gh123
Posts: 645
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:09 pm

When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:25 am

I flew back in October from ORD - LHR and I'm pretty sure that the cutlery (silverwear if you are a yank) was then plastic.

I flew just before Christmas again (AA - Bus-Class) and the cutlery was back to metal.

When was the re-introduction and why now?!

By the way - the stewardesses were complaining that the trays were now too heavy! I thought that was amusing.

Sorry if this has been previously discussed.
 
ikramerica
Posts: 13762
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 9:33 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:30 am

If AA has metal knives, that is new.

QF is still using plastic knives.

CO switched back to metal knives LONG ago.

Haven't been on other F or J for a while, so I can't comment on that.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
 
LAXintl
Posts: 20183
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:35 am

Actually their return of was approved well over a year ago, however in general most US airlines chose to continue using plastic ware.
However many international carriers have since returned to using their regular silverware on US services.

I always found the ban somewhat ridiculous anyhow as there are plenty of other items that could be used as weapons and the only thing the ban did was make it harder to eat my meal!
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
gh123
Posts: 645
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:09 pm

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:41 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
the only thing the ban did was make it harder to eat my meal!

Couldn't agree more!
 
ikramerica
Posts: 13762
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 9:33 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:46 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
I always found the ban somewhat ridiculous anyhow as there are plenty of other items that could be used as weapons and the only thing the ban did was make it harder to eat my meal!

Not to mention that when eating a fine F meal, it's really silly to open your nice linen napkin and find quality stainless forks and spoons, and dinky white (or on AA, clear) plastic knives...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
 
aacun
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:47 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:18 am

Silverware has been back for at least 3 months now.... It was first introduced in Asia and Europe then the premium Latin American markets..... and as far as I know, it's back wherever meals are served on int'l flights..... Of course only in the premium cabins, F/C and B/C only. Coach still gets plastic utensils when we do serve a meal !!!!! Cannot tell you about domestic.... That's a whole different ball game. I'll try to find out, or if anyone has flown domestic lately in F/C with a meal service then please let us know. And yes, we did get used to serving the plastic stuff, and it weights nothing, so it was odd lifting the trays again with the real stuff, but its all a matter of getting used to it. And I even like it better than what we used to have before. Pax also appreciate having it back.
 
Evan767
Posts: 2198
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:52 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:21 am

Yes, DL had it in J when I flew ATL-JNB. The knife seemed no sharper than a plastic one though. Really made no difference.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
EWRCabincrew
Posts: 4306
Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 2:37 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:30 am

CO now has metal cutlery on all it's international destinations. The hold outs were all UK and Italy destinations. The governments were imposing their rules on what to board.

Now that they have implemented new rules, we have new cutlery, albeit, a different design from the normal ones (you will see a difference in the B/F cutlery). You will seee the new silverware on UK and Italy flights. And the occasional swap when catering mixes it up.

Should prove to be very interesting when catering receives non-approved cutlery in a UK or Italy station. Time will tell. I foresee a change to the new cutlery for all cities to alleviate any potential problem (this is my own humble opinion, mind you).
You can't cure stupid
 
ckfred
Posts: 4716
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2001 12:50 pm

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:54 am

I read in the Wall Street Journal that AA was going back to metal utensils in premium cabins, as well as coach on international flights with meal service, Europe, Asia, and South America.

Frankly, this is long overdue. I was on a breakfast snack flight from LAS to ORD. Cutting an omelet and under-ripe fruit with plastic utensils was a pain in the neck.
 
cusaeng
Posts: 90
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:27 pm

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:07 am

i flew ba club world lhr nas gcm return in september 05 and it was all metal cutlery. Cant remember about my lhr sfo trip in november tho.
I wanna fly but they wont let me :( grr
 
ABQopsHP
Posts: 461
Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 10:47 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:33 am

I also found the ban hypocritical. The TSA allows some of the most amazing things through security, and yet there were no butter knifes in the galley. However! I recall a pax being alowed to take a 5 iron on board. Gee I wonder what would do more harm?
ABQ ops, Cactus 202 requesting you order 5 Green Chile Chicken stew for us to p/u on arrival. ;)
 
ikramerica
Posts: 13762
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 9:33 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:37 am

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 10):
I recall a pax being alowed to take a 5 iron on board. Gee I wonder what would do more harm?

A knife. Unless it was a trick five iron with a point under a removable head?

Swinging a five iron on board isn't that easy. You need a nice open field or a parking lot to do any real damage to someone with a golf club. Or at least that's what TV has taught me...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
 
ABQopsHP
Posts: 461
Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 10:47 am

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:41 am

HAHA yep Ikramerica....make a little room in the den for that swing I guess. OR did you want a new TV anyway?
ABQ ops, Cactus 202 requesting you order 5 Green Chile Chicken stew for us to p/u on arrival. ;)
 
ScandinA340
Posts: 74
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:01 pm

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:58 am

It's not a QF thing... the Australian government requires all flights ex/to Australia to not use metal knives (forks and spoons okay). SQ actually puts a note on their menus ex Australia apologising to pax for the requirement, but will gladly use metal knives on EU-SIN flights (for instance).

Silly rule.
 
VHXLR8
Posts: 487
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:58 pm

RE: When Was Metal Cutlery/Silverwear Re-Introduced?

Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:56 pm

Quoting ScandinA340 (Reply 13):
SQ actually puts a note on their menus ex Australia apologising to pax for the requirement, but will gladly use metal knives on EU-SIN flights (for instance).

SQ seems to relish any opportunity to badmouth the Australian government; I wonder why!?!?  Wink