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Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:13 pm

Last November 24th 2006 was delivered to Air France, via its subsidiary Regional Airlines, the first ERJ190.

This aircraft, registered F-HBLA, started regular commercial operations during the first week of December 2006 and is used now on daily flights from Paris-CDG to CFE (Clermont-Ferrand) and MLH (Bâle/Basle-Mulhouse).

With the arrival of the second aircraft, planned within the next few days, flight schedules will change slightly : The first aircraft will make two additional round trip flights per day from CDG : one to BLQ (Bologna) the other one to BIQ (Biarritz).
The second aircraft will fly to BIQ and BES (Brest), and then to CFE and MLH again.
Air France/Regional is the first European airline to operate the Embraer 190.
The aircraft is configured with 100 seats.

Air France/Regional has placed an order for 12 ERJ190 (6 firms + 6 options).


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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:18 pm

For the ones who are interested to fly this bird: AF has some really good deals domestically. CDG return from MLH should be around 100 Euros all taxes included.

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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:56 pm

There's no such thing as an ERJ190. You may consider this aircraft a regional jet, but that's immaterial. Embraer calls it the E190, and that is the correct and only name for it.
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:21 pm

Wonder if they will start sending it to DUS instead of the BritAir F100s. Would be quite nice.  Smile
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:28 pm

Quoting F14D4ever (Reply 2):
There's no such thing as an ERJ190

Actually, type is "ERJ 190-100", the commercial name is E190. The E195 is the "ERJ 190-200".
 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:31 pm

Quoting Ushermittwoch (Reply 3):
Wonder if they will start sending it to DUS instead of the BritAir F100s. Would be quite nice.

Depends on the point of view. We'll see the E(RJ)-190 for another 15 to 20 years, the F-100 maybe another 5 to 8 years in widespread airline use here in Central Europe. I know, which aircraft I would be more glad to see and fly on...  Smile

Besides, from a passenger's point of view, the little Fokkers are quite up to par with most current competitors.
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:38 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 1):
For the ones who are interested to fly this bird: AF has some really good deals domestically. CDG return from MLH should be around 100 Euros all taxes included.

That's exactly what I'm going to do in 3 weeks.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:46 am

Would be nice if they were seen in Cork or Dublin. Any plans to use them to England at least?
 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:27 pm

Thanks FlySSC. I hope I'll jump on one of these nice new birds soon. Are they both operating these routes from CDG or also from ORY. If CDG, will we have some at ORY (from those which are still to be delivered) ?
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:09 pm

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 8):
Are they both operating these routes from CDG or also from ORY.

They are based at CDG. There is no plan for the moment to operate them from ORY.
 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:17 pm

Is Regional Airlines 100% owned by Air France ?


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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Ushermittwoch (Reply 3):
Wonder if they will start sending it to DUS instead of the BritAir F100s. Would be quite nice.

You answer to your question alone. Regional will not replace the Britair's F100 with their ERJ190, Britair will replace their F100 by the aircraft they choose (CRJ900,... ? and when ?)

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 8):
Thanks FlySSC. I hope I'll jump on one of these nice new birds soon. Are they both operating these routes from CDG or also from ORY. If CDG, will we have some at ORY (from those which are still to be delivered) ?
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Regional has no activities from ORY !
 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:58 pm

Yes, Regional, BrittAir and CityJet are all wholly owned subsidiaries of Air France.



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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting FoxXray (Reply 11):
Regional has no activities from ORY

Regional operates from/to CDG and three other hubs in France : CFE (Clermont-Ferrand), LYS (Lyon), and BOD (Bordeaux).

Brit'Air*, Airlinair, CityJet*, CCM, operates flights on behalf of AF from ORY.

* operates also flights to/from CDG.
 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting FoxXray (Reply 11):
You answer to your question alone. Regional will not replace the Britair's F100 with their ERJ190, Britair will replace their F100 by the aircraft they choose (CRJ900,... ? and when ?)

I have my doubts that the CRJ900 would replace the F100 within the Britair fleet. The F100 seats 100 and the CRJ900 only has seating capacity for 86 passengers. Now if BBD decides to produce the CRJ900X, Britair may indeed order that aircraft.

Just my two cents.

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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:37 am

If you go Bombardier.com's Regional Update for September-October 2000, you can read that Brit Air actually had a firm order for 4 x CRJ900 with options for 8 more. Obviously they have been postponed or renegotiated to CRJ700, but back then Brit Air saw a need for the 86-90-seater. And if they only fill 80-85 seats on their 100-seat F100 anyway, perhaps a 90-seat CRJ900 will be exactly what they need... I assume the CR9 has lower ops costs than the F100...?

Regional "peers" Air Nostrum and Air One fly their CR9's with 90 seats, as do AtlasJet and so will LCC MyWay Airlines...
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:38 am

It has been rumored for a long time that sooner or later, Brit'Air and Regional would be merged by AF.
The main problem is/was that the two airlines have a very different fleet that would add extra cost for maintenance, crew training, etc...

It wouldn't be surprising to see the 2 airlines heading toward a similar fleet plan renewal to prepare for a long awaited merging process.
 
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:34 am

Actually there already is some sort of tie between Brit Air and Régional.

Brit Air does operate two Fokker 100 aircraft (F-GPXL/M) on behalf of Régional whicht does in turn operate its flights on behalf of Air France.


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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:38 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 1):
For the ones who are interested to fly this bird: AF has some really good deals domestically. CDG return from MLH should be around 100 Euros all taxes included.

thanks, I think I am going to book a flight just to fly this amazing bird !
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RE: Air France ERJ190 Program

Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:44 pm

Any E190 flights to northern Germany?
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