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Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:32 pm

A US 734, operating a flight from MSY to PHL, was involved in a pretty bad birdstrike on its takeoff roll. I witnessed the attempted takeoff...it was probably doing a good 80 knots at least when it suddenly stopped and turned off the runway. Only after it got back to the gate could I see the cause.

The birds left a huge dent in the nose cone....maybe two feet wide and a foot deep...also there was some engine damage, along with tons of feathers and blood. It was one of the worst bird strikes that I've seen.

Kudos to the flight crew for getting that airplane stopped safely. That airplane will be out of service until they can replace the cone.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:41 pm

Ouch. That's bad. I'm glad the engine damage didn't result in further trouble -- there can be no end of problems when an engine is busted. And bravo to a typically excellent flight crew for safely handling the problem.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:47 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):

Dang... What flight was that? I was on 1824 yesterday...
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:54 pm

She was operating the 2:45pm flight....so that'd be US1676 I believe.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:54 pm

Dont have the chicken nuggets at the airport later this week.
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:36 pm

Quoting Avsfan (Reply 4):
Dont have the chicken nuggets at the airport later this week.

Why? At least we know it will be fresh.  Smile

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:44 pm

once we had a bird strike we had toreplace the entire Horizontal stab and elevators on a Dash-8 (T-Tail)......17hrs of work with evaluation flight included.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:18 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 3):
She was operating the 2:45pm flight....so that'd be US1676 I believe

Was this Sunday?

US Airways website shows Sundays flight 1676 arrived in PHL 15 minutes early.... Flghtaware also lists it as an A319..
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:30 pm

Bird strikes happen ALL the time at MSY, I was on an inbound UA flight a few months ago from DEN and we had a pretty bad one. Anywhere to get statistics on this sort of thing?
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:05 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
Kudos to the flight crew for getting that airplane stopped safely. That airplane will be out of service until they can replace the cone.

Wonder if they will, considering the 734s are going to be phased out before too long...
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:32 pm

Cactus739, perhaps it was the CLT departure with an a/c swap then....yes it was Sunday...perhaps I lost track of time, which tends to happen when you work at an airport.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:11 pm

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 5):
Quoting Avsfan (Reply 4):
Dont have the chicken nuggets at the airport later this week.

Why? At least we know it will be fresh.

DO Wendy's chicken nuggets with a hint of Boeing 737, and DO what tastes right  Smile

Nah, but seriously, what kinds of birds did they strike? They had to have been huge to cause that kind of damage...

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
The birds left a huge dent in the nose cone....maybe two feet wide and a foot deep...

That is a huge dent in the nose cone. What were they, flying cows???
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:30 pm

Anyone happen to catch any photos?
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:49 pm

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 9):
considering the 734s are going to be phased out before too long...

Which is why they are getting repainted, right?
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:37 am

We had a goose strike in PHL last week on one of our aircraft. It took out the radome, WX radar antenna, and did some structural damage to the bulkhead behind the radar antenna. It was a messy sight to say the least.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 12):
Anyone happen to catch any photos?

I would assume it's still here this morning.....I'll go shoot a couple pics with the digital in a few minutes.

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 8):
Bird strikes happen ALL the time at MSY, I was on an inbound UA flight a few months ago from DEN and we had a pretty bad one. Anywhere to get statistics on this sort of thing?

We get them quite a bit.....we're located under a bird flyway area, and there's also a landfill a ways dwon the road. Plus we've got the Mississippi River 1/2 mile south, and Lake Pontchartrain to the north.

Our airport operations department has an employee whose full-time duty is wildlife control.

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:15 am

You would be surprized at the number of bird strikes, just in the US alone. The big problem in the US is, not all strikes actually get reported, even if the strike causes aircraft damage.

Here at DFW, we average about 25 bird strikes per month in the winter, and 50 in the summer. We report every wildlife strike (birds are not the only problem, we also average 4 coyote strikes per year). The FAA has an on line reporting form at:
http://wildlife.pr.erau.edu/strikeform/birdstrikeform.html

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
The birds left a huge dent in the nose cone....maybe two feet wide and a foot deep...also there was some engine damage, along with tons of feathers and blood. It was one of the worst bird strikes that I've seen.

Kudos to the flight crew for getting that airplane stopped safely. That airplane will be out of service until they can replace the cone.

Replacing the radome doesn't take very long, but the engines will have to be bore-scoped, at a minimum. Any strikes along the wing, will need to be inspected, too. Leading edge flaps/slats may have to be replaced.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:13 am

A friend of mine was Flight Engineer in the late 80's early 90's on Air Force One. He said they were climbing out of ADW without the the President on board when they hit a flock of small birds. He said that you know you've had a strike(s) - besides indications on the engines' vibration monitors - because the smell in the cabin is horrific. I think it comes through the bleed air ducts? He said it took them several days to get the stink out of the plane and the fuselage cleaned up.

Can any of you relate with personal experiences?
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:19 am

Our only E-3 loss was Yukla 27 September 22, 1995 at Elmendorf. Canadian geese took at #1 and 2 engines. Plane crashed and was fatal to all 24 US and Canadian AF members on board. We have several memorials to it.

One of the worst bird strikes every in USAF history. The new BASH program was implemented afterword.

I've been on several E-3s and C-130s that have hit little birds but never the big geese thankfully.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19950922-0&lang=en
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:34 am

Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 17):
Can any of you relate with personal experiences?

I can, was out spotting near DCA a few years back when a 733 sucked a bird into the engine. It shot out shredded bird probably 100 yards into/over the Potomac and then landed safely. It was a few years post-9/11, and a few tourists near us were visibally worried that the aircraft just had a bomb go off inside it.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:43 am

We were in TPA several years back... we had a bird strike on takeoff. No damage to the aircraft tho. We kept on to our destination. The capt called the tower to ask what kind of bird it was... some kind of rare and endangered hawk. LOL I told him I was gonna call the Tree Huggers! Seriously, it was unfortunate for the bird, but funny to see the capt's look on his face as they told him he'd killed a rare bird. Priceless. We joked about that for years after when we'd see each other.

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:56 am

Nose cone's been replaced as of this morning.....sorry, no pics.

I worked a DL 757 bird strike here one foggy morning about 15 years ago. He was departing runway 01, rotated, and ran through a flock of 100-odd seagulls that was passing through. The #1 engine flamed out, the #2 was hiccupping as he took off. Pilot later said he almost ditched into Lake Pontchartrain.

I saw the 757 after he landed back here and taxiied in: 3 foot dent in the nose cone, numerous carcasses in the leading edge flaps and landing gear.

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:09 am

First the mechanics, then the flight attendants, now the birds are on strike! Something needs to be done about this outrage! The birds need to get a better union seeing as how they made out in past bird strikes


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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:38 am

Perhaps they should equip the planes with lazers or mounted machine guns... Then again, that could be hazardous to other aircraft...  banghead 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 16):
4 coyote strikes per year

Any Moose strikes??  rotfl 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:37 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 23):
Perhaps they should equip the planes with lazers or mounted machine guns

Its a joke  Yeah sure
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:04 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 24):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 16):
4 coyote strikes per year

Any Moose strikes??

Not yet. We don't have many Moose in the DFW area, perhaps ANC?
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:12 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 24):
Any Moose strikes?

A moose bit my sister once....
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:15 am

Quoting Bwohlgemuth (Reply 27):
A moose bit my sister once....

My bird bit me the other day. He wasn't on strike though

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:26 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 26):
Not yet. We don't have many Moose in the DFW area, perhaps ANC?

Never heard of a moose strike...but there's always the salmon strike!
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:27 am

Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 17):
because the smell in the cabin is horrific. I think it comes through the bleed air ducts?

Bleed ducts? Big grin Bad joke sorry... But a cause for bleedless engines for sure.

I remember the KL flight that hit a bird at TO in AMS a few years ago, didn't notice anything and flew on to BCN, but the impact had destroyed the NLG steering mechanism. After touchdown they couldn't hold it straight (I think NLG was rotated 45deg) and left the runway. No major injuries but the plane was WO.

Of course you can also install TCAS in birds:

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:46 am

This is a duplicate post. I started one yesterday when a good friend called who was aboard. He said it was a wild ride/stop and that the blood was incredible. They got the passengers protected pretty quickly.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:59 am

Here in Bermuda bird strikes are few and far between, though we do have a lot of birds here the local ones seem to know to stay away from "12 and 30"


On the lighter side I came across this great FSX video the other day............

 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:33 am

Quoting Lostturttle (Reply 32):
On the lighter side I came across this great FSX video the other day............

That is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:11 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 33):
That is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

I agree man i agree... LoL
How much have they been stoned for that!?!?

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:52 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 24):
Any Moose strikes??



Quoting HPRamper (Reply 29):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 26):
Not yet. We don't have many Moose in the DFW area, perhaps ANC?

Never heard of a moose strike...but there's always the salmon strike!

Yes, in fact there HAS been a Moose Strike.

IIRC AS 727 and a Moose at the Mudhole Smith Airport in Cordova, AK (CDV). Might have been a 737. Also believe similar has happened at Ketchikan (KTN).


The Salmon Strike is well documented . . . particularly noteworthy is the altitude at which it happened . . .  crazy 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:22 am

In all my years of flying, I have never had a bird strike on my flights. I guess I'm lucky. And I have been flying since 1968. Dang that is a long time ago.

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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:45 am

I remember also reading about a cow strike in Lagos, and even a horse strike in Romania recently...
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:48 am

Here at ASE we have a double fence surrounding the field to keep out our local elk herd. Those things are big, would hate to see what they would do to a global express.
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:06 pm

Quoting JoeCattoli (Reply 34):
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 33):
That is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

I agree man i agree... LoL
How much have they been stoned for that!?!?

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What a name for an airline "Air Exotic", I can think of a few more names that would fit as well!

Also related to this thread is a question, what airport does have the most bird strikes with general aviation?
 
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:29 pm

A friend of mine was taking off at night in his Cessna 210 this fall and encountered a deer just at rotation. He swerved left to try and avoid it, but hit it with the horizontal stabilizer. He then went around the pattern and landed safely, but the stabilizer was totally trashed. He was very lucky that the plane was still controllable. It did about $13,000 damage.
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RE: Bad Bird Strike On A US 734 Today

Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:41 pm

I can remeber as an RAF cadet working on a BAe Hawk that had been bird-struck there were a series of smaller holes in several of the bulkheads each with a generous smear of bird paste surrounding them - just missing the pilots feet!

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