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Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:10 am

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=1/21/2007&id=17604

Mitchell Airport reopened at 12:07 p.m. today after a 35-minute closing caused when a Northwest Airlines plane had to abort a take-off and skidded off of the runway, officials said.

There were no serious injuries to the 100 or so people on board Flight 1726 bound for Detroit, said Pat Rowe, communications director for Mitchell International Airport. Rowe did not know the condition of the plane or the reason for the take-off to be aborted

 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:25 am

Planes abort take offs everyday...
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:30 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Planes abort take offs everyday...



Quoting Daus (Thread starter):
skidded off of the runway

Planes do not skid off runways every day.

The flight was 1726 as per the article and is now rescheduled to leave at 2:40 PM with a new aircraft according to NW.

[Edited 2007-01-21 20:39:34]
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:37 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 2):
Planes do not skid off runways every day.

Thank you... And they also don't close the airport for 30 minutes everday.  Smile

An Update:

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=1/21/2007&id=17606
Update: Plane had engine problem

Engine problems led pilots to abort a take-off today of a DC-9 from Mitchell International Airport, an airport official said.

Pat Rowe, communications director for the airport, said she did not know what type of engine problem caused the pilots to abort the take-off. Northwest Airlines spokeswoman Jennifer Bagdade said she could not comment on the cause.

Two buses took 99 passengers and their luggage back to the airport terminal early this afternoon. The airport reopened at 12:07 p.m. after a 35-minute closing caused by the accident, officials said.

There were no serious injuries to the passengers and crew aboard Flight 1726 bound for Detroit, Rowe said.

Northwest Airlines released a statement this afternoon on the incident that said:

"During its take-off roll, the crew of flight 1726, a DC-9 departing from Milwaukee to Detroit with 99 passengers and five crew, opted to discontinue its take off. The aircraft came to a stop off the runway surface.

"Passengers are being deplaned using stairs and are being bused back to the terminal. Passengers will be accommodated on the next available Northwest flight.

"Preliminary reports are that one passenger is complaining of a sore back. This passenger will be examined by medical personnel. No other injuries have been reported.

"Northwest apologizes for the inconvenience the delay of this flight has caused its passengers."

 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:12 am

Another DC-9 to be wfu ? The local news said that the plane wouldn't be removed until tomorrow. The runway is closed. It has been snowing today.
 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:19 am

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:22 am

A very snowy shot of the DC9 is up on this cam. (I think, it's real hard to see out there today)

http://www.todaystmj4.com/_content/weather/livecam_mitchell.asp
 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:34 am

That happened as I was walking into work. It's off next to the railroad tracks next to the 128th ANG base so 7R/25L will be closed for a few days I'm sure.

Quoting Daus (Reply 3):
Two buses took 99 passengers and their luggage back to the airport terminal early this afternoon.

Stupid sources....mmm..yes it was 2 buses but they had like 6 trips each cause the busses only hold about 10-15 people each. Also their bags were offloaded in normal fashion via belt loader and bag carts.
The snow is just nuts, it was coming down good when this event happened. The snow was on and off all day only really letting up for 10-15mins at crack. In almost a cerimonial fashion, the first airplane to land, after they opened 1R/19L to use for traffic, was a Northwest DC-9 painted in the new livery, the one that overran was painted in the old livery. Big grin I guess you could say, Out with the Old and In with the New.
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:53 am

That's the second NW plane that had problems this week. Yesterday a NW plane had to return back to DTW because it ran into a flock of birds on its way to DCA. But, good flying by both pilots of these planes with no one hurt.

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 7):
In almost a cerimonial fashion, the first airplane to land, after they opened 1R/19L to use for traffic, was a Northwest DC-9 painted in the new livery, the one that overran was painted in the old livery.

1R/19L for traffic?
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:20 pm

Quoting YX717fan (Reply 9):
1R/19L for traffic?

OOPSS..hehe you know what I mean. Big grin  Wink 1L/19R
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:50 pm

No surprise it skidded off the runway as the snow was really comin down around here. Here's a pic from the paper:



[Edited 2007-01-22 05:53:54]
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:37 pm

Well, hopefully all's okay with the bird ... looking at that pic, it's sitting upright, on all three gear ... hopefully all that's wrong is it's stuck (and now frozen) in the mud.

I know Patroni likes Boeing products ... but MD is now Boeing, so maybe he can come help ...

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:41 pm

Whiteout. Happens all the time.

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:26 pm

Well according to German Spiegel Online the incident happened in the "US state of Denver". ... Seriously, do they let their janitors write the articles or what???  Yeah sure

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:56 pm

When will NW retire their DC9s?  Big grin

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:28 am

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 15):

Probably in the next 10-15yrs. But can the emb-190s take that kind of abuse. Big grin
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:10 am

Besides moving the plane, does anything else have to be fixed (lights etc) before the runway is reopened? Also did the runway have the arresting concrete at the end?
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:04 pm

Quoting YX717fan (Reply 17):
Besides moving the plane, does anything else have to be fixed (lights etc) before the runway is reopened? Also did the runway have the arresting concrete at the end?

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the lighting was damaged. Theres no concrete at MKE to stop planes from overshooting. Here's a new story from the Journal Sentinel about those saftey walls and if they should be put in at MKE. Also another pic showing how close the plane was to the nearest railroad tracks.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=555543

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:15 pm

I like that picture above....is that a baggage tug with a plow on it (left side)?
 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting LUVRSW (Reply 19):
is that a baggage tug with a plow on it (left side)?

Yes...there were 3 other bag carts too. If you read the article in the JS, they said the first emergency responders got stuck in the snow and the pax started laughing..hhehe..guess those fire trucks aren't all terrain.
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:42 am

compressor stall on take-off roll. thats what happened.
 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:50 am

how serious is that? Could that have brought it down? Could it take off with one engine? Did they hit the brakes after VR?
 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:51 am

Quoting LUVRSW (Reply 22):
Could it take off with one engine?

Well losing an engine on a twin engine airplane almost always has up to 80% performance decrease. Twin engine airplanes are certified for flight on one engine provided that they are past their rotation speed, the climb will totally suck but it'll keep them in the air. The crew did the right thing and kept it on the ground instead of trying to be tough guys, however the engine broke before V1 (take-off decision speed) so they had to stop. Off the end of the runway is always better than trying to push a crippled airplane into the sky, look at NTSB reports about airplanes trying to stop after Vr or trying to take-off after a failure before V1. It always ends in a mess, this is where training pays off.
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:04 pm

Apparently Fox 6 is reporting another inciedent at MKE involving two aircraft near the runway?!
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:23 pm

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 24):
Apparently Fox 6 is reporting another inciedent at MKE involving two aircraft near the runway?!

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/5349861.html

Accident at Mitchell Airport
TMJ4 Staff
MILWAUKEE - Two small cargo planes collided and caught fire on a runway or taxiway at Mitchell International Airport tonight.

The accident happened near the Air Cargo Terminal at the southeast side of Mitchell International Airport.

Smoke and some flames were visible as firefighters quickly extinguished the fire.

The airport was shutdown for a time, but at least one runway has now reopened.

The planes belong to Freight Runner Express. One is a Cessna 402 the other is a Beachcraft 999.

http://www.freightrunners.com/aircraft.htm



 
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:30 pm

Naa, not freight runners  Yeah sure






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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:57 pm

Quoting Daus (Reply 25):
Beachcraft 999

Flip that vertical and you'd have a very appropriate thing for Freight Runners. Just goes to show you what kind of company they are, bunch of cowboy pilots. I'm not really surprised at all.
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:03 am

Have they opened up rwys 7/25 yet?

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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting Daus (Reply 3):
Preliminary reports are that one passenger is complaining of a sore back. This passenger will be examined by medical personnel. No other injuries have been reported

Whiplash. Law suit in the making. Why oh why
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 29):
Law suit in the making. Why oh why

NWA has the best witness, the Captain, "Had we tried to take-off, the airplane most likely would have stalled or hit the railroad tracks, but then we would've all been dead."
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:55 am

Quoting BREmer (Reply 14):
Well according to German Spiegel Online the incident happened in the "US state of Denver". ... Seriously, do they let their janitors write the articles or what??? Yeah sure

Dear God. Do German journalists not have access to maps... or the internet? Clearly have no direct source for the story... I mean, that's like me opening my paper to read about a LH jet having an incident at the MUC airport, in the German state of Kiel.

Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 16):
Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 15):

Probably in the next 10-15yrs. But can the emb-190s take that kind of abuse. Big grin

In all honesty, I think the EMB-195s are a mistake. NW should have bought 717s when they could, or something likewise sturdy.... the EMB-190 is great an all, but those DC-9s are bulletproof... and for an airline running out of MSP and DTW, you need tough aircraft.

Quoting Fdxgirl (Reply 21):
compressor stall on take-off roll. thats what happened.

Good 'ol JT9D's!

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 30):
Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 29):
Law suit in the making. Why oh why

NWA has the best witness, the Captain, "Had we tried to take-off, the airplane most likely would have stalled or hit the railroad tracks, but then we would've all been dead."

No kidding. Good luck on that frivolous law suit. Be happy you aren't dead. Flying isn't always safe, just like driving or walking. Sometimes stuff beyond your control happens, and you have to live with it. NW doesn't appear to have in any way failed to meet its obligation for care here.
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RE: Flight Aborted; Airport (MKE) Closed Briefly

Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:18 am

You can't keep a good NWA DC-9 down for long....  Smile

Plane that ran off runway returns to skies
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=1/29/2007&id=18051

MONDAY, Jan. 29, 2007, 4:13 p.m.
By Larry Sandler

Plane that ran off runway returns to skies
The airliner that ran off a runway at Mitchell International Airport is already flying again, but the two cargo aircraft that collided on Mitchell's taxiways aren't likely to join it in the skies any time soon, if ever.

In the first of two ground incidents at the airport last week, a Northwest Airlines DC-9 skidded off the end of a runway Jan. 21, after an engine malfunction led the crew to abort the takeoff. One passenger reported back pain after the incident.

The jet "has been thoroughly inspected and has returned to service," Northwest spokesman Roman Blahoski said today. He declined to release a damage estimate, saying the airline was "moving on" from the incident.