Thrust
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Narrowbody International Service U.S. Carriers

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:08 am

Well, so far it appears that almost every airline of The Big Five (American, Continental, Delta, Northwest, United) in the U.S. has added more widebodies and even narrow-bodies to their international front except for United. DL recently announced that they will be sending all their widebodies to the international front as well as some 757s. So far the only carriers that have not shown intentions put the 757 on the international front is United (I believe NW was sending their 757s to Guam and Tokyo awhile back, do not know if that's still the case) I guess my question is why is United not going along with everyone else and putting all of their widebodies and even some 757s on their transatlantic routes? They have 763ERs that they appear to be keeping on the domestic front while the 757 is seeing no overseas action whatsoever save perhaps the Caribbean and Hawaii. I guess I was wondering if someone could tell me if United has any plans for the 757 to fly to Europe or to put all of their 767s on the international routes like DL did...or are they not necessary because of UA's domestic 777s?
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RE: Narrowbody International Service U.S. Carriers

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:19 am

When you say "International", I'm assuming that you're talking about Transatlantic and Transpacific. My response follows that assumption.

Quoting Thrust (Thread starter):
DL recently announced that they will be sending all their widebodies to the international front as well as some 757s

I don't know if they've announced anything, rather, it's based off a magazine article and some heresay. DL's route network needs some widebodies domestically, and while their 763's (non-ER) can make it from JFK to the UK, they can't really be used to open up new routes. We might see them replace some 764's to Hawaii though. The ex-TWA planes will be used for Hawaii and Europe.

Quoting Thrust (Thread starter):
(I believe NW was sending their 757s to Guam and Tokyo awhile back, do not know if that's still the case)

NW does base a lot of 757's in NRT for intra-Asia service. They're also planning to send some TATL next summer, to AMS, BRU, and DUS among others.

Quoting Thrust (Thread starter):
So far the only carriers that have not shown intentions put the 757 on the international front is United

It's been said before on this board that UA's 757s have less powerful engines that are not conducive to TATL operations.

Quoting Thrust (Thread starter):
I guess I was wondering if someone could tell me if United has any plans for the 757 to fly to Europe or to put all of their 767s on the international routes like DL did...or are they not necessary because of UA's domestic 777s?

757 probably not based on the above. With respect to the domestic 767/777, those are needed for UA's very strong Hawaii operations. Don't know about the 763's, but the 777's are the non-ER versions which significantly limits range. They might be able to do IAD-Europe, but probably not much more than that.

If UA decided to add more TATL flights (with a 763), LIS seems like a good candidate. It's a Star Alliance hub, is very successful for CO/US, and is relatively close range-wise. Might be a good candidate for a non-ER plane.
 
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RE: Narrowbody International Service U.S. Carriers

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:49 am

Well, I'd presume the reason is that unlike the other airlines that are a bit constricted on aircrafts for their international destinations, UA has enough to carry out their operations. They are also not doing any international expansions like DL or CO and so theres no need add the narrow bodies to international duties.
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Thrust
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RE: Narrowbody International Service U.S. Carriers

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:19 am

Yes...I mean transatlantically and transpacifically...sorry for not clearing that up earlier.
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