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Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:47 am

Several years ago, the Dallas Area Rapid Transit authority (DART) was seeking to expand commuter rail in North Dallas, including direct access to the Love Field passenger terminal. IIRC, these plans were canceled when federal funding collapsed and DART lacked the funds to tunnel under the airport themselves.

At the time, I thought DART planned to stop near Bachman Lake and opperate some sort of shuttle service to the airport. However, the latest DART expansion plans show a Love Field station opening in 2010. Has direct Love Field access been revisited?

 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:27 am

Last I heard, no direct train access, but they'll be building a stop at the location below and running some type of shuttle to the terminal. If it's changed from that, I haven't heard about it...

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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:43 am

They've been talking for years about putting DART rail service into DFW as well...still no concrete plans.

They run a shuttle from DFW to the Remote South Parking lot to the Trinity Rail Express...it's a huge hassle. I used it one day to/from work when DFW was iced in (kinda like today). Took me almost 3 hours to get home (a 15 minute drive on most days.).

I know the funding isn't exactly there, but you'd think they could come up with it somehow. The economic impact has huge potential.

Then again, DFW Parking revenues would drop...and that's just about all they have these days to make up for the debt they incurred with the "International" Terminal D.

In comparison to the mass transit systems in most major cities, DART just doesn't really cut it. Extremely inconvenient.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:47 am

Quoting JayDub (Reply 2):
They run a shuttle from DFW to the Remote South Parking lot to the Trinity Rail Express...it's a huge hassle.

Then again, DFW Parking revenues would drop...and that's just about all they have these days to make up for the debt they incurred with the "International" Terminal D.

There originally were plans to have rail service to DFW, but the taxi and off-airport parking companies successfully lobbied against it, with the shuttle bus becoming a compromise.
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 1):
Last I heard, no direct train access, but they'll be building a stop at the location below and running some type of shuttle to the terminal. If it's changed from that, I haven't heard about it...

I believe this is still the plan. The station will be on Denton Drive and a bus will take passengers to the terminal. You'd think they could at least build a pedestrian tunnel under the runway with moving sidewalks - the walk really wouldn't be that far!

Once again, an air-rail connection in the US is going to be completely botched. Almost every airport in Europe and Asia worth its salt has trains running directly into the terminal building. Here in the US we only have a handful - ORD, DCA, ATL, SFO and a few others. It's too bad, too - DART is already estimating that the Green Line will have enormous ridership, and being able to come right into the terminal building would be infinitely preferable to having to drag bags, children, etc. onto a shuttle bus.

If it's not convenient, people won't use it. Someday, maybe, mass-transit planners in the US will realize this.
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:40 am

Yes, it is both unfortunate and shortsighted.

I don't think it necessarily means that we will never see direct DART Rail service to either DAL or DFW. DART tore down the Park Lane station when the North Dallas expansion was complete to make way for the new elevated station. The remains of the abandoned can still be found. Likewise, whenever we get political leadership with a stronger will, perhaps the rail line to DAL/DFW can be "fixed."
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:52 am

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 4):
Here in the US we only have a handful - ORD, DCA, ATL, SFO and a few others.

PDX and MDW also come to mind. BUR actually has one, as the walk is so short and the airport is so outdoor in nature that it should qualify. MSP has one, though the Hiawatha Line really needs to expand from what it is now. Technically, JFK has one, but it isn't a one seat ride yet. IAD is getting one. There is no good reason why LGA doesn't have one, except for the all too powerful taxi lobby.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5):
Likewise, whenever we get political leadership with a stronger will, perhaps the rail line to DAL/DFW can be "fixed."

Unfortunately, your political leadership seems more pre-occupied with spending massive amounts on toll roads then handing them over to private companies to make money on.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:09 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):

Unfortunately, your political leadership seems more pre-occupied with spending massive amounts on toll roads then handing them over to private companies to make money on.

So very, very, very true....

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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:42 am

Quoting Minuteman (Reply 3):
There originally were plans to have rail service to DFW, but the taxi and off-airport parking companies successfully lobbied against it, with the shuttle bus becoming a compromise.

This may sound ridiculous...but why not privatize the parking lots of the rail stations? Let those parking companies run them.

As for the taxi companies...screw them. I'm a little bitter about the insane taxi fare I paid for a quick ride downtown from DFW once when I went home to visit.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:51 am

Wasn't a people-mover funded by a PFC connecting the DART station with the new/renovated terminal part of the WA agreement?
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:56 am

How old is that map? I ask because it seems strange that the northerly end of the line doesn't extend to the Bush. I would have thought that would be a logical end of the line with a huge Park and Ride.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:12 am

Quoting Legion242 (Reply 10):
How old is that map? I ask because it seems strange that the northerly end of the line doesn't extend to the Bush. I would have thought that would be a logical end of the line with a huge Park and Ride.

Both the Red and Green Lines will extend past the Bush, it's just a matter of the Bush not being drawn on the map. If you look at the Red Line, you can see the Bush Turnpike station that has been open for several years now. Both the Downtown Plano and Parker Road stations are north of the Bush.

If you look at the Green Line, the northern-most station is North Carrollton/Frankford. Since Frankford runs north of the Bush from Marsh Ln to I-35E, I assume the Green Line will cross under the Bush at some point.
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:16 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 11):
Both the Red and Green Lines will extend past the Bush, it's just a matter of the Bush not being drawn on the map. If you look at the Red Line, you can see the Bush Turnpike station that has been open for several years now. Both the Downtown Plano and Parker Road stations are north of the Bush.

If you look at the Green Line, the northern-most station is North Carrollton/Frankford. Since Frankford runs north of the Bush from Marsh Ln to I-35E, I assume the Green Line will cross under the Bush at some point.

Aw, I see now, my apologies for not looking closer.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:17 am

Quoting Justplanenutz (Reply 9):
Wasn't a people-mover funded by a PFC connecting the DART station with the new/renovated terminal part of the WA agreement?

When are we going to see the plans for the new updated terminal for DAL as part of the WA compromise?

Quoting JayDub (Reply 2):
They've been talking for years about putting DART rail service into DFW as well...still no concrete plans.

According to the DART website DFW is supposed to have Light-Rail access by 2013.

http://www.dart.org/about/expansion/orangeline.asp
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:22 am

It looks like they had planned on the Orange line serving Texas Stadium with two stations. I wonder if they will combine the UofD stop with the Loop 12 stop?

Also, was the proposed north East-West line to stop at DFW? If not, the orange line does little to offer service for the northern suburbs along 75.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:24 am

i cant wait until we open up the lines here at IAH/HOU..............my great-grandchildren will really benefit from this access!!!  yawn 
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:35 am

DART is taking over the rail line that runs right next to Denton Drive, so the station will be located on Denton. Not the absolute best location for a DAL station, but it is the cheapest, which is music to DART's ears. Honestly, I'm just glad that we finally committed to a light rail system, that it is functional, and that it actually does a decent job of covering large parts of Dallas County. Arlington never signed on to the agreement for DART rail and is the largest city in the nation without a public transit system (population apprx. 360,000), which screws over people who would like to take the train to the Ballpark, Six Flags, or the new Cowboys stadium.

We'll see what happens with DART rail and the airports in the future, but it will take a while to transform the track into the double tracks with all the other gadgets they need to make it work. Also possibly coming into play is the Texas High Speed Rail Corridor, running from Dallas to San Antonio, with a spur line from Killeen to Houston. The goal would be to feed the AUS and SAT traffic onto the rail line and send it to downtown Dallas and Houston. AA and CO are members of the committee pushing for this project. While high speed rail is needed in Texas, especially in the Texas Triangle, the current plan leaves much to be desired. If anyone is interested, here is the Texas High Speed Rail and Transportation Corporation website.

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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:37 am

Quoting Minuteman (Reply 3):
There originally were plans to have rail service to DFW, but the taxi and off-airport parking companies successfully lobbied against it, with the shuttle bus becoming a compromise.

Not true. The Orange Line is still planned to reach DFW, and should connect with the DFW SkyLink system.

Quoting Justplanenutz (Reply 9):
Wasn't a people-mover funded by a PFC connecting the DART station with the new/renovated terminal part of the WA agreement?

Yes. See http://www.setlovefree.com/pdf/agree_amendment.pdf Section 5.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:45 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 17):
Not true. The Orange Line is still planned to reach DFW, and should connect with the DFW SkyLink system.

Any idea how they plan to make that work? SkyLink is currently on the secured side only.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:01 am

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 4):
Once again, an air-rail connection in the US is going to be completely botched. Almost every airport in Europe and Asia worth its salt has trains running directly into the terminal building. Here in the US we only have a handful - ORD, DCA, ATL, SFO and a few others. It's too bad, too - DART is already estimating that the Green Line will have enormous ridership, and being able to come right into the terminal building would be infinitely preferable to having to drag bags, children, etc. onto a shuttle bus.

It is sad, especially when local governments will bow down to privately owned for-profit taxi companies rather than providing the public benefit they're being elected to provide.

Quoting JayDub (Reply 8):
As for the taxi companies...screw them. I'm a little bitter about the insane taxi fare I paid for a quick ride downtown from DFW once when I went home to visit.

Agreed. For-profit companies shouldn't dictate transportation decisions simply because it will hurt their revenues, despite the public interest to the contrary.
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:13 am

DFWrevolution,

I might be misreading your post but I don't think DART tore down the station at Park Lane. My wife and I rode the TRE to Union Station during the Christmas holidays, then caught Dart Light Rail to Park Lane to go shopping over at North Park.

Can you please explain what you mean by your comments that Dart tore down the Park Lane station ?? I'm confused.

CJPark, there isn't going to be a Master Plan drawn up for DAL. Not just yet if my sources are correct. Southwest is going to add about 40 more gates at Love Field from what I'm being told. Going to buy out the Signature Flight Services property, as well as the Gulfstream facility as well as the Associated Air Center facility. I think eventually WN will have about 400 flights a day in and out of DAL with probably N/S service to HNL, LGW, CDG and FRA.  Smile

LOL !!!  Smile
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:20 am

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 20):
I might be misreading your post but I don't think DART tore down the station at Park Lane. My wife and I rode the TRE to Union Station during the Christmas holidays, then caught Dart Light Rail to Park Lane to go shopping over at North Park.

Can you please explain what you mean by your comments that Dart tore down the Park Lane station ?? I'm confused.

The original Park Lane Station was on the south side of Park at street level. They tore that part down to make way for the elevated station. Park remains one of the busiest stations in the system, helped by a sizable population, having name recognition as the former northernmost station in the system, and being within a stone's throw of the largest mall in Texas (Northpark Mall). Hope that helps!

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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:34 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 21):
The original Park Lane Station was on the south side of Park at street level. They tore that part down to make way for the elevated station

 checkmark  The tracks and platforms of the abandoned station are still there
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:41 am

Quoting JayDub (Reply 18):
Any idea how they plan to make that work? SkyLink is currently on the secured side only.

 eyepopping Wow...hadn't thought of that. They'll have to get TSA involved and screen all the passengers and bags coming off of DART. What a mess!
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:46 am

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 20):
CJPark, there isn't going to be a Master Plan drawn up for DAL. Not just yet if my sources are correct. Southwest is going to add about 40 more gates at Love Field from what I'm being told. Going to buy out the Signature Flight Services property, as well as the Gulfstream facility as well as the Associated Air Center facility. I think eventually WN will have about 400 flights a day in and out of DAL with probably N/S service to HNL, LGW, CDG and FRA.

You're about 2-1/2 months early for April Fools Day...  Wink

Funny though....
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:55 am

OPNLguy,

I knew you would appreciate that !!  Smile

A guy can wish, can't he ???
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:01 am

Quoting Justplanenutz (Reply 9):
Wasn't a people-mover funded by a PFC connecting the DART station with the new/renovated terminal part of the WA agreement?

That makes good sense. Kind of funny considering that DAL had a rather inovative people mover at one time.

Quoting JayDub (Reply 8):
This may sound ridiculous...but why not privatize the parking lots of the rail stations? Let those parking companies run them.

What the hell for? Why give over city property for the profits of private companies. As a taxpayer, I would hope no FRA money would go to the building of such a thing. Ever.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
What the hell for? Why give over city property for the profits of private companies. As a taxpayer, I would hope no FRA money would go to the building of such a thing. Ever.



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 19):
It is sad, especially when local governments will bow down to privately owned for-profit taxi companies rather than providing the public benefit they're being elected to provide.



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 19):
Quoting JayDub (Reply 8):

Agreed. For-profit companies shouldn't dictate transportation decisions simply because it will hurt their revenues, despite the public interest to the contrary.

Gee, where was this indignation during the effort to repeal the Wright Amendment? We all know that our Governments stepped all over themselves to make sure that Southwest got its own airport with the compromise agreement so they would not have to compete with other airlines at DFW which undoubtedly would have hurt the airlines profits?

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 20):
CJPark, there isn't going to be a Master Plan drawn up for DAL. Not just yet if my sources are correct. Southwest is going to add about 40 more gates at Love Field from what I'm being told. Going to buy out the Signature Flight Services property, as well as the Gulfstream facility as well as the Associated Air Center facility. I think eventually WN will have about 400 flights a day in and out of DAL with probably N/S service to HNL, LGW, CDG and FRA

Why not they pretty much own the airport anyway?
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:45 am

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 27):
We all know that our Governments stepped all over themselves to make sure that Southwest got its own airport

Yeah, that's it right there...  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:47 am

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 27):
Gee, where was this indignation during the effort to repeal the Wright Amendment? We all know that our Governments stepped all over themselves to make sure that Southwest got its own airport with the compromise agreement so they would not have to compete with other airlines at DFW which undoubtedly would have hurt the airlines profits?

SeeJay:

When swabbing your ears, do you stop when you encounter resistance?

Do they breathe air on your planet?

Just wondering...
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:57 am

I still have no "earthly" ha ha ha !!! Idea why SeeJay hates WN so badly.

Did they not accept your resume or application for flight attendant school???
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:20 pm

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 4):
Here in the US we only have a handful - ORD, DCA, ATL, SFO and a few others.

MSP is pretty good...

Quoting Texan (Reply 16):
Also possibly coming into play is the Texas High Speed Rail Corridor, running from Dallas to San Antonio, with a spur line from Killeen to Houston. The goal would be to feed the AUS and SAT traffic onto the rail line and send it to downtown Dallas and Houston. AA and CO are members of the committee pushing for this project. While high speed rail is needed in Texas, especially in the Texas Triangle, the current plan leaves much to be desired. If anyone is interested, here is the Texas High Speed Rail and Transportation Corporation website.

I think that would take a lot of business away from CO, AA, and WN.
 
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:35 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Unfortunately, your political leadership seems more pre-occupied with spending massive amounts on toll roads then handing them over to private companies to make money on.

No kidding. We fought the good fight here in AUS and lost. Privately run toll roads are growing like weeds on the north part of our fair city. The eastern arm of the octopus will be an alternate to I-35 and will run from Georgetown to Seguin.

Maybe sometime soon WN will introduce AUS-SAT service so I can stay off the toll roads Big grin
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:45 pm

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 27):
Gee, where was this indignation during the effort to repeal the Wright Amendment? We all know that our Governments stepped all over themselves to make sure that Southwest got its own airport with the compromise agreement so they would not have to compete with other airlines at DFW which undoubtedly would have hurt the airlines profits?

WN doesn't own DAL, the city does.

Quoting Brons2 (Reply 32):
No kidding. We fought the good fight here in AUS and lost.

Hopefully your government will realize the error of their ways and at least take over the tolls like governments in California did.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:12 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):

Hopefully your government will realize the error of their ways and at least take over the tolls like governments in California did.

...it'd be nice, but I do not expect anything that rational from our state government. More's the pity.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:03 pm

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 29):
SeeJay:

When swabbing your ears, do you stop when you encounter resistance?

Do they breathe air on your planet?

Just wondering...

SC,

Do they value honesty and integrity on your planet?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):
WN doesn't own DAL, the does.

In name only, we have not had control over that airport since Southwest moved in.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:47 am

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 35):
SC,

Do they value honesty and integrity on your planet?

Ever and always, thanks.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 35):
In name only, we have not had control over that airport since Southwest moved in.

Oh get off it man. As if AA doesn't have the DFW people with a vice grip. Airlines all had the right to not sign the DFW agreement and stay at DAL. They chose not to, Southwest did. They exercised their rights under federal law to stay where they were.

Now, allow stop hijacking this thread or I will ask that it be locked.
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 37):
Oh get off it man. As if AA doesn't have the DFW people with a vice grip. Airlines all had the right to not sign the DFW agreement and stay at DAL. They chose not to, Southwest did. They exercised their rights under federal law to stay where they were.

Now, allow stop hijacking this thread or I will ask that it be locked.

If you do not want a reply do not answer posts.

If you want to cry wolf and request this thread be locked go for it.

AA does not have a legislated monopoly at DFW and the airline did not petition Congress for one either unlike Southwest at DAL. That by pointing out the correlation between what Southwest was able to pull off (which most of you supported) and the self interest of the taxi companies previously blocking rail access to the regions airports (which you are now condemning) bothers you. Tough!

Now back to the thread:

The only reason why DART/Dallas has to consider a people mover at DAL to connect the rail line is because of the Wright Compromise. As part of the compromise the City of Dallas and Southwest agreed to jointly finance the bonds required to build a new terminal why the City would also assume responsibility to build the people mover.

Does anybody have any information about schedule and design plans for the new Southwest Love Field airport terminal?
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RE: Status Of DAL Love Field And Dart Rail?

Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:33 am

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 38):
AA does not have a legislated monopoly at DFW and the airline did not petition Congress for one either unlike Southwest at DAL

Southwest doesn't either, and you know it. Jeez.
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