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Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:34 pm

Daily Kansas City-Sea Tac service on 717
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070123/cgtu025a.html?.v=1
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:41 pm

I didn't expect that. I wonder why they are flying MCI-SEA. They will be competing against WN that already operates the route. I can't imagine it being that big of a market, but obviously Midwest goes for the top end while Southwest goes for the low end.

Also no word on if this is seasonal or not. Leisure wise, SEA is pretty seasonal with a huge summer cruise boat season.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:56 pm

I would of thought they would be using the newly aquired MD-80's on this route instead of the 717. I was also thinking MKE rather than MCI, but all in all, good news from YX.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:58 pm

Good deal! Vanguard had very good loads on SEA-MCI and from what I heard at the time, even the yield was good. But kind of a stretch for the 717, isn't it..?
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:22 pm

Midwest already competes with Southwest from Kansas City nonstop to Orlando, Los Angeles, Tampa and San Diego, and now Seattle will be added to that list. Plus they compete indirectly to SFO versus OAK.

I suspect that we'll see nonstop M80 MKE-SEA run seasonally from late spring into early fall, and that MCI-SEA will be year-round. Kind of like how they are doing SFO. They may not be ready to talk about MKE-SEA if the M80's are not far enough along for a firm service-entry date.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:38 pm

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 3):
But kind of a stretch for the 717, isn't it..?

Well it can really only do 3.5 hours max in a typical F/Y configuration. Perhaps the YX birds can go a little farther since they only hold 80ish.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:42 pm

I'd also guess that MCI-SEA is a bigger market than MKE-SEA O & D wise (didn't check, just guessing).
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:44 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
Perhaps the YX birds can go a little farther since they only hold 80ish.

Considering the distance of 1489 miles is about 50 more than what Boeing lists the max range of the 717 at, they better hope so. Or people better get used to visiting Idaho.  Smile
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:45 pm

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 4):
I suspect that we'll see nonstop M80 MKE-SEA

I think you are right
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:45 pm

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 6):
I'd also guess that MCI-SEA is a bigger market than MKE-SEA O & D wise (didn't check, just guessing

That's true, but it's arguably due to the presence of WN on the route in MCI.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:59 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 9):
Quoting PVD757 (Reply 6):
I'd also guess that MCI-SEA is a bigger market than MKE-SEA O & D wise (didn't check, just guessing

That's true, but it's arguably due to the presence of WN on the route in MCI.

Here are the average daily one-way passegners between both Kansas City and Milwaukee and Seattle for the last four quarters ended 6/30/06:

Kansas City
Q1 153
Q2 213
Q3 238
Q4 179


Milwaukee
Q1 58
Q2 108
Q3 117
Q4 81

For what it's worth, MKE-SEA's biggest carrier is Northwest, with 50% market share. On MCI-SEA it is Southwest (the only nonstop carrier) and their market share varies from about 35-45%. From season to season they carry about 75-80 local passengers each day, and in summer when the market is largest they have a smaller overall market share.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:17 am

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 2):
I was also thinking MKE rather than MCI, but all in all, good news from YX.

Makes for a better connection to ATL  duck 

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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:21 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 11):

Oh goodness, I can't figure out what it is about potential mergers that gets A.netters all fired up!


When YX released that statement a while back which talked about the new MD-80s and CRJs I believe it said something about "a couple" or "a few" new routes. MCI-SEA and MKE-SEA would obviously be two different routes so I'd imagine they'll introduce service to Seattle from Milwaukee in due time.

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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:24 am

Quoting AviationAddict (Reply 12):
Oh goodness, I can't figure out what it is about potential mergers that gets A.netters all fired up!

Me neither, hence my smartass remark  Smile
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:09 am

You guys can probably look to see some of the MKE-PHL service downgraded to CRJs cause they're never that full. It's a shame YX didn't get funds to get more 717s.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:11 am

Makes a nice alternative to the forthcoming ATL-SEA on FL.......
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:13 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
They will be competing against WN that already operates the route.

They don't compete with Southwest. They have a completely different product.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:16 am

Vanguard's best connection city from SEA was ATL. As a matter of fact, there were consistently more ATL-pax than all other connection cities combined. One would hope Midwest will add an MCI-ATL that will tie in with the SEA flights.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:12 am

Maybe in a couple of months they could upgrade the MCI-SEA from a 717 to a 737! Maybe they could even add some XM radio!

We shall see soon enough!
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 18):
Maybe in a couple of months they could upgrade the MCI-SEA from a 717 to a 737

Why go on a 737, when you can go on a 717, with leather recliners, Best Care Cuisine, baked on board Chocolate Chip Cookies, Digi Players, head/foot rests, and best of all, only 87 other passengers! Who needs XM radio, with more and more people bringing their iPod's on board?
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:23 am

COOL! I think this will be the first 717 SEA has ever seen.  bigthumbsup 

Any word on which Concourse they'll be using? B is my best guess, as there is plenty of room over there with DL's move to the A Concourse.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:49 am

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 20):
Any word on which Concourse they'll be using? B is my best guess, as there is plenty of room over there with DL's move to the A Concourse.

I would guess they would use the gates of whomever does their handling in SEA since they'll only have a single flight. I'll make a stab in the dark and guess that DL would do the handling, so in that case they would use Concourse A.

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 16):
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
They will be competing against WN that already operates the route.

They don't compete with Southwest. They have a completely different product.

True, but people in SEA have never heard of Midwest Airlines before, so the public might be less informed about the great service and choose the lower fare if they want a nonstop flight.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 4):
Midwest already competes with Southwest from Kansas City nonstop to Orlando, Los Angeles, Tampa and San Diego, and now Seattle will be added to that list. Plus they compete indirectly to SFO versus OAK.

The competition may be tight, but there is quite a bit of demand by business travelers who want a higher end product. Good move for YX!
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:57 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 21):
True, but people in SEA have never heard of Midwest Airlines before, so the public might be less informed about the great service and choose the lower fare if they want a nonstop flight.

A valid point. Many have stated that this was the reason that MKE-HOU existed but for just a few months.

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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:00 am

Why does everyone think that all pax into SEA in the summer are cruise pax? Granted there are a few, but most boats to Alaska leave from Vancouver (ok, a few take the bus up, but if you can afford a cruise, you can afford to fly into YVR). SEA sees more tourists in the summer, but not all are cruise pax. Some are tempted to group SEA with FLL and MIA for cruse pax. This is not true. Please stop labeling SEA as a cruse destination for the summer months. Just like SFO and PDX see more traffic in the summer, these are clearly not cruse destinations.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:01 am

Quoting Mikey711MN (Reply 23):
Many have stated that this was the reason that MKE-HOU existed but for just a few months.

Poor marketing exacerbated by the Hurricane season. That's more or less what killed MKE-HOU

Good luck on the SEA route though. It'll be a stretch for the 717, but hopefully it'll work out!
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:46 am

Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 14):
It's a shame YX didn't get funds to get more 717s.

Boeing no longer makes the 717, and airlines that are getting rid of them are selling them to FL, who probably pays well for them.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Thread starter):
Kansas City-Sea Tac service on 717

It would be nice to see a 717 in SEA!

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 20):
COOL! I think this will be the first 717 SEA has ever seen.

{Checkmark} I second that!!

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 26):
Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 14):
It's a shame YX didn't get funds to get more 717s.

Boeing no longer makes the 717, and airlines that are getting rid of them are selling them to FL, who probably pays well for them.

I think he already knew that, AirTranTUS.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:13 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 21):
I would guess they would use the gates of whomever does their handling in SEA since they'll only have a single flight. I'll make a stab in the dark and guess that DL would do the handling, so in that case they would use Concourse A.

 checkmark  If I'm not mistaken, nobody in B ground handles anyone else. And aren't all the (domestic) shared gates over in A now?
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:23 am

Let's see, Midwest said 6+ new destinations?

2 down (DLH and SEA).. 4+ more to go..

Midwest said 12 new routes..

I think this makes 2 (DLH-MKE, SEA-MCI).. 10 more to go.. or do these not count since they are new destinations?

Any other guests as to what the other destinations/routes would be?

The Skywest RJ are to begin arriving in April.. I'm assuming since new service on RJ has not been announced yet and it's normal to give at least 3 months leeway, they will begin on existing routes first?
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:36 am

Rumors are EWR and MSP initaly.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:17 am

Quoting Mason (Reply 24):
Why does everyone think that all pax into SEA in the summer are cruise pax? Granted there are a few, but most boats to Alaska leave from Vancouver (ok, a few take the bus up, but if you can afford a cruise, you can afford to fly into YVR). SEA sees more tourists in the summer, but not all are cruise pax. Some are tempted to group SEA with FLL and MIA for cruse pax. This is not true. Please stop labeling SEA as a cruse destination for the summer months. Just like SFO and PDX see more traffic in the summer, these are clearly not cruse destinations.

I know it isn't everyone, but still is a significant difference. SEA is a big tourist town in the summer, but it can also be tied in to cruise traffic. In the last 5 years Seattle has recieved many more cruise ships. I'm not sure how many will be based this summer, but I believe there were roughly six 2000 passenger ships last year, so that's a few extra thousand people on Fridays through Sundays. Seattle has no where near the number of cruises that Ft. Lauderdale has, but it is noticeable.

My point was SEA is seasonal. It always has been. Capacity definitely increases in the summer and fares increase drastically. I typically pay $300 to get to Seattle in the winter, but have to pay $500 in the summer.

But with YX going for a higher yielding crowd, they might be in a better position to make the route work year round. SEA has many companies and reason for business travelers to fly and that demand is always there.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:51 am

What about MCI-MSP? I stumbled across a few YX schedules last year with it on it, but it never came to be.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:30 pm

Too bad they didn't do MKE-SEA, SEA-MCI-MKE.
I think it would be a better utilization of an aircraft,
do a circle trip so both cities would have a nonstop
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:11 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 33):
Too bad they didn't do MKE-SEA, SEA-MCI-MKE.
I think it would be a better utilization of an aircraft,
do a circle trip so both cities would have a nonstop
in one direction.

They currently cannot do SEA-MKE as it is simply out-of-range for the 717 or the current MD-80s. Once they get the two new MD-88s online, then we may see MKE-SEA added.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:22 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 21):
True, but people in SEA have never heard of Midwest Airlines before, so the public might be less informed about the great service and choose the lower fare if they want a nonstop flight.

This is probably a route where a somewhat tighter connection with NW could be exploited. For an outstation, SEA does have a fair number of NW loyalists (it's one of a handful cities where you can see 2 NW 330s on the ground at the same time; you can't even do that in MEM), and it's not really a route on which they'd compete (where MKE-SEA would be as MSP is a better connecting point).
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:25 pm

Quoting JBo (Reply 34):
They currently cannot do SEA-MKE as it is simply out-of-range for the 717 or the current MD-80s. Once they get the two new MD-88s online, then we may see MKE-SEA added.

MKE to SEA - 1472nm

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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:30 pm

FINALLY! I've been waiting to see the 717 at SEA since it took to the air. Nice additions to the non-stop resumes of both airports too.

*Edit*
Reading the story helps. I thought the n/s was SEA-MKE. Nevermind!

[Edited 2007-01-24 07:37:19]
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:05 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 26):
Boeing no longer makes the 717, and airlines that are getting rid of them are selling them to FL, who probably pays well for them.



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 27):
I think he already knew that, AirTranTUS.

Thanks AirframeAS for saying it for me. Seeing as how YX has like the 2nd to last 717 produced, but thanks for responding.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:20 pm

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 28):
If I'm not mistaken, nobody in B ground handles anyone else. And aren't all the (domestic) shared gates over in A now?

Continental, Hawaiian and Jetblue all contract out their ramp services. Most of the available shared gates are in the South Sattelite, as the other common use gates have preferential use agreements.

Off the top of my head, the remaining Port of Seattle controled (eg common use eligable) gates are:
A5 (preferential use by F9)
A10 (preferential use by DL)
B5 (currently used by B6 and HA)
B7 (currently used by HA at least for overnights)
C12 (preferential use by AS)
C14 (preferential use by AS)
N9 (preferential use by UA)
S3, S4, S5, S10, S11, S12 and S15 which are shared amongst the international carriers. Some of the smaller gates, such as S4 and S5 are mainly used for overnight parking for Delta, American and occasionally USAirways and Continental.

In theory any of the Port of Seattle gates can be used by any airline, although the preferentual use gates pretty much never see use by other carriers unless they are under contract for ground handling services, such as FL also using A5 as Frontier does their ground handling.

Quoting JBo (Reply 34):
They currently cannot do SEA-MKE as it is simply out-of-range for the 717 or the current MD-80s. Once they get the two new MD-88s online, then we may see MKE-SEA added.

MKE-SFO is about 130nm longer than MKE-SEA, and MKE-LAX is about 50nm longer, so why couldn't they fly to MKE-SEA with their current MD-80s? I can understand why the 717s would be flown from MCI, as that is shorter by just less than 200nm, but I know MD-82s can make it STL-SEA with a 30min hold in winter, a route pretty much equal to MKE-SEA.

[Edited 2007-01-24 11:29:44]
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting Asqx (Reply 39):
Quoting JBo (Reply 34):
They currently cannot do SEA-MKE as it is simply out-of-range for the 717 or the current MD-80s. Once they get the two new MD-88s online, then we may see MKE-SEA added.

MKE-SFO is about 130nm longer than MKE-SEA, and MKE-LAX is about 50nm longer, so why couldn't they fly to MKE-SEA with their current MD-80s? I can understand why the 717s would be flown from MCI, as that is shorter by just less than 200nm, but I know MD-82s can make it STL-SEA with a 30min hold in winter, a route pretty much equal to MKE-SEA.

I think the key is that Midwest doesn't have *enough* M80 to fly MKE-SEA and that it is out of range for the 717.

--Their two M88's which are best suited for the long haul west coast can do MKE-SEA just fine, but they are needed on the regularly-full flghts to LAX/LAS/PHX and in summer SFO nonstops.

--The rest of their Saver M80's which can make MKE-LAX (although they always use M88 if possible on those 1700-1850 mile trips to the west cost) are also fully scheduled in markets with heavy loads for the next several months.

--The few other M80's they still have (all of which are currently configured in 74-seat charter operation or 116-seat Signature seating) can't do MKE-west coast with anywhere near a full load of 147 passengers -- the Saver configuration. They are backups and charter aircraft and don't have the ability to do MKE-SEA in normal Saver configuration.

If they chose to dump some of their other Saver flying like MKE-LAS they could squeeze in a MKE-SEA nonstop with their existing fleet. But that's not gonig to happen because those existing Saver markets are very hevily traveled and they keep the competition at bay in Milwaukee.

Today's story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel goes so far as to say that Midwest would serve MKE-SEA nonstop if they had additional aircraft capable of doing it.

"The airline would also like to provide non-stop service between its principal hub in Milwaukee and Seattle, but it does not have enough planes capable of flying that far, said Carol Skornicka, senior vice president of corporate affairs."

Well it just so happes that they are getting two more capable M80's next quarter. Sounds like a "draw your own conclusions" opportunity to me.
 
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:07 am

Quoting JBo (Reply 34):
They currently cannot do SEA-MKE as it is simply out-of-range for the 717 or the current MD-80s.

I disagree with you. AS has done the SEA-Toronto in the late 80's/early 90's with the M82/83 without any problems.
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RE: Midwest Officially Announces Sea-Tac

Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:47 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 41):
I disagree with you. AS has done the SEA-Toronto in the late 80's/early 90's with the M82/83 without any problems.

See Knope's post previous to yours. Midwest only has 2 -88's and 3 -82's which are already spoken for on other routes. The -81's will not make it. That is why 2 more -88's are coming. They would have to drop flights elsewhere right now to make MKE-SEA work.

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