airlittoralguy
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US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:31 pm

Hi everyone.

I would like to know if someone can provide me with the schedule of the following flights :

The second daily PHL-CDG run flown a few years ago with 767 200
The daily CLT-CDG run flown a few years ago too.
The daily PIT-CDG run flown a few years ago.

Also if someone knows of UA LAX-CDG schedule, please let me know.
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AirCop
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:07 am

Quoting Airlittoralguy (Thread starter):
Also if someone knows of UA LAX-CDG schedule, please let me know.

Believe that should be SFO-CDG. AA ran LAX-CDG for a week and a half before they quit.
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
AA ran LAX-CDG for a week and a half before they quit.

A week and a half? That's pathetic. Why'd they even start it in the first place?
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:17 am

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 2):

A week and a half? That's pathetic. Why'd they even start it in the first place?

I was just kidding; American is famous for ending routes real soon after they started, I don't think this one lasted a year.
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:28 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
Believe that should be SFO-CDG.

UA did indeed operate LAX-CDG.

The flight switched back and forth from SFO during the mid/late 90s.
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goldorak
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:51 pm

yes both AA and UA operated (started and stopped at about the same date) LAX-CDG. It lasted about 1.5 years as far as I remember.
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:09 am

Quoting Airlittoralguy (Thread starter):
The second daily PHL-CDG run flown a few years ago with 767 200
The daily CLT-CDG run flown a few years ago too.
The daily PIT-CDG run flown a few years ago.

How far back do you want to go? I have skeds from 2000 and 2001. I can look them up for you.
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting Airlittoralguy (Thread starter):
The daily PIT-CDG run flown a few years ago.

Yeah the good old days! PIT-Europe is coming back though, so don't you worry!
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:09 am

Hi USPIT ! I am interested in the most recent schedule you have(2000 or 2001 it's perfect) for all the three US air flights. Thank you in advance for sharing your information and happy new year to all of you !
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 7):
Yeah the good old days!

Good ol' days indeed...

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 7):
PIT-Europe is coming back though, so don't you worry!

Oh I am sure of it. Local O&D will continue to grow, and businesses will also grow (hopefully no more companies will leave! May Mellon be the last one to be bought out and leave. The city needs to hold onto whatever it has left!) At least Westinghouse is staying put and even growing for that matter. By the time all of the growing is done, and especially with the ties between Pittsburgh and China, the total Westinghouse/Toshiba employees in the PIT area could surpass 10,000...

I wonder what airline would be the most likely to restart LGW or FRA service... US probably, although that looks rather slim? I don't care; I am still optimistic. Pittsburgh needs to participate in the global economy. At least it seems Onoroto cares more about the future of the city/Allegheny County than he does about his own financial wealth, unlike some of these other politicians who have otherwise corrupted the region and just about robbed it of a prosperous future...
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USPIT10L
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting Airlittoralguy (Reply 8):
Hi USPIT ! I am interested in the most recent schedule you have(2000 or 2001 it's perfect) for all the three US air flights.

Here you go. According to the system timetables I have, US never operated a second daily flight to CDG from PHL at either of those times. They did fly two daily LGW flights from PHL. US Airways system timetables do not list the specific aircraft flown, just the flight number and times. First listings are from June 11, 2000.

CLTCDG US188 1925 0930+1 Daily
CDGCLT US189 1110 1425 Daily

PHLCDG US26 1800 0720+1 Daily
CDGPHL US27 1200 1410 Daily

PITCDG US48 1755 0745+1 Daily
CDGPIT US49 1245 1535 Daily

Here are the skeds for July 8, 2001.

CLTCDG US188 1930 1000+1 Daily
CDGCLT US189 1110 1428 Daily

PHLCDG US26 1805 0740+1 Daily
CDGPHL US27 1140 1420 Daily

PITCDG US48 1700 0645+1 Daily
CDGPIT US49 1340 1630 Daily

You're welcome. Glad I could help.
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steeler83
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:38 pm

I am sure those aircraft were 762s and ultimately A330s... I am not sure when US got the A330, but they were definitely 767s at the very least...
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:58 pm

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 10):
According to the system timetables I have, US never operated a second daily flight to CDG from PHL at either of those times.

I thought that US did have a 2nd (maybe Seasonal) CDG flight, but ceased it's operation not too long before, or shortly after AF began it's service on March 26, 2000. I could however be incorrect on this. An early 2000 (if not seasonal) or 1999 Time Table would probably confirm/not confirm this.

[Edited 2007-01-02 07:01:25]
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:33 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 9):
May Mellon be the last one to be bought out and leave.

Mellon is moving their Headquarters. A large number of jobs will remain, in-fact I haven't heard of and Mellon-Pittsburgh jobs being cut. I did however hear that Mellon could eventually grow some of the Pittsburgh operations. While this doesn't make complete sense, I did hear it!
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:55 pm

Quoting Vega (Reply 12):
I thought that US did have a 2nd (maybe Seasonal) CDG flight, but ceased it's operation not too long before, or shortly after AF began it's service on March 26, 2000. I could however be incorrect on this. An early 2000 (if not seasonal) or 1999 Time Table would probably confirm/not confirm this.

I'm also sure that US operated 2 daily flights CDG-PHL for a short period sometime between 99 and 2001
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 14):
I'm also sure that US operated 2 daily flights CDG-PHL for a short period sometime between 99 and 2001

I have every US Airways timetable from 2000 and 2001, and I can honestly tell you they never operated that service in 2000 or 2001. An attempt at double-daily service to CDG was made in 1999, but the second flight ran Mondays through Thursdays. I guess when US got the rights to PIT-LGW, that aircraft was switched over.
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goldorak
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:33 am

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 15):
An attempt at double-daily service to CDG was made in 1999, but the second flight ran Mondays through Thursdays. I guess when US got the rights to PIT-LGW, that aircraft was switched over.

that's probably it !!  Smile
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:14 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 13):
Mellon is moving their Headquarters. A large number of jobs will remain, in-fact I haven't heard of and Mellon-Pittsburgh jobs being cut. I did however hear that Mellon could eventually grow some of the Pittsburgh operations. While this doesn't make complete sense, I did hear it!

While this may mean job growth for the Pittsburgh area, it is still one less F500 company headquartered there. Other companies looking to locate any kind of hq (corporate or regional) will only turn away from Western PA if companies keep moving their hqs out. I think there are only 5 F500 companies headquartered now in PIT, (Heinz, US Steel, PNC to name a few of those five...) I am keeping my faith though in Dick's Sporting Goods and in 84 Lumber, as those companies show very healthy growth and may make the list in the next year or two.

And, Mellon was bought out by Bank of New York; it was all over the postgazette website. The next time you feel the ground move, it's likely due to Andrew Mellon turning in his grave...
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:42 am

Back in 2003-4 there was a group of purchasing directors from several companies in Western PA who got together to pool their travel flow and spend information in order to entice Lufthansa to initiate a FRA-PIT service. These were companies that were either owned by German companies or did a lot of business over there. I remember the head committee guy saying that LH was interested, was impressed by the numbers of traveler demand they put together (nearly all J class, by the way) that was going between the two cities but was either using US through PHL, NW through DTW, etc., etc. LH came back with a reply that basically said, "Gee, guys, thanks very much, but we don't have the equipment at the current time."
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:51 am

Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 18):
These were companies that were either owned by German companies or did a lot of business over there. I remember the head committee guy saying that LH was interested, was impressed by the numbers of traveler demand they put together (nearly all J class, by the way) that was going between the two cities but was either using US through PHL, NW

Your correct. Bayer was one of those companies. Bayer is a German company, but the North American HQ is here in Pittsburgh!
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:27 pm

The second PHL-CDG flight operated for a summer or two, as flight US48/49. Not sure of the timing, though (generally, one was approximately 1800 departure from PHL, the other departed around 2000).
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:06 pm

Quoting USflt1778 (Reply 20):
The second PHL-CDG flight operated for a summer or two, as flight US48/49. Not sure of the timing, though (generally, one was approximately 1800 departure from PHL, the other departed around 2000).

Yes, that is correct. PIT-CDG operated for years as US 48/49. Upon dehubbing of PIT, those flights moved to PHL as a second daily flight to CDG, also operating as US 48/49 (summer 2003 or 2004?).

I am uncertain what the flight numbers for the second daily PHL-CDG were during the early 1999 stint however

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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:50 pm

Quoting Pgh234 (Reply 21):
I am uncertain what the flight numbers for the second daily PHL-CDG were during the early 1999 stint however

Here they are, effective June 12, 1999. It appears that PHLCDG was a double daily five days a week, as the flight did not operate on Thursdays and Fridays. I guess that was due to aircraft availability.

CDGPHL US27 1120 1350 X456
CDGPHL US23 1245 1515 Daily

PHLCDG US26 1745 0720+1 X45
PHLCDG US16 1955 0930+1 Daily
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:25 pm

You are wrong USPIT10L !
US Airways used to have 2 daily flights from PHL to CDG during summer 2004 !
 
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:00 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 19):
Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 18):
These were companies that were either owned by German companies or did a lot of business over there. I remember the head committee guy saying that LH was interested, was impressed by the numbers of traveler demand they put together (nearly all J class, by the way) that was going between the two cities but was either using US through PHL, NW

Your correct. Bayer was one of those companies. Bayer is a German company, but the North American HQ is here in Pittsburgh!

I wonder what equipment would've been needed to do FRA-PIT... I believe the smallest plane of their transatlantic fleet is the A330...
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USPIT10L
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RE: US Air Former CDG Flights Schedule

Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting FoxXray (Reply 23):
You are wrong USPIT10L !
US Airways used to have 2 daily flights from PHL to CDG during summer 2004 !

US Airways no longer publishes timetables. I haven't been able to see a US transatlantic schedule in five years. I was merely saying that from 2000 to 2001, it was not operated.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 24):
I wonder what equipment would've been needed to do FRA-PIT... I believe the smallest plane of their transatlantic fleet is the A330...

Probably an A319 from PrivatAir, all biz class, similar to what LH uses to EWR.
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