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UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:07 am

I got a kick out of this article, particularly the quote from the controller that I included below. It's a good New Year's read, so enjoy.  Smile

Quote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classi...872=1&coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

In the sky! A bird? A plane? A ... UFO?
January 1, 2007
Jon Hilkevitch, Chicago Tribune

It sounds like a tired joke--but a group of airline employees insist they are in earnest, and they are upset that neither their bosses nor the government will take them seriously.

A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.

...

Officials at United professed no knowledge of the Nov. 7 event--which was reported to the airline by as many as a dozen of its own workers--when the Tribune started asking questions recently.

...

"To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.

Note that there was a thread on this here shortly after the "occurrence."
Strange Sphere Over Gate 17 At O'Hare? (by Okelleynyc Nov 18 2006 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:36 am

Quoting Longhaulheavy (Thread starter):
To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.

LMAO!!!!  Smile
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:50 am

Pretty hysterical - don't know what to think about the sighting, tho.


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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:55 am

Anyone take a photo , or video, or something. You'd think if this was real they would have recorded something....
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:17 am

Yeah I was just about to start a thread on this until I saw this one. There's gotta be someone on this site that has some inside info on this one? Anybody? I'm just a little suprised that nobody could snap a picture.
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:12 pm

The thing that amazes me.............is the cover-up has already started. If this had been "allowed" to be reported by the main stream press.......can you imagine the questions that would have been asked? The Congressional hearings? I'm sure they(media) knew about it, but nobody in the main stream media mgmt will let a report like this be broadcast- especially after 9/11.....Currently, any back-pack, idiot getting past security, or anything related, will shut down an airport or terminal wing.....FAST! Why didn't this...? This was reported to the FAA, by many different people that probably didn't know each other-....but it was kept under wraps. Read the report at www.NUFORC.org and also read that websites front page story.......there are 2, then find the submitted report by the taxi Pilot........and do the math.

Either a bunch no-minds working with airport security badges on the ramp, risked their jobs reporting this, for what...laughs?......or this event was covered-up. Who knows what it really was................but no security alert issued, makes me very suspicious.

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:37 pm

Well beyond what the employees saw, didn't ATC in the tower see it? Multiple pilot reports? Just UAL rampers only?
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:11 pm

"Anyone take a photo , or video, or something."




Looks similar to an earlier sighting two years ago towing a banner.  Wink
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:34 pm

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7):

LMAO...literal LOL. Good work.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:30 pm

This always makes me laugh so much. You can be sure that from now on, a lot of people in Chicage will also say that they have seen it.....
Do you know that extraterrestrians only like "developped" countries ? They never appear in third world countries ! Only Europe, US and Australia (and few others). But when you are starving, you don't have the energy to make your show and only think about beeing seen on TV !!!!!! Think about it.....
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:58 pm

Quoting HBJZA (Reply 9):
They never appear in third world countries !

Hey, they showed up in Brazil in 1986! F-5Es and Mirage IIIEs were scrambled from SBSC and SBAN, respectively. But those damn aliens proved more difficult to intercept than the RAF's Vulcan during the Falklands War in 1982. Big grin
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Longhaulheavy (Thread starter):
To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.

Thanks for the laugh. The human mind can make up do many things. Have you ever tried standings outside and looked up at the sky and suddenly from nowhere everyone starts doing the same thing. Mind over matter
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:22 pm

I believe that I was a witness to the UFO sighting as well: She was about 65 years old, 5'5", 200 lbs, wearing a blue polyester tent dress with gray piping (her dress, not her hair), a pewter wing pin, and boarding a 747 that was bound for Beijing...

[Edited 2007-01-02 13:26:51]
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:29 pm

When I was a young boy I was outside at night with some friends. We were astonished to see a bright, flat disk-shaped object moving slowly in an erratic, zig-zag path to the northwest of our position. I went in and got my Dad and he came out and we all watched this thing for several minutes. It sort of stood still at one point off in the distance north of where we were, then, all of a sudden, it just zipped out of sight off to the west.

None of us knew what it was, and my Dad, ever the wise one, simply said to me "Never tell anyone about this."

Years later, when I was more informed on what was going on "north and west" of where we lived, I found that this was exactly where research had been going on concerning nuclear energy applications, including nuclear electrical power generation as well as nuclear bomb making.

Having seen several other "phenomenon" in the heavens, both in daylight and at night, I am no longer a dis-believer.

As for why no "security alert" was issued on the one in Chicago (or anywhere else, for all that matters), just ask yourself this question:

"Would you want to be tell the public there is 'something out there' that we have no defense for?"

Can you imagine the panic this would cause?
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:03 pm

"Whatever the object was, it could have interfered with O'Hare's radar and other equipment, and even created a collision risk, they said."

I thought the alien technology was way ahead of ours. You'd say that even the cheapest UFO is fitted with some kind of TECAS.
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:04 pm

The reason "No Security" Alert was ever issued is a major case in point. Just like the additional report by those linked in the story....is also a major case in point. Why would they come back to bring the point up again...?

This morning on ABC news, 1-2-2007, Harry Sreenivasan used up a whole 10 seconds reporting on this incident - albiet with the slight smirk in the tone of the of his newscast, and at the end of the newscast at 4:55am PST,,,,which MOST people in the USA will never see. The mere fact we had a multiple witness UFO event over a major airport in the USA, by what seems to be very qualified observers, and nary a word of it from the main stream media on the day it happened- is a cover-up to me. Sure, all of the Lil funny photos attached and LOL's only leads me to believe that most people won't seriously investigate the subject, OR don't want too, for whatever reason. There have been many many reports by highly skilled airline pilots of UFO type incidents, maybe some of those who you all read here in the forums on other subjects.

My point being, if you look at the subject matter and ask yourself this question.......what risk do these people put themselves in by reporting such an incident, vs what they get out of it. Perfectly sane people who can Taxi a 777 to the MOC bay..or..marshall aircraft-load and push back airliners, but then be discounted when they look up and report a strange sighting over a major airport,,,only to be discounted or ignored,,,then they come back with a follow-up article,,,because NOBODY is listening. In this day and age of Security issues, most of us can't go to an airport and film Jets without being harassed or questioned.......yet several people can report a strange event at O'Hare,,,and it's virtually ignored. Go ahead an smirk.....but if you ever see one up close.....( as I have in 1962 at Pocatello, Idaho...with 10+ people older than me) then you may start asking questions..............

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:26 pm

I don't think it was reported in November because the main-stream press didn't know about it (or didn't realize that it was "serious").

I, for one, heard it reported on NPR yesterday at ~5pm ET. That, my friends, is main stream media. (that's National Public Radio, for those who don't know. I heard it on "All Things Considered", a nationally broadcasted news radio show that can be heard basically everywhere in the United States).
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:36 pm

I can't believe the aliens are still flying those old contraptions. Any chance they'll order the 787?

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:43 pm

I don't believe in life beyond the Earth, but I do believe in secret military technology as I have seen it in action, in broad daylight in Austin Texas.
IMO you can bet that every controller within 300nm witnessed this object on their screens, as they probably regularly do. Any of them that wish to keep their "government" job know full well what to say when civilians observe something they shouldn't have. Ahhh, it was a wierd weather phenomena, a balloon, swamp gas....etc.

If this craft had been "alien" in origin, and it's intentions unknown to all, it's appearance over ORD would be a major danger to ALL aircraft operating in the area and certainly would have rang alarm bells at every radar station in the Northeast. Had this occurred, it would be impossible to hide the event like they have done.

On a final note, if any of you think that the A380 and the 787 partly represent the pinnicle of aviation technology, well you certainly have another thing coming.....
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:04 am

Quoting SJC-Alien (Reply 5):
Currently, any back-pack, idiot getting past security, or anything related, will shut down an airport or terminal wing.....FAST! Why didn't this...?

Well, it was a report from a few eye witnesses, nothing more.
Reading the report on the NUFORC website, it's little more than one person's account of seeing something strange - this justifies national press coverage???

Cover up??

Oh, please??

You think this wouldn't be on CNN if they thought it was a reliable and newsworthy (and entertaining!) story ???


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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:24 am

Can´t understand why so much increaduablity over this possiblity.

UFO sightings are world wide especially during the new year.

I have seen one myself when I was a kid and am certain of what I saw.

Just my opinion.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:26 am

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 3):
Anyone take a photo , or video, or something. You'd think if this was real they would have recorded something....

Well, I never had the opportunity to carry a camera while working on the ramp. At least a camera within quick grabbing range. I would bring a camera for breaks, but it was just too darned iffy to carry in the old pocket.

I would imagine that they did see something, especially with so many reporting it.
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:29 am

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 20):
UFO sightings are world wide especially during the new year.

What, you mean it relates to the time of the year when most alcohol is consumed??

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 20):
I have seen one myself when I was a kid and am certain of what I saw.

Yes, you were certain you saw a UFO. It's an "Unidentified Flying Object". Something in the sky that you cannot identify - has nothing to do with alien beings, unless you choose to believe it is.

I'm certain I've seen many things that I cannot identify - but I don't immediately assume they must be alien sightings.


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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:37 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 19):
You think this wouldn't be on CNN if they thought it was a reliable and newsworthy (and entertaining!) story ???

It is on the CNN website now.....
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting Md80fanatic (Reply 18):
I don't believe in life beyond the Earth

Really???!!! Not even millions of light-years away, other galaxies...? Why on earth (!)would you think we are the only ones?? Millions and millions of stars, planets, galaxies...it is NOT possible that there is no life outside of our planet. Are we visited by anyone, that's another story.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting Coal (Reply 17):
I can't believe the aliens are still flying those old contraptions. Any chance they'll order the 787?

Cheers,
Coal

Oh no not another when will the aliens replace the saucers thread  Wink
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting SJC-Alien (Reply 5):
Currently, any back-pack, idiot getting past security, or anything related, will shut down an airport or terminal wing.....FAST! Why didn't this...?

Because then the alien terrorists win.

I'm not taking any chances. I'm duct taping my windows, getting a year-supply of water and MREs, and reading up on this important guide: http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:37 am

It could be a UAV. They can pull some amazing maneuvers.

However, I remember a case where an A-12 was caught refuelling too close to an airliner... FBI agents met them on the ground, they took everybody off and told them to never talk about what they did or didn't or may have seen...

As for aliens, I have no idea, I wouldn't be suprized if there were some star systems that had life on them.

Although I'm actually not sure what happened at ORD, could have been a UAV, might have been something else.

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:43 am

Isn't there a landing fee at O'Hare? They may have balked at the expense or their passports weren't in order. Or maybe they felt some sort of camaraderie now that TSA is probing passengers.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:47 am

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 20):
Can´t understand why so much increaduablity over this possiblity.

People around the world believe in seances, too.

The only problem is the first ever reported seances (about 120 years ago) were shown to be complete hoaxes, admitted to by the hoaxers, as a way to get money out of the easily duped.

Yet, from those first hoaxes, the mythology of "real" seances has spread throughout the world like a virus.

UFOs started showing up during the flying age, not before. Why? Maybe because nobody before then really believed anyone could fly, thus neither could aliens fly. But as soon as flying became real, UFOs did too.

Why it took the actions of Orville and Wilbur to allow the aliens access to our planet, only those who swear they've seen alien UFOs can answer...
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:00 am

UFO's, alien spaceships or whatever you want to call them are rarely sighted near civilian airports, mainly around military installations. So it is a bit of a suprise one turned up at ORD. None of us know or ever will know what the object was. Whatever these flying objects are, governments and not least the US gov't are in a state of denial. Successive US governments denied the existence of Area 51 even though Soviet spy satellites proved it's existence.
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:13 am

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 30):
Successive US governments denied the existence of Area 51 even though Soviet spy satellites proved it's existence

...and coincidentally, we know for fact that this is where new secret military aircraft were designed and/or built and/or tested ...and probably continue to do so today. I'm not surprized it was kept secret....and to a lesser extent it still is today.

I wonder what we would we would have thought if we'd seen the F117 flying 5 years before it was officially announced ... aliens of course. What else could it have been??

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:40 am

Quoting Airforum (Reply 14):
I thought the alien technology was way ahead of ours. You'd say that even the cheapest UFO is fitted with some kind of TECAS.



Quoting Coal (Reply 17):
I can't believe the aliens are still flying those old contraptions. Any chance they'll order the 787?

I'm actually onboard that very same UFO right now (no pre-arranged pickup, instead got suddenly sucked up into the bright noon Guanacaste sky while spotting at the pasture land adjacent to LIR's rwy 07/25), and I gotta tell you, these green guys really got a kick out of both your posts!
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:26 am

May be they were coming down to get a 60M light year tuneup and someone told them that Boeing moved their HQ to Chicago. I'm sure they changed their flight plan from SEA to ORD just before entering the solar system.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 24):
Quoting Md80fanatic (Reply 18):
I don't believe in life beyond the Earth

Really???!!!

That's correct.

The concept of aliens, and their associated technology, is >THE< perfect plausible deniability cover for advanced military flying hardware. If someone sees one of these exotic government birds....all they need do is say it was a weather balloon and immediately focus shifts from possible military hardware to visiting creatures from other worlds. It's brilliant.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:15 am

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7):

Looks like an A35550 -- crappy lines -- the B78887 is much sleeker.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:37 am

To belabor the point, before flying machines, the "UFO" of choice was the spectral locomotive, the phantom stage coast, the ghost pirate ship, etc.

It's a natural human desire to want to believe in something beyond our understanding and then swear they saw it. But those who want to believe are quite unoriginal, as they can only really believe in what someone else has already proven to be possible or postulated.

At the turn of the century, writers began postulating about space travel, and scientists were focusing on studying the stars and planets more and more. Then you had WW1 and the barnstormers and War of the Worlds, and people became familiar with airplanes and enamored with the idea that aliens could be visiting. WW2 put that talk on hold for a while, though that war showed even greater examples of flying machines including rockets, and then the 50s saw a surge in UFO hysteria.

It's no coincidence that at that time the USA government was testing all sorts of experimental aircraft, and as others pointed out, denying "aliens" is a great cover for the activities, and much more entertaining than denying "research."

All you have to do to confuse someone is to put really bright lights on a fighter jet, more than normal, and then fly it directly towards a town from a very long way away, and then make a very sharp turn and climb into the clouds. Voila: hovering UFO with flashing lights that all of a sudden rockets away. You don't even need any hovering technology to make people believe they saw a hovering UFO...
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:47 am

Since this could be plane from the future, I'm surprised this has not turned into an A vs B war.

First, statistically speaking, it appears that we can't be alone in the universe.

Second, so far at least, physics shows that it takes enormous amounts of energy to travel great distances in a timely manner. Personally, I don't believe any aliens have visited.

I have 3 instances where I saw a UFO and later was able to identify it. But in each case, there were reports of people claiming it was alien craft since it could be nothing else.

One was a crop dusting helicopter flying at night - if you've ever seen one at night, you'll swear it is an alien. Another was simply a weather balloon, but the sun hit it just right, and it was going through different air currents and changing directions. My best experience was watching two very bright points of light off the east coast of Florida hover in the sky at dusk. Over a 30 minute period they rose and then lowered while staying in formation, with one slightly to the right and higher than the other. Finally, the lights disappeared. There were no launches from the cape. I knew immediately what it was because of my job, but lots of people saw it and concluded alien craft. It was submarine launched trident missiles heading southeastward.

There are so many other possibilities. With all the cameras and cell phone cameras around, you'd think we would have good evidence of an alien craft by now, if they were really here.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:06 am

Even if other life forms existed in the universe, what would make them want to come to EARTH. And if they have ever come they usually end up meeting a farmer with bloodshot eyes at 3 am in the morning driving a beatup pickup. Who would want to come back after that.  Wink
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:23 am

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 32):

I'm actually onboard that very same UFO right now (no pre-arranged pickup, instead got suddenly sucked up into the bright noon Guanacaste sky while spotting at the pasture land adjacent to LIR's rwy 07/25), and I gotta tell you, these green guys really got a kick out of both your posts!

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 29):
UFOs started showing up during the flying age, not before. Why?

Maybe because the aliens made their first flight in 1903 as well. But unlike Orville Wright, who stayed in the air for 12 seconds, they were able to fly for half a minute. Their succes in aviation technology never ended, so they flew the 787 at the time 'earth' people were stunned by the sight of a DC-1.

And when 'we' thought that nothing could ever beat the Concorde, 'they' launched their UFO3NG, the first UFO without winglets.
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:54 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 34):
Quoting FFlyer (Reply 24):
Quoting Md80fanatic (Reply 18):
I don't believe in life beyond the Earth

Really???!!!

That's correct.

The concept of aliens, and their associated technology, is >THE< perfect plausible deniability cover for advanced military flying hardware. If someone sees one of these exotic government birds....all they need do is say it was a weather balloon and immediately focus shifts from possible military hardware to visiting creatures from other worlds. It's brilliant.

There's a big difference between believing in life elswehere in the universe and believing aliens have visited us. To say that aliens have never visited us seems plausible because of the incredibly small odds that our tiny speck of a planet would be singled out for a visit from some far off star or galaxy. But to say that life doesn't exist elsewhere is to fly in the face of overwhelming odds that it probably does. Of course, until it is actually proven, you are certainly entitled to your view.
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:01 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 36):
To belabor the point, before flying machines, the "UFO" of choice was the spectral locomotive, the phantom stage coast, the ghost pirate ship, etc

I've never seen a UFO (or anything paranormal, for that matter) that I am aware of, therefore I don't believe in this stuff either. But I will say that I am "tolerant" to the idea that there might just be something else out there...

There is a lot about this world that we don't know and don't understand. And I'm sure that for every 100 ghost stories, UFO sightings/abductions, Bermuda Triangle mysteries and Loch Ness monsters, there are logical human and earthbound explanations for 99 of them. But I'll leave the door open for that 1/100 chance that there is something more to this universe than we are aware of. Not saying I believe in UFOs, just saying that I haven't seen anything in my life that convinces me.

I'd like to think that all those people at ORD saw something other than a UFO, even though some of the sightings were by somewhat credible sources. But are there any pictures? Any other 'proof'? Is the meterological answer a realistic one? Based on this story, there is nothing that makes me say I can believe it.
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:17 am

Quoting Laddb (Reply 37):
With all the cameras and cell phone cameras around, you'd think we would have good evidence of an alien craft by now, if they were really here.

Absolutely correct!

We seem to have everything that ever happened captured on tape, but NEVER any credible evidence of alien UFOs .... simply never.

There may well be pictures that 'cannot be explained', but that's a long way off from any kind of proof.


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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:22 am

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 24):
it is NOT possible that there is no life outside of our planet.



Quoting ER757 (Reply 41):
to say that life doesn't exist elsewhere is to fly in the face of overwhelming odds that it probably does.



Quoting Laddb (Reply 37):
First, statistically speaking, it appears that we can't be alone in the universe.

First, statistically speaking, we can't exist in the first place. Given the typical astronomical lifespan of a solar system, and especially given the estimated geologic age of Earth, the possibility that random proteins aligned themselves and were energized in such a fashion as to form genetically based life is statistically impossible. Still more impossible is the progression from the single-celled organism to the complex lifeforms of modern times, still within the same geologic time frame. Statistics have failed to prove our existence, how can they prove the existence of others?

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 25):
Oh no not another when will the aliens replace the saucers thread

 Big grin  rotfl  rotfl  Big grin

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 29):
The only problem is the first ever reported seances (about 120 years ago) were shown to be complete hoaxes, admitted to by the hoaxers, as a way to get money out of the easily duped.

Hmmm, I can think of three reported seances long before that...in "biblical" times  Wink Now the modern ones, that's a different story...

Quoting Manny (Reply 38):
Even if other life forms existed in the universe, what would make them want to come to EARTH.

Yes, the quintessential comedy line: the most convincing argument for the existence of intelligent life in the universe is the fact that it has not tried to contact us!

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 43):
Quoting Laddb (Reply 37):
With all the cameras and cell phone cameras around, you'd think we would have good evidence of an alien craft by now, if they were really here.

Absolutely correct!

We seem to have everything that ever happened captured on tape, but NEVER any credible evidence of alien UFOs .... simply never.

Yep.... checkmark 

Quoting SJC-Alien (Reply 5):
Currently, any back-pack, idiot getting past security, or anything related, will shut down an airport or terminal wing.....FAST! Why didn't this...?

Even by the eyewitness reports, no aliens violated the sterile area of the airport  Wink Ya know, I think if these people reported the security threat and it was able to be credibly verified, they just might have evacuated the terminal. So, did these UA employees go to the TSA and/or airport operations and demand an investigation? Or were they afraid of the ensuing interrogation and drug tests? Or did they know that it was hopeless, since whatever they saw was no longer there. How can an investigation be performed on the uncorroborated, unverified testimony of "eyewitnesses"? What security measures should be put in place? Maybe cameras to watch the airspace? Satellites that might detect such an anomaly (under civilian control, no less)? Ground-based and aerial radar of the airspace in question (also operated by civilians)? Guess what? All that's already there, and I haven't found the parallel "unexplained radar anomaly" thread yet. So the appropriate response is not congressional hearings, it's go take depositions of these folks and file it away, in case it ever happens again. (That file's pretty big already, but it never seems to pan out.)

The first thing that tips an investigator to the credulity of a witness is how sure they are that they saw something. I watched myself pour my breakfast cereal this morning, but under serious and determined interrogation I could probably admit I don't remember exactly whether it was Wheaties or Total. These "witnesses" and many others are more "certain" of their sightings than they are of their own names. That's a big red flag. It suggests that perhaps their names (or identity, if you wish) hinge on the belief in their phantasm.

Finally, the press doesn't have an angle on this. Now if the CBS chopper got footage, you can bet it's on the news- but public reports are much less valuable. If you want media attention, promise them an exclusive.  dollarsign 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:30 pm

The reason I am skeptical is in an age of YouTube, where someone risks their life by sneaking a cell phone cam into the hanging of a Middle Eastern leader, and then gets it up on the net within hours, why is there no cell pic or cell vid of the UFO?
 
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:37 pm

Quoting Richierich (Reply 42):
But I will say that I am "tolerant" to the idea that there might just be something else out there...

Oh, me too. I just don't think anyone on earth has seen a UFO.

I have a probability theory that goes like this:

The odds of life on any planet are beyond small. The odds that life could have formed on earth are astronomically small, no pun intended.

Yet life is on earth. Thus, it proves that it is possible.

So, the odds that life on earth exists now are actually 100%, right? And if the universe is near infinite and time is near infinite, then the odds that life DOESN'T exist somewhere else are near zero.

It's the lottery paradox. The odds of winning the lottery are so small, you shouldn't enter. Yet someone wins the lottery in about 50% of the draws (averaged out). Sometimes you go 10 draws without a winner, other times you get 5 winners in one draw. The odds of SOMEONE winning the lottery at any time is 50%. The odds of someone winning the lottery eventually is 100%. And that would be true no matter how many numbers you had to draw.

The odds of life existing on other planets is pretty much 100%. The odds we will find them or they will find us? Close to 0.

The odds this was an alien UFO over ORD? Zero.

The odds some rampers are having fun at their company's expense? Much higher...
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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:14 pm

Quoting Agill (Reply 39):
Watch out for anal-probes.

Hehe. Yep, I too had read abductees always get a probe or two. But no, these outer space dudes are so cute and friendly. Calmed my anxiety right away by explaining -in my native Spanish- how global warming these days has forced them to restrict this otherwise ubiquitous procedure to earthlings kidnapped within 10° South of Earth's Arctic Circle.

As for why the flying saucer didn't land at ORD, the crew seems to have decided it wasn't worth sitting on the tarmac for an hour trying to get to a gate to visit Chicago.

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:39 pm

Very eerie. This was the first I've heard of this event..pretty creepy. I think I believe in UFO's, but I never thought there would be an eye-witness account here in the midwest (usually in the southwest, like New Mexico/ Area 51). I wish a picture was published..

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RE: UFO Sighting Over O'Hare

Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:05 pm

The fact that there is life on earth could be nothing more than the manifestation of a higher power, not the manifestation of statistical probability fulfilling itself, so we can not take life on earth as de facto proof that it must exist elsewhere, as well. The size of the universe is not an argument for life in outer space. Case in point, on my desk is a bag of tostitos corn chips. According to that logic, there must be a similiar desk somewhere in outerspace, with a similiar bag of tostitos corn chips. Surely with all the galaxies out there, there must be at least one other bag of tostitos corn chips in outer space? Yet somehow, I doubt it. Just because you start with a big number, that doesn't mean that number produces anything. If you have a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters for a million years, I doubt they will produce any literary classics.

[Edited 2007-01-03 07:07:38]
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