speedbird747BA
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Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:36 am

Just like the title

The choices are:

CO
DL
NW
AA (American Eagle)

Thinking of booking a flight and would like to know.

Much thanks and Cheers,
Kyle
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pkbhx
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:38 am

Personally i would go CO , Love them , but that is purely a personal thing.

Really dont have a clue about the maintainence records

Enjoy!

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speedbird747BA
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:02 am

Thanks Pkbhx.

I was thinking maybe CO?

Also Ill include FL in the choices as well.


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Kyle
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:36 am

Go with DL or CO or even AA there the best
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:42 am

NW...look at their DC9s, many are in great condition despite their age.
 
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:05 pm

What I'm kinda wondering is, what does their maintenance record have to do with the price of tea in China? Airlines' safety doesn't rest solely in the hands of good maintenance. Weather, pilot error, ATC error, and terrorism seem to be the main culprits in most (recent) incidents/accidents in any of those airlines' history - if, at all, those airlines did suffer any incidents.

What I'd be concerned about when faced with a choice of those airlines would be: reliability, service standard, convenience, pricing, equipment used (if you're a big plane nut and price is no issue!), etc. Not that maintenance shouldn't be considered at all, but to base your travel plans upon their maintenance record (considering they're all probably very good) would just lead you to a dead end - with the same four choices.
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:06 pm

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 2):
Go with DL or CO or even AA there the best



Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 4):
NW...look at their DC9s, many are in great condition despite their age.

Ok Thanks for the recomendations. But there is a little bit of a discrepancy there. Oh well, thx anyways.


Cheers,
Kyle
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:10 pm

Quoting NASBWI (Reply 5):
What I'm kinda wondering is, what does their maintenance record have to do with the price of tea in China? Airlines' safety doesn't rest solely in the hands of good maintenance. Weather, pilot error, ATC error, and terrorism seem to be the main culprits in most (recent) incidents/accidents in any of those airlines' history - if, at all, those airlines did suffer any incidents.

What I'd be concerned about when faced with a choice of those airlines would be: reliability, service standard, convenience, pricing, equipment used (if you're a big plane nut and price is no issue!), etc. Not that maintenance shouldn't be considered at all, but to base your travel plans upon their maintenance record (considering they're all probably very good) would just lead you to a dead end - with the same four choices.

I do agree with you to an extent NASBWI, however, many aircraft incidents are related to maintenance, or lack thereof, and that is one controllable factor. Pilots fluctuate and change, service will not always be the best, reliability wont come into play much here, however convenience and pricing do. Thanks for a good post.

Cheers,
Kyle

PS -- I wish I was rich so I could choose flts from equipment.  Sad
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:23 pm

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 7):
many aircraft incidents are related to maintenance, or lack thereof, and that is one controllable factor.

I can't argue that. However, your original question pertained to four specific airlines: DL, CO, NW, and AA (and their regional counterparts). Looking back on all four of their track records (with regard to safety), I can recall a few incidents:

NW - Recently, a DC-9 suffered a hydraulic failure (I think) upon landing, and was unable to stop before colliding with a parked A319. The A319 survived, along with both aircraft's occupants. The DC-9, sadly, was written off. In the late 80s (I think it was 1987), an MD-80 was lost on takeoff due to an incorrect flap setting. Also, there was a runway collision between a DC-9 and a 727 in DTW (can't remember when, but I saw photos of it). More recently, a CRJ of Pinnacle was lost on a ferry flight when the pilots accidentally stalled the engines and subsequently lost control of the plane. Maintenance played a role in one of those accidents.

AA - besides 9/11, an A300 was lost due to excessive force on the rudder, causing the tail to separate inflight. I believe AA and Airbus are still at odds over who's to blame; An MD-80 overran a runway in LIT during bad weather; A 757 was lost in 1995 in Colombia when the aircraft struck a mountain during its final approach; An ATR-72 was lost in 1994 due to icing while in a holding pattern (and another one was written off in SJU a couple years ago after a rough landing in strong crosswinds - no loss of life). So far, maintenance hasn't played a part in any of those incidents.

CO - recently, a pilot accidentally landed a 757 on a taxiway at EWR. Hardly a maintenance issue  wink . Besides that, the last major incident I remember about CO happened in the 60s, I think - and I think it involved a DC-9 and a Cessna. Or was it a 720? (Cue in backup from aviation historians!) Either way, maintenance did not play a role in the accident.

DL - Comair had a couple of crashes. One was pilot/ATC error, and the other was due to icing. ASA lost a Brasilia in 1995 (now *that* was a maintenance issue - the propellor separated from the engine). Delta mainline suffered an L1011 loss after flying through a microburst (back in 1986, I believe), and a couple years after that, a 727 was lost on takeoff due to an incorrect flap setting. Both of those accidents happened at DFW, and neither was related to maintenance (or a lack thereof).

That's all I can recall for now. If anyone can remember anything else (relatively recent) about these four airlines, please pitch in  smile . Point is, when it comes to AA, CO, DL, or NW, I really don't see much of a difference when it comes to maintenance and/or safety.

Now, I've never flown on CO or NW, so I can't tell you anything about what to expect inflight. But having flown on AA and DL many times, I can say that I'm probably more partial to AA. But the segments I flew were relatively short, and the service was essentially the same. Internationally, I've heard DL has totally revamped their product, but I couldn't tell ya. Hope that helps a little bit.
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RE: Which Of These Has The Best Maintenance Record?

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:08 am

Working in aviation maintenance, I would say all of the airlines you have listed run decent maintenance operations with the exception of Northwest. I had an opportunity to see the NW DC-9 that went off the runway at MKE over the weekend due to a fuel control unit failure on takeoff and found that the aircraft was in very poor condition and exhibited a significant amount of structural repairs to the fuselage. Even one of their own mechanics made some off color comments about the maintenance practices on the DC-9. The aircraft I make reference to is N918RW which is 39 years old originally delivered to Eastern Airlines in Jan 1967.

Personally, AA sets the standard for maintenance in the airline industry. Many airlines go to them to get maintenance done based on their superior reputation. DL & CO are good too.
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