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Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:11 pm

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=7687

Which makes it really interesting now....Air France invites Indian Airlines to Skyteam....so what about the Air India-Indian merger and the alliance thing...
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:46 pm

Wouldn't Air France be much better of by inviting Malaysia Airlines into Skyteam and thereby plugging on obvious gap in the Skyteam network? Also, why is Air France doing the inviting? Is AF the absolute ruler of Skyteam?
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:22 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
Also, why is Air France doing the inviting? Is AF the absolute ruler of Skyteam

I'm guessing it's just a case of one of the members being the "active proposer" for a candidate airline?

Conspiracy theory #1 - Big grin Since IC is all airbus, that's why AF chose to invite IC to Skyteam Big grin --end conspiracy theory #1  Wink

Leaving that aside, it's interesting to note the complete radio silence on the part of LH/*A/AI about *A inviting AI/IC to join *A. According the Mr. Thulasidas (head of AI), they were supposed to make the announcement last December.
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:23 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
Wouldn't Air France be much better of by inviting Malaysia Airlines into Skyteam

This is something I'm actually wondering for a long time. SkyTeam presence in Asia is rather limited. No offense to KE but ICN is a bit far from South-East Asia to compete with SQ, CX, TG and the likes.

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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:08 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
Wouldn't Air France be much better of by inviting Malaysia Airlines into Skyteam

I've wondered myself the same thing many times.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
Also, why is Air France doing the inviting? Is AF the absolute ruler of Skyteam?

I think it is more than obvious: it's very obvious AF is the "big boss" in Skyteam. The MH staff went to Paris to have talks about the issue of join SkyTeam.

Quoting JumboForever (Reply 3):
SkyTeam presence in Asia is rather limited

No just in Asia but also in the Southern Hemisphere.
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:12 am

AFAIR, AF has had some issues with MH in the past. MH would make a wonderful addition to Skyteam and its lack of coverage in Asia.
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:50 am

...but MH continues without join SkyTeam. Why??

It looks like AF are not agree with MH being a SkyTeam member. And I think it is a big mistake.
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:59 am

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 4):
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1): Also, why is Air France doing the inviting? Is AF the absolute ruler of Skyteam?
I think it is more than obvious: it's very obvious AF is the "big boss" in Skyteam. The MH staff went to Paris to have talks about the issue of join SkyTeam.

Its been pretty obvious that AF continues to block MAS' entry into Skyteam.

Despite a success in talks between KLM and MAS who agreed to work to expand their code-share and add additional flights between AMS and KUL to strengthen the bridge between their hubs - AF ploughed on with talks with QF on code-sharing into Australia almost immediately after the KL-MH agreement.

I am also surprised that Jet Airways was not invited instead given its cooperation with KLM in the past. Also note that Jet has recently announced an expansion into Malaysia and both Jet and MAS have hinted at possible code-sharing on routes.

I guess both MAS and Jet are feeling somewhat snubbed by AF's proposal.
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:08 pm

NW is in Skyteam and has a "tiny little presence" in Asia.
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:07 pm

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 8):
NW is in Skyteam and has a "tiny little presence" in Asia.

Not all Asian travelers o/d in NRT.
And not all Asian travelers want to go HKG-NRT-BKK. Sky needs at least one airline in India and one in S.E. Asia.
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:25 pm

I believe it was mentioned before that one reason AF didn't include MH was the cheap fares that MH is offering. And until to date MH is still selling really cheap fares in conjuction with Visit Malaysia Year 2007. And why would AF take MH when they can code share with QF...Australian national carrier to Australia rather than through MH? KE is doing a good job in connecting to asia cities through ICN. Can someone tell me who has a bigger network in Asia? MH or KE?
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:06 pm

WHAT???!!!  Wow!

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
Wouldn't Air France be much better of by inviting Malaysia Airlines into Skyteam and thereby plugging on obvious gap in the Skyteam network? Also, why is Air France doing the inviting? Is AF the absolute ruler of Skyteam?



Quoting JumboForever (Reply 3):
This is something I'm actually wondering for a long time. SkyTeam presence in Asia is rather limited. No offense to KE but ICN is a bit far from South-East Asia to compete with SQ, CX, TG and the likes.



Quoting SKY1 (Reply 4):
I've wondered myself the same thing many times.



Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 5):
AF has had some issues with MH in the past. MH would make a wonderful addition to Skyteam and its lack of coverage in Asia.



Quoting SKY1 (Reply 6):
...but MH continues without join SkyTeam. Why??

It looks like AF are not agree with MH being a SkyTeam member. And I think it is a big mistake.



Quoting MAS777 (Reply 7):
Its been pretty obvious that AF continues to block MAS' entry into Skyteam.

My national carrier was being sabotaged!!!  Angry

What are you talking about CHANGYOU?  Confused
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:53 am

I think AF smells some sweet profit potential. IC flies to many places within India that maybe aren't viable to get to from CDG, and India is an ever-expanding, fairly large market. It's win-win for both, I would think. Good to see SkyTeam getting larger. Now if only they could get someone in Australia/NZ to join...  scratchchin 
 
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:57 am

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 12):
Now if only they could get someone in Australia/NZ to join...

The perfect network at that point.....
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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:27 am

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 8):
NW is in Skyteam and has a "tiny little presence" in Asia.

NRT makes little sense for Europe-Southeast Asia transit.

In addition, NW isn't structured to handle inter-SEA traffic at all, for example, TPE-SIN.

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RE: Air France Invites Indian Airlines To Skyteam

Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:06 am

NRT makes a reasonable connection point on travel between Europe and New Zealand though.
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