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Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:46 am

Howdy!

Just to start, I am a naturlized Texan, not a native  Smile


Not to copy the Irish at all, but seems Texas is gettin alot of new service here in the next few months.

IAH will soon be recieving Korean Air 74F's starting in two weeks, not to mention the upstart of "Valiant Airways" 747's serving the Halliburton shuttle to Africa. Chautauqua has recently started service Continental Express with CRJ's and ERJ-145's. The rumors about Emirates starting IAH service seem to grow bigger by the day, as is the CO IAH-TLV service.

Into Houston-Hobby, jetBlue will soon be downgrading service to JFK to EMB-190's to use the 320's on longer runs. Hobby's renovation seems about ready to start and the monthly event at the 1940's Terminal Air Museum grow bigger and better every event.

Up the northwestern part of the republic, AMA is seeing upgrades from AE and WN to CRJ700's and 73G's respectively.

Up Dallas ways, AirTran is starting Dallas-Chicago service and AA has announced FF programs with MALEV Hungarian. The Wright Amendmant debate is as hot as ever.

Austin is seeing expansion with new non-stop service to SEA on American mainline.

Will be a busy year here in Texas. The energy market is booming, our economy is booming, and most important of all, the Sooners went home empty handed.

Not to steal a famous a.netter's phrase but,

Hook 'em Horns and dont mess with Texas!


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Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:51 am

Quoting ATCT (Thread starter):

Up the northwestern part of the republic, AMA is seeing upgrades from AE and WN to CRJ700's and 73G's respectively.

:D



Also, Is AUS becoming a focuspoint for AA (or is SEA one? i am confused)? Or is this just a non hub/spoke route (AUS-SEA). Good news for AUS!  Smile

Quoting ATCT (Thread starter):
Hook 'em Horns and dont mess with Texas!

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:27 am

http://www.fly2houston.com/0/93828/0/1906D1934/

Looks like the Air India rumors were also true  Smile

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:35 am

Quoting ATCT (Thread starter):
Hook 'em Horns and dont mess with Texas!

I like the ending of your post! I've been saying it for almost a year, and those from the outside just don't understand the pride.
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:58 am

Quoting ATCT (Thread starter):
AirTran is starting Dallas-Chicago service

I thought they were ENDING this service? I know they did DFW-MDW in the past, but thought that they were terminating it now, rather than resuming it.

I live in Alaska now (and like it, don't get me wrong), but Texas will always be home.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:00 am

Quoting ATCT (Thread starter):
IAH will soon be recieving Korean Air 74F's starting in two weeks, not to mention the upstart of "Valiant Airways" 747's serving the Halliburton shuttle to Africa. Chautauqua has recently started service Continental Express with CRJ's and ERJ-145's. The rumors about Emirates starting IAH service seem to grow bigger by the day, as is the CO IAH-TLV service.

The Korean service has been announced, and some say it's a precursor to scheduled service by KE to IAH. The lure is the CO hub.

Valiant I've heard of, but there has been no definite announcementof a start-up date, and I have trouble believing they're sufficiently capitalized. Emirates won't be seen this year (I doubt they'll make a move) and Air India is another rumor on a slow boil. Continental may add another city in Mexico, but they won't add TLV (the 777 will have better use elsewhere in their system - like IAH-Buenos Aires). Wild cards are Egyptair, TAAG Angola, Virgin Nigeria, Qatar or Etihad and one unnamed low-fare carrier from Mexico. I also keep thinking COPA would be a natural, as would Houston-Madrid, but that's dependent on CO.

As for DFW, Qantas appears to be the next best prospect, although I could see a few additional cargo carriers setting up shop there.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:06 am

Ahhh a Texas pride thread--I'll be the first to offer an olive branch to the Dallasites on the board and join with talk of DFW  Wink

I just got off of JetBlue 625 JFK-HOU and it was about 75% full. I think that until they really get established in the Houston market a mix of 190s and 320s would probably be best. One thing I noticed was that on their cycling airshow where they list 'Newest additions to the family' they listed Sarasota, Nashville, Cancun, and O'Hare but they did not list Hobby...interesting.
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:12 am

Quoting Toxtethogrady (Reply 5):
I also keep thinking COPA would be a natural, as would Houston-Madrid, but that's dependent on CO.

I don't believe COPA can fly direct to CO hubs per their agreement. I could be wrong.
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:12 am

Quoting Toxtethogrady (Reply 5):
As for DFW, Qantas appears to be the next best prospect....

Would QF ever set up shop in IAH. I flown to LAX multiple times and done the walk to TBIT, along with multiple others going onto QF?
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:23 am

The Austin economy is booming; jobs, hospitals, malls, etc, etc. Great for aviation growth. I think we will see passenger numbers continue to grow at ABIA.

Hook 'em Horns!
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:26 am

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 8):
Would QF ever set up shop in IAH

No. It's strictly a OneWorld hub thing.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:28 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 7):
I don't believe COPA can fly direct to CO hubs per their agreement. I could be wrong.

Let's see what happens when CO sells the rest of COPA off. Till then not even AeroRepublica will set up shp at IAH.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:47 am

Alma Air starting service to IAH? I know a few pilots there and they didnt think so but that would be great so see em.

Is Aeromexico bringin Aero Littoral back? I see they a file a flight plan to MMMY every afternoon but no plane.


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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:50 am

"Hook 'em Horns?" Hey, my best friend is an Aggie!

Seriously, do you know what type of aircraft CO plans to flew IAH-TLV? I would guess a 777, but I wasn't sure.
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:52 am

For a SkyTeam partner, Aeromexico is making little of its access to the IAH hub and all that feed traffic that CO generates. Maybe CO is insisting on keeping the Mexico services to itself. But IAH to MTY, GDL, CUN and Leon would seem to be large enough markets for CO to share with AM.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:58 am

What ever happened to UA Express SAT ops ???????????
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:01 am

Quoting COSPN (Reply 15):
What ever happened to UA Express SAT ops ???????????

short lived focus city id say.



Anyone know if anything good will happen to AMA eventually? AMA-SLC. AMA-PHX or AMA-IAH mainline (not this crapload of 145XRs...:D)




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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:01 am

UA decided the market wasn't responding and pulled the plug.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:05 am

Do you guys think CO IAH SPS service is a possibility one day?
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 am

One day. But that business with X-Jet and Chautauqua has to sort itself out.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 18):
Do you guys think CO IAH SPS service is a possibility one day?

Ive thought that would be a good run for Colgan on the Saabs. Give AA a run for its money.

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:11 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 18):
Do you guys think CO IAH SPS service is a possibility one day?

Possibly, but not daily. If so, itd be operated by Colgan air with their props. Id say 4-5x a week if it happened.


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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:18 am

okay, so with the wright amendment resolving, will AMA/MAF/LBB become gateways to the west?
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 am

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 22):
okay, so with the wright amendment resolving, will AMA/MAF/LBB become gateways to the west?

Since they canfly direct to LAS and PHX now, we might get cut off in MAF. They use MAF for a "jumping off" point.

On the other hand, it would be nice to be able to fly MAF-DAL-BNA instead of having to go through HOU.

I was in HOU several times recently. Man, they have put a lot of money in that place! We used to call it "The Dirty Little Airport" but it's really nice now.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:34 am

Quoting Queso (Reply 23):

We need AMA-HOU/AUS  hissyfit  AMA-DAL-AUS/HOU direct flights suck Sad. I guess WN is afraid to compete with CO's full ERJ145XRs to IAH. On the other hand, there is definitely demand for AUS.....


Meanwhile, AMA-LAS loads are always full. thats good. What about AMA/MAF-PHX? AMA-ABQ-PHX on a direct flight sucks too.





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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:46 am

The WN flights to PHX from MAF go through ELP. Funny flight, you get to ELP 10 minutes before you leave MAF!

We do have a couple of MAF-LAS flights a day though so that's good. Just to lay it all out, here are the direct flights in and out of MAF:

CO:
IAH

AA:
DFW

WN:
LAS
ABQ
ELP
AUS
HOU

DL used to fly into MAF a couple of years ago but they got slaughtered and pulled out, MAF was never profitable for them.

The new terminal building at MAF was completed in 1999 and is similar in layout to the new airport at AUS.

Due to the big runways at MAF we have a lot of military training traffic such as T-1 Jayhawks and C-5 Galaxies.

Back in the old days, I remember CO flying DC-9's and 727's and Texas International flew DC-9's into MAF.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:47 am

Quoting ATCT (Reply 12):
Alma Air starting service to IAH? I

What is Alma Air? Sounds like the former capital (Alma Alta, now Almaty) of Borat's home country Kazakhstan

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 8):
Would QF ever set up shop in IAH. I flown to LAX multiple times and done the walk to TBIT, along with multiple others going onto QF?

Well the chance of seeing a QF bird at 'E' is about as likely as Houston seeing snow in July. I frequent Aussie every other year or so as I have family there, I also lived there for a few years in the early 90s and frankly there is little interest in Texas amongst Aussies (for some odd reason they love Calif) . I am going to go out on a limb and say that I believe that most of the traffic between the US and Aussie is either leisure or VFR, not so much business or trade, which is where Houston shines on it's int'l services. Short of a huge deposits of oil being discovered off say, Western Australia, or elsewhere and 'little Houstons' popping up all over WA, don't hold your breath. I suppose QF could dump Oneworld and sign onto Skyteam but again, not too likely.

Hell, I wish there was a direct flight between Houston and Aussie, I'd gladly pay the premium to avoid that hellhole LAX  banghead .

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:59 am

Quoting Queso (Reply 25):
CO:
IAH

AA:
DFW

WN:
LAS
ABQ
ELP
AUS
HOU

DL used to fly into MAF a couple of years ago but they got slaughtered and pulled out, MAF was never profitable for them.

similar to us


CO:
IAH

AA:
DFW

WN:
ABQ
DAL
LAS
AUS (direct)
HOU (direct)
PHX (direct)

ZK:
Den


DL was slaughtered years ago due to DAL, but strong rumors of OO AMA-SLC stay alive.



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Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:05 am

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 26):
Hell, I wish there was a direct flight between Houston and Aussie, I'd gladly pay the premium to avoid that hellhole LAX

At least we can hope for that service with CO with all those beautiful 787 one day. I also hope they go for their 20 options!!!
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:11 am

Anyone think AMA-IAH could go with 737s from CO? or are we going to be trapped in this XJT/Chautauqua hell?





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Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:17 am

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 27):
strong rumors of OO AMA-SLC stay alive.

Of course it's not my decision to make but I think WN could do MAF-DEN very profitably. CO used to fly DEN-AMA-LBB-MAF (in the 80's) and they were always full.

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 29):
Anyone think AMA-IAH could go with 737s from CO?

I think they'd just increase frequency on the RJ's before they would use mainline metal.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:40 am

Quoting Queso (Reply 30):
think they'd just increase frequency on the RJ's before they would use mainline metal.

rahh! 10 RJs each way is enough. oh well. i think MAF/LBB-DEN would do great. Doubt AMA could support it though. We hardly fill these B1900s from ZK, they cost about 250$ r/t (sometimes oneway!)to fly them.
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:42 am

I just finished reading the book "Friday Night Lights". So I have Midland on my mine. It looks like a real nice terminal on Google maps. I'm surprised the cities of Midland/Odessa don't try to lure more airlines to fly into it. I know America West had flights to PHX in the past, and UAX had flights up to DEN.
 
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:55 am

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 32):

been to MAF before, but not since the "New" terminal. And the old one was a dump. Similar to AMA's current terminal (Which is being replaced  Smile) here is a artists rendering of the new AMA


Big version: Width: 512 Height: 384 File size: 32kb
The artists rendering of what our new airport will look like (AMA), the old one is going to be torn down . Yes its more then 4 gates LOL
Big version: Width: 369 Height: 512 File size: 67kb
The proposed diagram of the NEW AMA terminal
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:00 pm

Quoting GoDIA (Reply 13):
Seriously, do you know what type of aircraft CO plans to flew IAH-TLV? I would guess a 777, but I wasn't sure.

I think as of now that is just a rumor. I think destinations like FRA and MAD would come first from IAH as opposed to TLV. DXB is a definate possiblity from IAH at some point. I would expect that to come from EK as opposed to CO.

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 26):
I frequent Aussie every other year or so as I have family there, I also lived there for a few years in the early 90s and frankly there is little interest in Texas amongst Aussies (for some odd reason they love Calif)

Gee, thats nice. Naturally Los Angeles is the most wonderful place in the world.  cheeky 

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 26):
Hell, I wish there was a direct flight between Houston and Aussie, I'd gladly pay the premium to avoid that hellhole LAX .

As much as I love LAX, I concede it can be quite a pain for connections (fortunately, I never have to make them as I live in LA). I do think the best shot for a flight from Texas to Australia is going to be from DFW not IAH. QF would really like to serve DFW from SYD, I think they just need the aircraft for it.

I do wish the absolute best for Texas aviation and particularly DFW. Having spent half my life in Texas (spending a part of my childhood in Waco and going to college at TCU in Ft. Worth) I know it well. I do wish to see more international service from DFW. Maybe MAD or BRU would work since they have hubs for AA's partners. I would like to see some sort of "shot" at Australia from DFW by QF. Only time will tell.
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:10 pm

haha. Great idea for a thread...

Construction on SAT's new terminal started in the later part of last year. So far they've only been preparing the foundation, but construction will continue through 2007 into 2008. Should be nice, although it'll block one of the main spotting locations at SAT...  Sad But oh well, I'll be moving to AUS next summer!

Quoting ATCT (Thread starter):
Hook 'em Horns and dont mess with Texas!

Couldn't agree more... HOOK 'EM HORNS!

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:32 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 34):
I do think the best shot for a flight from Texas to Australia is going to be from DFW not IAH. QF would really like to serve DFW from SYD, I think they just need the aircraft for it.

Like the elusive EK flighs from IAH, that rumor has been floating around for many moons now. Not that it won't happen, it likely will. Actually, as IAHFLYR suggested, CO would probably be IAH's best shot at a non-stop or direct flight to Aussie once their 787s come online and should they look to expand to Australasia similar to what they had in the 70s and 80s. I even flew one of CO's DC-10 service from LAX to SYD in 1985.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 34):
Gee, thats nice. Naturally Los Angeles is the most wonderful place in the world. cheeky

I 've been visiting LA ever since I was kid growing up in Minnesota and for whatever reason I could never 'gel' with the place. My brother lives in Marina Del Rey and I usually make 3 trips out there a years. That said it took a few years to get used to Texas.

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:36 am

My personal hope is for mainline from CO on IAH-BNA as I'm in dental school out in Nashville so I make the trip regularly.

My pipedream for Houston is more domestic heavier metal like DFW. UA is will be putting the 757 back to IAH from DEN; I'd like to see HP/US bring the 757 back to PHX and expand on IAH-LAS, DL place a 767 or a 757 into IAH (yeah right) or use a 757 into HOU, AA use a 757/767 to MIA or DFW, ATA use a 757 to LGA and begin routes to DCA and MIA from HOU, and finally see CO use some widebodies to other stations once the 787s come online (767s to MCO, SFO, LAS, MSY, ORD, SEA, DEN etc.) of course seems like all pipedreams.
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:16 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 37):
My pipedream for Houston is more domestic heavier metal like DFW.

I agree.
I fly IAH SFO a lot and it would be nice to see a CO 757 on the SFO IAH portion.
 
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:12 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 38):
a CO 757 on the SFO IAH portion.

Sounds like a good idea to me. Doesnt sound too far fetched. I couldve sworn ive seen some flights to SFO with the 75.


Regadring AMA, nice artist renditions of the new terminal. For Podunk, USA it looks like a nice little terminal. (alot like MHT prior to the current expansion).
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting ATCT (Reply 39):
Podunk, USA

 praise   praise   praise 
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:22 am

Quoting ATCT (Reply 39):
Sounds like a good idea to me. Doesnt sound too far fetched. I couldve sworn ive seen some flights to SFO with the 75.

In the past 757 and 767 have run IAH-SFO.
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:16 am

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 29):
Anyone think AMA-IAH could go with 737s from CO?

Maybe as soon as CO substitutes 737's on the IAH-BNA, IAH-CLT and IAH-MTY routes, among others. Which I don't see happening anytime soon.
 
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:31 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 37):
My pipedream for Houston is more domestic heavier metal like DFW.

I'd like IAH to have more seats to go along with more flights, but with CO concentrating on international out of EWR, I think more lift out of IAH will take a back seat.

Frankly, I'm disapointed that IAH gets so little respect from its hometown airline. Despite all the extra flights to smaller cities, IAH is not being allowed to grow in a way that the city's economic growth would justify. I also have to admit that I'm disappointed at the parochial attitudes of some of CAL's investors, who seem to think Newark is the center of the universe and Houston and Cleveland are other cities that just happen to be on Continental's route system. I suspect all that O&D out of EWR makes a difference; CAL thinks there's more money to be made hauling O&D traffic nonstop than in funneling it through a hub airport that is half connecting traffic.

But if things change, IAH could rival DFW for the busiest airport in Texas; AA's not even convinced that there' a return on investment to be had from operating an airline, consequently they're not making any investments in it.
 
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RE: Howdy Ya'll! Republic Of Texas Aviation Thread 1!

Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:12 pm

CRP (CorpusChristi) being the short sighted city that it is. Had an offer by Sea World to build here in the late 80s early 90s. CRP said no, so they went to SAT. Now with that said CRP is still lacking service. Everything goes to IAH/HOU or DFW and 2 lowly ole flights to ATL on ASA. Heck! WN doesnt even have a nonstop to DAL, for crying out loud! There is a big debate here about the airfares being high, and people are driving to SAT just to get better airfares. WN, CO, and AAs, fares are pretty much the same Intrastate, but once you go beyond Texas. it skyrockets. However a 2 1/2 hr drive to SAT can bring you somewhere between $30 and $150 savings. I flew revenue my last trip from here to ABQ on WN, and it was costly. I would have saved $90 by driving to SAT and taking Trans-States, but they pulled out of the market.
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RE: Howdy Ya'll! Republic Of Texas Aviation Thread 1!

Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:11 pm

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 38):
fly IAH SFO a lot and it would be nice to see a CO 757 on the SFO IAH portion

I totally agree other than that 6PM departure from time to time you'll find....sure miss the B762 that used to make tha trip out from IAH around 9:30AM.

ATCT, nice thread fella, you're coming around nicely!!!!

Oh yeah, I want to see CO start IAH-MXP and also IAH-SMX.
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RE: Howdy Ya'll! Republic Of Texas Aviation Thread

Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:05 am

Quoting GoDIA (Reply 13):
Hey, my best friend is an Aggie!

I feel sorry for you.  duck  Big grin (Completely kidding, of course)

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 3):

I like the ending of your post! I've been saying it for almost a year, and those from the outside just don't understand the pride.

Amen.

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 41):

In the past 757 and 767 have run IAH-SFO.

I would love to have seen a 767 on IAH-SFO, I've taken that route very often in the past, and after a few trips all those 738s and 752s get a little tiresome.

Hook'em! and Don't Mess with Texas!  Smile
 
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RE: Howdy Ya'll! Republic Of Texas Aviation Thread 1!

Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:37 am

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 26):
I also lived there for a few years in the early 90s and frankly there is little interest in Texas amongst Aussies (for some odd reason they love Calif) .

The exception to the rule might be Queensland and more so the Brisbane metro....Studies I conducted about 10 years ago did show a *limited* exchange of people and investments. One fellow I met even went so far as to proclaim: "Brisbane is the Dallas of Australia!" When I asked him about the lack of ocean in Dallas, he just smiled and finished off his beer.

With that being said, the things that bind, are still relatively limited between Texas and Australia, the greatest chance someday would be for QANTAS to serve DFW just for the mass of connections possible.

Houston? Seeing how Continental thinks, it would Newark or nothing. At 8600nm (EWR-SYD), that might be too much for even the 787? But closer than LHR-SYD.
The Continental Houston hub would really have to grow to make any flights to Australia possible.
Los Angeles works not only because of the O/D, but also because of its position as 'doorway to nation'.....even if limited connections to the rest of the nation make for double and triple connects.

In a perfect world, QANTAS and American would code-share to SYD from DFW.
And Continental would go it alone from Houston....as a onestop from Newark.

Some Day.

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RE: Howdy Ya'll! Republic Of Texas Aviation Thread 1!

Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:43 am

In addition to the AUS-SEA direct, I'm hearing AUS-MIA direct is coming back.

I'm also hearing B6 direct flight to LGB.  airplane 

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RE: Howdy Ya'll! Republic Of Texas Aviation Thread 1!

Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:55 am

Why is SAT relatively static? The UA focus city experiment failed.
With the military and 4-5 Fortune 500 companies, I would expect
better service (JFK, SEA, BOS, MIA) , but Austin with its techno-status
is emerging the winner.

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