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Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:21 am

Nearly every plane that lands at LHR throughout the day is required to hold for a while at Bovingdon/Lambourne/Ockham/Biggin.

What other Airports utilise holding patterns to this extent?
Are the LHR holds the most used for any airport in the world?

Any info appreciated, that many planes in such close proximity makes holding patterns a wonderful thing to observe and be a part of (unless of course you're a pilot/business flyer/non-plane-enthusiast)

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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:53 am

I know ORD does have quite a few, 4 AFAIK, and I know there are many more at other airports, I just can't think as to which ones right now. Its not too uncommon.
 
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:12 am

Im pretty sure all airports with a lot of traffic use holding patterns. I know EWR uses them
 
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:33 am

I know when storms are in the area of DTW they hold sometime out over the lakes. I've been on flights twice where we've circled a couple of times over Lake St. Clair. Once due to a power failure of the runways lights during a storm is what we were told and another time just due to heavy traffic.
 
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:34 am

Traffic at BOM airport has increased so much in the past few years...during peak times, ie. early morning, evenings and late night (10pm - 12pm or so), almost any flight approaching BOM has to go into a holding pattern, usually east of the airport, on the approach to rwy 27...
 
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:40 am

NRT at around between 3-6 p.m. has a lot of planes on holding patterns.
 
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:48 am

Every airport with an arrival procedure and/or an instrument approach has a published holding procedure. Traffic flow and weather determine whether they are used. In some cases, at busier airports, like hubs, when things get backed up, ground stops will be instituted. These ground stops will hold a plane at the departure airport, in an attempt to reduce airborne holding, so that the plane arrives at the arrival airport at a time the is more conducive to it being handled. Most like, airports like LHR, you will see a number of planes holding due to the high number of international arrivals, who can't easily be delayed via a ground stop because the flights are so long.
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:48 am

There have been a number of times when coming into SLC, and coming in ahead of schedule once from SAN the other from YVR we've been put into a holding pattern to the south for the 34R or L vector we find ourselves circling the Fairfield, Cedar Fort and Eagle Mountain areas of Utah County:
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Similarly coming in from the north, planes will often circle the Great Salt Lake before being put into a pattern for a final approach vector on runways 16R or L.

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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:49 am

The only time I can ever recall being on an airliner that had to hold was an HP flight coming into PHX. The strange thing was that the weather was perfectly clear! We were held to the Southeast of the field, which was also strange because the flight I was on had come in from PDX...we took about 3 turns in the hold before landing on 25L. The flight crew advised us of the delay (via the PA), but they never said why.
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:54 am

The guy's not asking which airports have and use holding patterns-- he's asking which airports put 80-90% (?) of their arrivals into a hold, day in and day out, good weather and bad. None in the US-- right? How about Europe?
 
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:50 pm

Quoting Brandonb (Reply 2):
Im pretty sure all airports with a lot of traffic use holding patterns.

As mentioned in other posts, most all arrival routes in major terminal areas have some published holding patterns for the enroute or terminal facility to use should there be a need....having said that, airports that have high arrival rates in the U.S. normally do NOT put aircraft holding as the airport is able to accept many more arrivals than the enroute structure can feed the terminal facility. Should there be a need to shut off an arrival route for any number of reasons (weather, aircraft incident, equipment outage, etc.) charted holding allows the facility to be certain of separation with adjacent holding patterns at the same altitude.
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RE: Airports With Holding Patterns

Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:50 pm

Quoting Timz (Reply 9):
The guy's not asking which airports have and use holding patterns-- he's asking which airports put 80-90% (?) of their arrivals into a hold, day in and day out, good weather and bad. None in the US-- right? How about Europe?

Yea that's what I was gettin' at. I know basically every STAR for any airport worldwide has published holds but how many are actually used in the same way as the LHR holds?

I've flown in America a lot and never been put in a hold even going into airports such as ORD, JFK and SFO. Is it more common in Europe/Asia/Oceania?
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