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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:51 am

GoM to meet on Indian, Air-India merger. No retrenchment of employees expected.
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/gom-to-m...ndian-airindia-merger/30686-7.html

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A Committee of Secretaries (CoS) has given its suggestions on the merger which would be done under the guidance of the GoM headed by External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee. The Civil Aviation Ministry wants the merger process to begin by April 1, and before that the Union Cabinet is likely to approve the final proposal of the GoM.

Accenture, consultants for the merger, has started working on the most important aspect of the entire process -the ways to integrate the staff of the two carriers as well as their subsidiaries, Air-India Express and Alliance Air.

The government has assured there would be no retrenchment of any staffer. The managements of the two carriers have also started consultations with the employees.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:56 am

Not sure what benefits this will bring in terms of cost-saving and economics to the two separate airlines. Doubling the size of the combined entities only means double the chaos and mayhem. They can barely manage the units as they are and by the two merging, which surely will be beset by problems, can not be to the benefit to the taxpayer and consumer.

The purchasing departments of both airlines are notoriously corrupt, every now and then you hear of stories of contracts awarded under unusual terms to third parties despite there being an 'iron-clad' committee that oversees supply contracts. Apart from that, the stores staff are turned over every few years after some scandal occurs where the 'Vigilance' department of each airline finds staff there involved in the theft of aircraft supplies and consumables of all sorts.

I think given the fact that no staff will be retrenched (as per the posting above) as a result of the merger is lsheer unacy and diabolical. Where are the cost savings supposed to come from?
Better to have both carriers separate and streamlined through better management and accountability rather than merging them.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:33 am

Quoting Skyguy (Reply 1):
They can barely manage the units as they are and by the two merging, which surely will be beset by problems, can not be to the benefit to the taxpayer and consumer.

I agree that there will be short term problems due to the merger, but in the long run there are benefits from economies of scale, and scope(better integration of domestic and international flights).

Quoting Skyguy (Reply 1):
I think given the fact that no staff will be retrenched (as per the posting above) as a result of the merger is lsheer unacy and diabolical. Where are the cost savings supposed to come from?

It is politically difficult to bring about a merger unless "no layoff" guarantees are provided for the current employees. However, it may be possible to hire new employees under a different set of rules. The merger--and the acquisition of new aircrafts-- may provide an opportunity to reduce the much bloated employee/aircraft ratio resulting in tremendous cost savings.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:41 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 2):
It is politically difficult to bring about a merger unless "no layoff" guarantees are provided for the current employees. However, it may be possible to hire new employees under a different set of rules. The merger--and the acquisition of new aircrafts-- may provide an opportunity to reduce the much bloated employee/aircraft ratio resulting in tremendous cost savings.

Agreed. My thought (..or 2 cents) is to turn around both carriers and maek them effcient, sell them both to teh private sector and then see if a merger makes sense. The two airlines individually may be worth more than together hence maximize the return the government should get for teh tax payer when they eventually divest their stake in it.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:40 pm

Decsion to replace aircraft on TRV-DXB may hit exports

http://www.hindu.com/2007/01/09/stories/2007010904311700.htm

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The country is likely to lose foreign exchange estimated at Rs.250 crores from exports of fresh vegetables, fruits and other perishables to Dubai if Air India goes ahead with the decision to replace A-310 aircraft with B-737 in the Thiruvananthapuram-Dubai sector with effect from January 11.

The A-310 used by national carrier for its five weekly services in Thiruvananthapuram-Dubai sector can carry 215 passengers and uplift 10-15 tonnes of cargo. The B-737 does not have the facility to lift export cargo, airline sources said.

AI really needs to deploy freighters on the Kerala-Gulf sectors as soon as possible or else it risks losing the lucrative cargo market to the gulf based airlines.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:59 pm

AI has managed to dry lease one more B747-400. It's ex SQ, 9V-SMT (990/27137). Temp registration is N137GP. It is stored at VCV.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 5):
AI has managed to dry lease one more B747-400. It's ex SQ, 9V-SMT (990/27137). Temp registration is N137GP. It is stored at VCV.

Cool. This (along with the 3 744s supposedly leased from Montrose) should definitely ease AI's short term woes. Does anyone know when these aircraft (is it really 4 that have been leased?) are going to enter service?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:23 pm

Does anyone know if S2's 767-300 is leased to AI? I saw it on 22nd December at COK. I'm not sure if there is a reason why a S2 heavy needs to be in COK unless it is leased to AI for the Gulf milk runs. Maybe it was a temporary lease for the Hajj season?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:34 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
GoM to meet on Indian, Air-India merger. No retrenchment of employees expected

Hopefully VRS....
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:09 pm

From what I head S2's 763 is going to be returned to the lessor shortly and will go to Oceanair in Brazil.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:02 am

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 5):
AI has managed to dry lease one more B747-400. It's ex SQ, 9V-SMT (990/27137). Temp registration is N137GP. It is stored at VCV.

Any idea how long have they leased this 747 for ?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:26 am

I think the S2 763 was foing COK-HYD-DEL runs.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:51 am

Jet plea for Sahara refund rejected by the arbitration panel. Does that mean Jet loses the advance completely? If so, it may make sense for Jet to go ahead with the buyout--perhaps at a lower price than the one agreed to earlier.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...d_rejected/articleshow/1115193.cms

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Jet Airways, which is involved in a tussle with its failed takeover target Air Sahara, on Tuesday failed to get respite from an arbitration tribunal on its plea for refund of Rs 500 crore paid as advance.

Jet had sought refund of Rs 500 crore paid by it as advance to Air Sahara, along with interest, after a takeover deal was reached in January last year, but the arbitration tribunal declined the plea in its hearing here, sources said.

Air Sahara had filed a claim before the panel for Rs 3,020 crore before and also sought honouring of the Share Purchase Agreement (SPA) reached by the two parties in January.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:55 am

Jet Airways inks partnership deal with THAI.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/10Jan2007_biz48.php

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Jet Airways, India's largest private airline, has formed a commercial partnership with Thai Airways International as part of its strategy to expand its operations with international carriers on a bilateral basis. In addition to THAI, Jet has struck earlier deals with Lufthansa and British Airways.

''We are not joining any alliance at this time because we are new. We will have bilateral relationships with different countries,'' Jet chairman Naresh Goyal said in an interview in Bangkok yesterday.

The Jet-THAI pact essentially allows both airlines to feed passengers to each other on the routes on which they operate. For instance, passengers on THAI can connect to various domestic Indian cities that it is not serving by using Jet aircraft.

Elsewhere, Jet can fly THAI passengers to San Francisco, to which the Thai national carrier is not operating, from Shanghai, one of Jet's future destinations. The two are discussing an expanded arrangement that would include code-sharing, frequent-flyer programmes and shared check-in facilities, said Mr Goyal.

Jet on Jan 23 will begin services to Thailand with seven weekly flights each on the Bangkok-Delhi and Bangkok-Kolkata routes. It is also making Bangkok its gateway to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China and Japan. Its Asia-Pacific office in Singapore will look after Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:02 pm

Thread on Jet Airways announcements on Newark, and San Francisco plans. Jet Airways To Newark In August, SFO In October (by LAXDESI Jan 10 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:08 am

Hey does anyone have/know new aircraft delivery schedules for IC?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:31 am

India and Singapore sign new MOU
I believe this gives more freq's to flights from SIN to DEL and MAA (may be double daily), some more to BLR and Coimbatore is added as another point in India.

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The agreement also grants airlines from both countries additional "fifth freedom" traffic rights - or the ability to pick up passengers or cargo on each other's territory en route to other destinations


[Edited 2007-01-11 01:44:29]
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:59 am

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 16):
I believe this gives more freq's to flights from SIN to DEL and MAA (may be double daily), some more to BLR and Coimbatore is added as another point in India.

BlrBird, can you provide source for this? Business Line just says that Coimbatore is added in the new treaty. DGCA site is not yet updated.

Airlines from Singapore can operate to Coimbatore

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India and Singapore have agreed to increase the number of seats being offered by their designated airlines in a phased manner till winter 2009.

The designated airlines of Singapore will now be allowed to operate regular flights to Coimbatore, there by increasing its footprint here. This was firmed up at the conclusion of bilateral air services agreement between India and Singapore here late on Tuesday night.

The agreement not only permits airlines from Singapore to increase the current number of flights that they operate to some cities here but also allows similar freedom to airlines from India. ...
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:09 am

Kingfisher Airlines Launches Direct Flights Between Bangalore and Tiruchirapally.
http://www.businesswireindia.com/PressRelease.asp?b2mid=11672

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Kingfisher Airlines, India’s fastest growing private carrier and the first airline in India to offer a premium first class service on domestic routes, today announced the launch of direct flights from Bangalore to Tiruchirapally.

With flights in each direction, these new routes will provide convenient service for business and leisure travelers alike. With the launch of this new route, Kingfisher Airlines will be operating more than 146 flights across 25 cities.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:19 am

Tourist arrivals in India rise 14% in 2006. With accelerating economic growth, and newer/upgraded airports, India can expect to have 10 million visitors by 2010.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...14_in_2006/articleshow/1113195.cms

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Tourist arrivals to India crossed 4.47 million in the calendar year 2006, a growth of 14.3% over January-December ’05. December ’06 had the highest ever number of tourist arrivals to India in the past three years, 5.47 lakh, up 18% over December ’05, and is nearly twice the numbers that arrived in India in December ’02.

2006 has been a good year for Indian tourism, with double-digit growth rates in every month, even during lean months of summer and monsoons. Part of this is business travel, which has been rising all through out 2006 as a result of greater industrial activity and trade. Another key driver is the higher number of airline seats into India, with all the major airlines having increased flights to various destinations in India. In fact, in 2006, it was the airlines of the neighbouring countries like Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, UAE, Qatar and Sri Lanka that raised their seats to cities like Hyderabad, Cochin, Bangalore and Ahmedabad, opening up new destinations in India for tourists. This coupled with greater awareness of India as a destination, courtesy the ‘Incredible India’ campaign airing on the networks of several countries, drove growth in numbers. The US and UK still remain India’s largest inward markets, but tourists from near-by countries are also growing.

These are good numbers for India, but still lag far behind smaller Asian rivals. Singapore, a city-state the size of Mumbai, got 8.8 million visitors in January-November ’06, up 9% and 0.8 million in November ’06 alone. Hong Kong hosted 22.8 million visitors, up 8%. Even accounting for 10 million Chinese mainland visitors, Hong Kong received over 12 million overseas visitors, and nearly 1 million in November ’06, against India’s 0.5 million in the same month.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:01 am

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 16):
India and Singapore sign new MOU
I believe this gives more freq's to flights from SIN to DEL and MAA (may be double daily), some more to BLR and Coimbatore is added as another point in India.

I hope this is true. Would love to see SQ come to MAA twice daily and provide better connections from US and AUS flights. I strongly believe this will be a huge success.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:46 pm

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 17):
BlrBird, can you provide source for this? Business Line just says that Coimbatore is added in the new treaty. DGCA site is not yet updated.

Here's one source: http://app.sprinter.gov.sg/data/pr/20070110995.htm

Additional info/discussion on www.airliners-india.net: http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/...ic.php?t=262&mforum=airlinersindia

I'm certainly hoping that SQ makes use of the additional 5th freedom rights ex-India, and we have a great way to fly to points in Europe/US/Africa.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:50 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 9):
From what I head S2's 763 is going to be returned to the lessor shortly and will go to Oceanair in Brazil.

If this is true, it certainly signifies that S2 has put an end to it's ambitions to fly across the globe. Good luck S2!
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 16):
India and Singapore sign new MOU
I believe this gives more freq's to flights from SIN to DEL and MAA (may be double daily), some more to BLR and Coimbatore is added as another point in India.

So DEL like BOM will get a day flight by SQ. But will SQ downgrade the 777-300 to two 777-200's or is there going to be enough demand for twice daily 777-300's?
On the MAA front, not only do passengers benefit, but a second daily flight will add a lot of cargo capacity, given that Chennai is becoming a mobile manufacturing hub, a second daily flight will help fly in a lot of components.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:08 pm

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
Does anyone know if S2's 767-300 is leased to AI? I saw it on 22nd December at COK. I'm not sure if there is a reason why a S2 heavy needs to be in COK unless it is leased to AI for the Gulf milk runs. Maybe it was a temporary lease for the Hajj season?

Actually AI got it's B763 from flyglobspan. More information as to what S2's B763 was doing at COK can be found at http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/...ic.php?t=125&mforum=airlinersindia
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:37 am

Jet Airways aims for two daily KL-Chennai flights.
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_New...riday/Nation/BT584521.txt/Article/

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Jet Airways plans to double the frequency of its Kuala Lumpur-Chennai flights to cater to the increasing demand for the service. The route is now served once daily. Chairman Naresh Goyal said the airline is now fine-tuning the plan and hopes to introduce the added frequency at the start of its summer schedule in June.

He pointed out that the Kuala Lumpur-Chennai route has been enjoying healthy passenger volume, with an average load factor of 75 per cent for the past 12 months. "That is a good load. Usually in an airline business, it is time to start thinking of increasing the frequency of a particular flight service once load factor has reached 75 per cent.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:44 am

MAS-Jet Airways scheduled to discuss code sharing.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...siness/20070111190205&sec=business

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India’s Jet Airways chairman Naresh Goyal is scheduled to hold discussions with senior Malaysia Airlines (MAS) officials on Friday to work out a code share arrangement for flights between Malaysia and India.

He is expected to meet MAS chairman Datuk Dr Munir Majid and managing director Idris Jala in the hope of forming a partnership for the carriers to ride on each other’s network to provide international and domestic connectivity.

He also foresees the carrier flying the Mumbai-KL sector by November. The airline, he added, was also considering flying a bigger aircraft, a A330 instead of the B737, for the Chennai-KL route.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:56 am

QATAR AIRWAYS ANNOUNCES HUGE EXPANSION IN INDIA.
http://travelvideo.tv/news/more.php?id=10600_0_1_0_M

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Qatar Airways recently announced a huge expansion of its operations across India with the launch of two new routes and the introduction of additional capacity on existing services. Beginning April 2007, Chennai in southern India, and Ahmedabad, in western India, will join Qatar Airways’ burgeoning Indian network, which already includes non-stop services from Doha to Mumbai, Delhi, Hyderabad, Cochin and Trivandrum.

Chennai, capital of Tamil Nadu state, and the Gujarat capital of Ahmedabad, will each be served with seven flights a week from the start of the Summer 2007 flying season.

With immediate effect, the Doha-based carrier has been granted rights by the Indian government to increase capacity to the country’s commercial capital of Mumbai and the southern city of Trivandrum with its bigger, state-of-the-art Airbus A330 aircraft – almost doubling the number of seats on both routes, each served daily.

The Cochin and Hyderabad flights will see frequency increase by two and three flights, respectively, to give both cities a daily operation, and each served with a two-class Airbus A321
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:24 am

3K pulls plug on SIN-BLR
They have not released any PR yet but it is gone their site, I guess without connecting traffic and high fares(for an LCC) they could not sustain this route!
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:12 pm

i am relocating to dubai as i hve got a job there . i am movin on the 17th... flying EK....

just wondering what 2 expect on EK..... guess they fly the 772 on the DEL-DXB route and do they have PTVs on their economy???

Hey Mel, Any idea if Oliver is still in DXB???

So any of you fellow a.netter in DXB anytime, we shuld meet up.....

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:39 pm

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 29):
just wondering what 2 expect on EK..... guess they fly the 772 on the DEL-DXB route and do they have PTVs on their economy???

EK is a fantastic airline and they do have PTVs on every seat. If you get lucky you may have one of the B777s fitted with their award winning ICE(Information Communication Entertainment) Inflight entertainment system. This would allow you to rewind, forward and play movies from wherever you like. They have a healthy collection of Bolly/holly movies
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:43 pm

Forgot to add... As part of ther ICE system they have forward and downward camera views as well. This would give you an excellent view of the runway while taking off and on final approach.

[Edited 2007-01-12 06:45:39]
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:45 pm

Quoting Threekay76 (Reply 31):
Forgot to add... As part of ther ICE system they have forward and downward camera views as well. This woukd give you an excellent view of the runway while taking off and on final approach.

thats fantastic..... hpefully they get that a/c.... thanks.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:47 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 27):
state-of-the-art Airbus A330 aircraft – almost doubling the number of seats on both routes, each served daily.

Thats a much needed upgrade from the usual 320/321 that piles the route--any announcement from when this EQ change will take place.

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 29):
am relocating to dubai as i hve got a job there . i am movin on the 17th... flying EK....

Nice mate, have a good life ahead and yes Oliver is still there as far as i can remember.

I think EK use the A332 on the route however during peak winter EQ swaps are very possible.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:36 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 33):
Nice mate, have a good life ahead

thanks karan.... hopefully you come there sometimes... if you do want to continue with your adventures to fly new planes/airlines and want to visit DXB, let me know, i will send u a visa.....  Wink
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:30 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 33):

I think EK use the A332 on the route however during peak winter EQ swaps are very possible.

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EK use A332 most times to BOM, but I've seen T7s on that route more than once.

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 29):
i am relocating to dubai as i hve got a job there . i am movin on the 17th... flying EK....

Welcome to Dubai! I'm sure you'll like it here! Maybe we can catch up sometime.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:26 am

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 34):
karan.... hopefully you come there sometimes... if you do want to continue with your adventures to fly new planes/airlines and want to visit DXB, let me know, i will send u a visa.....

Thanks for the generous offer mate--i have been 8 times to DXB already thanks to most of my flights being on EK, infact i was there as recently as last May.

Quoting BigTom (Reply 35):
EK use A332 most times to BOM, but I've seen T7s on that route more than once.

Yes infact today me and Vivek went spotting we saw the 777-300ER got a shot of it but not a very good one though,

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:02 am

Thai AirAsia(FD) looking at Indian destinations

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Chief Executive Officer Tassapon Bijleveld said the three-year-old airline, which flew three million passengers in 2006, will focus on opening three to four routes in middle and small size cities in China this year before going into the untapped markets in India.

He said among the cities in China being considered are Kunming, Guangzhou and Shenzhen while in India, it hopes to fly to Chennai, Bangalore, Calcutta, Bodhgaya which is the spiritual home of Buddhists and several cities along the Indian border with Bangladesh and Myanmar.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:54 am

Aviation industry to create 40 lakh jobs in 10 years.
http://www.samachar.com/showurl.htm?...e~40~lakh~jobs~in~10~years:~Praful
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:29 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 38):
Aviation industry to create 40 lakh jobs in 10 years.

Just for those not in the know: 40 lakh = 4 million
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:10 pm

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 37):
Thai AirAsia(FD) looking at Indian destinations

Looks like the India-SE Asian skies are getting pretty busy. When I was based in Bangkok a while back, the only non-stops to BOM were CX about 4 times a week and for some time KE about three times. AI used to fly BKK-BOM via CCU or DEL which was quite a pain.
Isn't AK also planning to fly into India soon?

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:10 pm

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 29):
am relocating to dubai as i hve got a job there . i am movin on the 17th...

Surprise.....What transpired.

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 29):
Hey Mel, Any idea if Oliver is still in DXB???

Last heard He was in DXB.No ctc since a few months though.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:03 am

India is all for ‘open skies’, PM tells Asean.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5922_1899880,0015002500000000.htm

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Prime Minister Manmohan Singh took forward India's "Look East" policy on Sunday as he sounded positive on a regional "open skies" arrangement that could boost easier flights – and thus, trade – across Asia.

Stressing the need for greater connectivity between India and the region, Singh said: "At our last summit, the Prime Minister of Singapore had proposed that we should now look at an open skies policy. We have examined this proposal and would be willing to engage Asean authorities in a discussion on such a policy."
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:47 am

Interesting info. on wages, post AI-IC merger.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...-IA_family/articleshow/1187444.cms

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The merger of Air India and Indian would turn out to be a bonanza for some sections of employees in both the companies. The government has decided to smoothen resistance from staffers by resorting to pay hikes for employees of one airline if the scales for the same grade are higher in the other company.

In effect, the wage bill of the merged entity would be higher than that of the two entities before the marriage. At current levels, salaries would constitute nearly 23% of the merged entity’s total expenditure.

The merged entity would have 32,832 employees, making it one of the largest employers in the country. As of now, Air India has 15,197 employees while Indian employs 17,635.

The government has said nobody should lose out while merging the pay scales of the two airlines, civil aviation ministry sources said. Therefore, the only option is to increase the salaries of those falling in a lower scale. To ensure that employees do not oppose the merger, the government has also committed that there would be no job losses. Over time, it is estimated the merged entity’s wage bill could be nearly 30% of its total expenditure. However, savings from synergy in operations and growing turnover on account of integrated operations are expected to offset the increase in salaries.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:38 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 42):
India is all for ‘open skies’, PM tells Asean.

If this goes through, it will definitely lead to easier connectivity and incentivise further business contacts through the region.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:51 am

Thread on AI/IC merger. Air India, Indian Merger By March 31 (by LAXDESI Jan 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:28 pm

Thread on AI's new livery on 772LR. AI's New Livery! (by AirplaneFan Jan 16 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:17 pm

Quoting BigTom (Reply 35):
Welcome to Dubai! I'm sure you'll like it here! Maybe we can catch up sometime.
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Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 41):
Surprise.....What transpired.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:52 pm

AI's new livery looks interesting, though a bit incomplete. Maybe it's the angle. Glad that the centaur is back though.

Now that both IC and AI have new liveries, I wonder if they will keep them in the new merged entity a la KLM-AF and maintain separate identities or will they go through the entire re-branding exercise again? According to news reports the new entity will have separate divisions looking after domestic, international and LCC operations. Any comments?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 40

Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:53 pm

Quoting BigTom (Reply 48):
Now that both IC and AI have new liveries, I wonder if they will keep them in the new merged entity a la KLM-AF and maintain separate identities

Thats what me thinks.

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