.e. Fly Asian Express, which presently operates in Borneo using F50s. Hmm. Kota Kinabalu-Kuching-KUL-BKK-RGN-DAC-CCU-Varanasi-DEL-ATQ-LHE-... to Europe?  Silly LOL. Seems a tad far-fetched that FAX would acquire widebody aircraft, but nobody can definitely say until they confirm what's happening...

http://www.flyasianxpress.com/site/en/fax/home.jsp
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:01 pm

On CNBC this morning, it said that possible routes are Manchester, some destination in the U.A.E. (probably Dubai or Sharjah), Amritsar, Tianjin (not that far from Beijing) and Hangzhou (not that far from Shanghai). Will be interesting to see what happens...
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:49 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 14):
Tony Fernandes has has great success with Air Asia regionally. Its only natural he go for the long haul.

Is it also natural for FR, U2 and WN to go long-haul then? I reckon AirAsia should stay where they are and grow in the region (which is already huge enough!) - if you wanna do long-haul, do it with a seperate brand and a seperate operation.

Just my two cents anyway..!

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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:28 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 23):
Seems a tad far-fetched that FAX would acquire widebody aircraft, but nobody can definitely say until they confirm what's happening...

... as bizarre as it may sound, the news is finally confirmed

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story...007/1/5/nation/16482097&sec=nation

FAX given long-haul rights

PETALING JAYA: Fly Asian Xpress (FAX), the rural air services operator, has been given rights to operate long-haul flights to destinations in Asia, Australia and Europe.

The announcement by Transport Minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy confirms The Star report on Jan 1 that AirAsia boss Datuk Tony Fernandes was putting together a team to launch a long-haul budget airline operating out of Malaysia.

Chan said the Government was confident this new transportation strategy of having a low-cost long-haul airline would ensure the success of the Government’s plan for a major budget airline hub.
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:44 pm

well where is this bl**dy announcement?
wasn't it meant to be this morning?
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:54 pm

6th freedom - see other posts.

- Called Air Asia X (operated by FAX)
- Ordering 20x 777 or A330
- Flight start July this year
- Fare 9.99MYR +tax to London
 
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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:33 pm

Well, the announcement has been made and the fare between Kuala Lumpur and London will be as low as US$2.84!!!

Check out the article at: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...cific_business/view/250767/1/.html

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RE: AirAsia KUL To London From July 2007: USD6 One-way

Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:13 pm

Quoting Aussie_ (Reply 28):
Fare 9.99MYR +tax to London

Is it permanent or just for the first flight?
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:44 pm

Interesting to note that the A330 was featured sporting the AirAsia X colours during the press conference. Regular fares to the UK will be anywhere between USD80 and USD500.
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:34 pm

Currently a piece on this on Local Manchester news

One way from £40 it is saying.
They have not picked if it is goin to be MAN or LON
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Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:42 am

The following article from Air Transport Intelligence news answers some of your questions.

Industry sources say the Malaysia-based low-cost carrier's top
executives will be in Europe on Monday to unveil an order for over 30
Airbus A320s. The total order, including options, could exceed 100
A320s, they add. One well-placed source also says Airbus has agreed
to deliver some of the aircraft before 2012.
AirAsia already has 15 A320s and 35 Boeing 737s, and another 85 A320s
on firm order. However it needs even more A320s due to its rapid
expansion and as its associate carriers in Thailand and Indonesia are
keen to grow. The group, for example, wants to launch services to
India and additional services to China and the Philippines.
The A330-300 is also understood to be the front-runner for a 20
aircraft firm order from AirAsia X, the new long-haul low-cost
carrier that will be launched in July. The carrier, which is being
set up by AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes and several of his associates,
plans to launch in July with three leased aircraft and have the
purchased aircraft arrive later
One well-placed industry source, however, says Airbus and AirAsia X
may fail to conclude negotiations for A330s in time to make Monday's
announcement. Fernandes declined to say if the carrier had selected
A330-300s for the new long-haul operation, but he says that Air Asia
X will place an order for 20 widebodies by end-January.
AirAsia X plans to launch in July with services from Kuala Lumpur to
Tianjin and Hangzhou in China and from Kuala Lumpur to the UK, says
Fernandes.
He says the Malaysian government has granted AirAsia X traffic rights
to Birmingham and Manchester, and that it was looking at granting
rights to London. The government has ruled-out London Heathrow and
London Gatwick, but industry sources say AirAsia is likely to get
London Stansted.
Fernandes says they are considering the A330-300 and Boeing 777-300ER
for AirAsia X, which will operate only one aircraft type. He
describes Airbus' A330 replacement, the A350XWB, as the perfect
aircraft for AirAsia X. However, he adds that they are first looking
at the A330 as the A350XWB is a new aircraft type under development
and will only be available in later years.
Fernandes concedes that it will also be easier for AirAsia pilots to
move from the A320 to the A330 rather than to the 777-300ER. But the
777-300ER has the range to allow AirAsia X to go non-stop from its
Kuala Lumpur base to Europe, while the A330 would have to stop on the
way due to its shorter range.
When asked about the A330's shorter-range, Fernandes says: "I don't
think it is a problem." He says if AirAsia X decides to use the A330,
the aircraft will stop in the Middle East and that AirAsia X plans to
make the airfares low enough to entice travellers.
"I think if you could fly from Kuala Lumpur to London for $200, then
you would not mind stopping-over in Sharjah (in the United Arab
Emirates)," he says. Other Middle East stop-over points being
considered include Bahrain and Kuwait City but Fernandes adds that
AirAsia is unlikely to stop-over in Dubai.
The government has also granted AirAsia traffic rights to undisclosed
destinations in Australia, the Middle East and other points in
Europe.
Fernandes declines to discuss these but industry sources say Air Asia
X's Australian traffic rights include Avalon, a secondary airport
near Melbourne that Qantas Airways' low-cost carrier Jetstar
currently uses.
The Australian traffic rights exclude Melbourne and Sydney because
the rights are all being used by Malaysia Airlines. However, the
source adds that the government plans to negotiate a new air services
agreement with Australia that could help AirAsia X.