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747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:36 am

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=90515c6dd0

When did this happen and where?
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:49 am

If I remember right, it's just about six month ago in Central America (Nicaragua or Guatemala???). I keep thinking, it may come back to my mind who it was and where exactly. But as far as I remember, it wasn't an aborted take off, it was a landing on an wet runway. Sorry, not having more yet,

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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:51 am

I have a link in French.

It was a B747-200F of Tradewind International Airlines failing to take-off from Medelin on June 7th, 2006.

http://www.1001crash.com/index-page-video-lg-1.html

Le 7 juin 2006, alors que ce Boeing 747-200F cargo est en train de décoller de l'aéroport de Rionegro/Medellín-José María Córdova (Colombie), un de ses 4 moteurs tombe en panne. Le Jumbo, appartenant à Tradewinds International Airlines, interrompt immédiatement son décollage et freine. Mais le sol est mouillé à cause d'une pluie battante, et le B747 n'arrive pas à s'arrêter avant le bout de la piste. Il parcourt 150 mètres dans l'herbe, subissant d'importants dommages. Les 5 membres d'équipage sont indemnes. La scène a été filmée par les caméras de l'aéroport
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:51 am

Medellin, Colombia. 6/7/06. Tradewinds B747-200.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...807X01100&ntsbno=DCA06WA049&akey=1
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:52 am

Quoting Gbfra (Reply 2):



Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 1):

was everyone involved ok?
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:52 am

Yes. They all remained safe.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:54 am

I think everyone was OK. My favourite bit is whoever is operating the camera turns to the 747, sees it's not going to stop, and pans ahead to where it's going to crash! I can't help but find it comical. Shame about the aircraft (and probably the crew's careers).
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:57 am

Quoting Blasphemystic (Reply 4):
was everyone involved ok?

I believe it was a cargo plane heading to Miami carrying mostly flowers. Has been a while but pretty sure this was the case.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:57 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 6):
Shame about the aircraft (and probably the crew's careers).

One can only assume that distance calculations were incorrect for the wet runway. Otherwise an engine out on take-off should not typically lead to this kind of thing. Either you have enough space to stop or you are at/beyond V1 and need to press on.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:21 am

Le 7 juin 2006, alors que ce Boeing 747-200F cargo est en train de décoller de l'aéroport de Rionegro/Medellín-José María Córdova (Colombie), un de ses 4 moteurs tombe en panne. Le Jumbo, appartenant à Tradewinds International Airlines, interrompt immédiatement son décollage et freine. Mais le sol est mouillé à cause d'une pluie battante, et le B747 n'arrive pas à s'arrêter avant le bout de la piste. Il parcourt 150 mètres dans l'herbe, subissant d'importants dommages. Les 5 membres d'équipage sont indemnes. La scène a été filmée par les caméras de l'aéroport

Translated: On June 7, 2006, this Boeing 747-200F cargo liner is taking off from the airport of Rionegro/Medellín-Jose María Córdova (Colombia), when one of its 4 engines breaks down. The Jumbo, belonging to International Tradewinds Airlines, stops it's t.o immediately and slows down, but the ground is wet because of rain, and the B747 is not able to stop before the end of the runway. It traverses 150 meters in grass, suffering significant damage. The 5 members of crew are unscathed. The scene was filmed by the cameras of the airport.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:11 am

And the final result can be seen here:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1121679/M/

Sucks, huh?
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:15 am

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 10):
And the final result can be seen here:

Its funny (not a "haha" type funny) how everything is demolished except the nose section.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:18 am

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 11):
Quoting EasternSon (Reply 10):
And the final result can be seen here:

Its funny (not a "haha" type funny) how everything is demolished except the nose section.

That picture must be during the removal/scrapping of the aircraft.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:25 pm

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 11):
Its funny (not a "haha" type funny) how everything is demolished except the nose section.

That is the new Boeing option for cargo planes. During a crash the nose section is ejected and comes to the ground slowly by parachute, saving the pilots but ruining the plane for future use.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:36 pm

I think they dismantled the plane people......Did we see it explode into a million pieces when it stopped...NO, I think not.......get a grip.....

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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 14):
I think they dismantled the plane people

Are you sure? I think it exploded and the only thing to survive was the cockpit section and a perfectly intact pickup truck.  duck 
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:38 pm

Funny (yes, haha funny) responses.

The plane was dismantled after the costs were deemed too high.

I believe they save the nose section of the plane because it is rich with rotable equipment, like avionics, radar and the like.

I don't think the plane overran the runway, came to a stop, shuddered and then fell apart, ala a bad cartoon. I think Boeing builds the 747 a little stronger than that.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:22 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 15):
Are you sure? I think it exploded and the only thing to survive was the cockpit section and a perfectly intact pickup truck.

Never underestimate a good old pickup truck!

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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:43 am

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 11):
Its funny (not a "haha" type funny) how everything is demolished except the nose section.



Quoting EasternSon (Reply 16):
I believe they save the nose section of the plane because it is rich with rotable equipment, like avionics, radar and the like.

More often than not, the cockpit section goes to a training school - we have a couple of ex leased 747-200 or -300s at Kemble airfield just up the road from me that are undergoing scrapping, and they removed the cockpit section of one of them in exactly that manner prior to cutting up the rest of the aircraft. Upon asking, the cockpit was due to be shipped to a training school, tho I am unsure as to what type (fire, MX etc).
 
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:10 am

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 18):
More often than not, the cockpit section goes to a training school

In what form are they used in training school? For what purpose? study the crash effects?
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting Blasphemystic (Reply 19):
In what form are they used in training school? For what purpose? study the crash effects?

Cockpit training - as close to the real thing as you can get without actually getting a real 747?
 
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting Blasphemystic (Reply 19):
In what form are they used in training school? For what purpose? study the crash effects?

Familiarization with the cockpit layout? Maintenance training?

It sure would make a badass MS Flight Sim cockpit!
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:06 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 21):
It sure would make a badass MS Flight Sim cockpit!

Build a hut around it, bolt a flat screen against each windscreen, and a whole bunch of wiring, and you would be the envy of just about everyone on this site.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:35 am

I tell you what is shocking about that vid. When the jumbo is approaching the very end of the runway it's obviously still going quite fast (hence not stopping in time!). However once it came off the runway it seems like there is some SERIOUS deceleration! It managed to go from that speed (at the end of the runway) to ZERO quite quickly.
To say the pilots seatbelts were merely "tested" in this accident is a bit of an understatement!  Wow!
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:12 am

This video and report on it has already been discussed.
 
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:13 am

Quoting Climb1 (Reply 23):
I tell you what is shocking about that vid. When the jumbo is approaching the very end of the runway it's obviously still going quite fast (hence not stopping in time!). However once it came off the runway it seems like there is some SERIOUS deceleration! It managed to go from that speed (at the end of the runway) to ZERO quite quickly.
To say the pilots seatbelts were merely "tested" in this accident is a bit of an understatement!

Yes and no. Given the size of the jet we may be a bit fooled by perspective. But I would agree it seemed to go at quite a clip.

Having said that, even a sudden stop at 20km/h is quite a jolt. Try going to 20km/h in a car and really slamming the brakes.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:48 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 25):
Try going to 20km/h in a car and really slamming the brakes.

I have crashed cars intentionally before and even when your ready for it it still is a jolt!  banghead 
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:57 am

Quoting Continental123 (Reply 24):
This video and report on it has already been discussed

Thank you for that bit of knowledge. We will all rest easy now.
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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:01 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 25):
Given the size of the jet we may be a bit fooled by perspective. But I would agree it seemed to go at quite a clip.

You're right that given the perspective and the size of the plane I wouldn't even hazard a guess at how fast he was going but even still, to stop in 150 m (500 ft) is pretty impressive for a 747.

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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:45 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 27):
Thank you for that bit of knowledge. We will all rest easy now.


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RE: 747 Crash After Aborted Take Off (video)

Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:01 pm

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 11):
Its funny (not a "haha" type funny) how everything is demolished except the nose section.

Doncha think it possible that fire may have been a problem which resulted in the final condition of the plane (especially if there were dried flowers on board...)  Wink Coincidentally, as they were taking off for MIA, there might have been a few gallons of fuel on board as well!

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